Spurs under Pochettino

[GetSpurredOn]

Lloris, Friedel, (Archer)
Walker, Naughton/Frederiks
New LB, Ekotto/Rose
Chiriches, Kaboul
Vertonghen, New CB
Sandro, Capoue
Paulinho, Dembele
Eriksen, Holtby, Carroll
Lamela, Townsend/Lennon
Chadli, Townsend/New LF
Ade/Soldado/New CF, Kane.

Lescott and Cole on free, home grown, experienced defenders, step up from Dawson and Rose.
Konoplyanka for LW
Lukaku/Bony type CF

With Dawson, one of Rose/Ekotto, Sigurdsson, Livermore, potentially Lennon, one of Ade/Soldado shipped out, that should mean a minimal spend (FFP at work), but general upgrade.

Minimal changes after last years upheaval. Get them done early, give Pochettino as much of the summer as possible.

 

[CRUSADER]

Fitness is key issue as Pochettino plays with solid physical players.

 

[SpurSince57]

Paulinho plays the role i've put him in well for Brazil, with Gustavo the more defensive minded player alongside him. So it's not exactly a defensive role, but a box-to-box role that starts further back.

I also find it difficult putting Dembele into the first team squad with his injury issues, he'll end up spending half his time on the bench instead.

IMO we need a consistent first team that are all injury free as much as possible. Lamela being the obvious one in there that seems to suffer from regular injury.

Do you realise that Sandro has played a little over 4000 minutes in the league over the past three seasons? That equates to just 15 full games a season. Dembélé has averaged 26.

Not that there aren't issues with Dembélé. When he first arrived people were asking, 'How long can we hang on to him?'; now it's getting to be, 'Who can we get to take him off our our hands?' Okay, that's an exaggeration, but since that hip injury he's never really reproduced that early form. (And didn't someone say that Chadli's replaced him in the Belgian side?)

 

[brasil_spur]

Do you realise that Sandro has played a little over 4000 minutes in the league over the past three seasons? That equates to just 15 full games a season. Dembélé has averaged 26.

Not that there aren't issues with Dembélé. When he first arrived people were asking, 'How long can we hang on to him?'; now it's getting to be, 'Who can we get to take him off our our hands?' Okay, that's an exaggeration, but since that hip injury he's never really reproduced that early form. (And didn't someone say that Chadli's replaced him in the Belgian side?)

Sandro spent a fair chunk of last season sidelined through selection rather than injury though.

 

[SpurSince57]

Sandro spent a fair chunk of last season sidelined through selection rather than injury though.

Even so, he managed the equivalent of just under 20 league games in 2012-13 (22 actual appearances) and 16 games in 2011-12 (23 actual appearances), and does seem to be more injury-prone than most.

 

[The Apprentice]

I would take any team that doesn't include Danny Rose.

 

[Syn_13]

Fitness is key issue as Pochettino plays with solid physical players.

So if Huddlestone hadn't have left last summer, he'd definitely leave this one.

Then again, he is a solid player. Solid as a Yorkie bar.

 

[Japhet]

If he wants to play 4-2-3-1 I'd go for

Lloris

Walker Kaboul Vertonghen New LB

Paulinho Capoue

Lamela Eriksen Chadli

Soldado

 

[spurs9]

I put the below in the Poch Confirmed thread, but it is probably a better fit here:


Just looking at our squad and how it might fit in to how Poch had Southampton playing and the first thing that is obvious is how much we need to trim the squad, especially if we want to promote youngsters.

First of all though, the Europe league. Poch didn't have to cope with this extra competition and has been quoted that he thinks it is a waste of time, but it is an extra CL place this year. Also, with the size of out squad (even with a huge trim) there is no reason why we can't play a completely different team in the group stages. Outside of the group stages, there are a total of 9 extra games to deal with if we make the final (this season we only had 4).

Southampton usually play 4-2-3-1.

Strikers - Ade probably fits the best to play as Lambert did, but I think teams would be set up differently Vs us and we will face more "parked busses" than Southampton did, so I think movement & intelligence are just as important. I think we will be fine with Ade (though rumors are he will leave), Soldado & Kane.

Midfield & wide players - Southampton had 4 players that played several positions in most matches in the 3 behind the striker. Rodriquez played LW & SC, Lallana played RW, LW & AMC, Davis played AMC, CM& RW, and Ware-Prowse played RW, CM and on the very odd occasion LW.

In the 2 CM positions, he usually had 2 of Cork, Schneiderlin & Wanyama (with Davis also playing there on occasion). These are 2 defensive CM players but, I think we would benefit from having one DM and one CM who could, though isn't defensive, could help out with closing down etc.

I think there are 4 players that stand out as not a great fit straight away.

Lennon - won't take his man on anymore, low intelligence in finals 1/3 and poor end product. I think we will try and sell him.
Townsend - Likes to run from deep rather than off the shoulder and lack of scoring ability means he is no good for the Rodriguez role. Lack of intelligence & end product mean he is not a good choice for the other 2 roles either.
Siggy - I'm probably being harsh on siggy (with the size of our squad I think we have to be), but I just don't think he has enough creativity & guile about him to fit any of the 3 behind the striker.
Dembele - Poch like to play with high tempo passing and for me, he holds onto the ball for too long. Maybe it can be trained out of him (and if it can, he could turn into a great player under Poch).

For the AMC and wide play maker role (Davis, Lallana & Ward-Prowse) we have Eriksen, Lamela, Chadli & Holby. I think this is enough considering we have Pritchard & Ceballos waiting in the wings.

I don't think we have an ideal player for the Rodriquez role, I think Lamela & Chadli could do a good job there, but we need an option with pace. We have been linked with Batshuayi, is he a similar type of player to Rodrigiez? If so, he could be an ideal signing.

For the DMC we have Sandro & Capoue, so we are spoilt for choice there and we have Veljkovic coming through the ranks.

For CM, I think Paulinho could do a job here, he has shown for Brazil that he can aid his defensive partner and he also makes runs forwards creating space and getting into good positions. I really think Poch will turn him into the player we know he can be. If Poch can teach Dembele to not keep hold of the ball so ofthen and play quick passes, he would be amazing here. We also have Holtby who can play here and Carroll & Bentelab to share some game time.


Defense & GK - I have board myself now and can't even be bothered to do defense (which we all needs upgrading) and GK (which is more than fine), so I will just say, we need to buy a 1st choice LB, CB and if Rose isn't happy being back up, a home grown sub LB too.

To Summarise I think our squad should be:

Ade, Soldado & Kane
New Wing Fwd,Chadli, Eriksen, Holtby, Lamela, Pritchard & Ceballos
Sandro, Capoue, Paulinho, Maybe Dembele, Carroll, Bentaleb & Veljkovic
New LB, Rose or new back up HG LB, Fryers
Walker, Naughton, Fredericks
Verts, New CB, Kaboul, Chiriches & Dawson
Lloris Freidel & Archer

Non HG players - 17 (assuming all new comers aren't HG)
HG Players - 7
U21 Players -6

So we would have enough space in the squad for 1 more HG player over 21.

Buy -
Wing Fwd (Batshuayi, does Kono score enough?)
LB (Rodriquez?)
CB (Schar, Lovren?)
Maybe a back up HG LB (Davies?)

Sell -
Siggy
Livermore
Falque
Lennon
Townsend
BAE
Khumalo

 

[Strikeb4ck]

I think if Soldado stays he will have a fantastic year, the sort of attacking play Pochettino likes to setup is what suits Bobby. Furthermore his excellent touch, technique, and vision will be a huge bonus in setting up the other attackers.

 

[SteveH]

Think we just might be getting ahead of ourselves here.

May I tactfully suggest we just let Poch get into the job first.

This thread will end in tears.

 

[danielneeds]

Lloris
Walker Schaar Vertonghen Cole
Capoue
Paulinho Eriksen
Lamela Batshuayi Rodriguez​

 

[cockerel downunder]

I think Livermore could have a future under poch. High energy midfielders are important to his system and he likes to improve young English players.

 

[Little-B]

I don't post much but Capoue will be favoured over Sandro. Capoue is the more complete DM, he has a decent range of passing and can also break up play. Sandro is just a demolishen man with limited passing ability more suited to a sub role when we're trying to hold onto a lead.

 

[SpurSince57]

I don't post much but Capoue will be favoured over Sandro. Capoue is the more complete DM, he has a decent range of passing and can also break up play. Sandro is just a demolishen man with limited passing ability more suited to a sub role when we're trying to hold onto a lead.

Now you've done it…

 

[Little-B]

Now you've done it…

I do love Sandro but the team comes first

 

[Huddlebone]

I think we need to let some of the rotation players leave this window and try to imrove with 2 or 3 players that will have an impact and not meant to fill out the squad. I also think that soldado with Poch style can get more out of his game than the time with AVB, when there was a more controlled style with not that meany "chance" passes behind the opponents back four. So this would be my full Squad for next season, u dont have to agree. But i think for now there are some players in our squad that are overrated, and are not thought true when they where bought.

First to the players that i dont see have a future here. when i think they dont really belong in a team that trying to get into the top4 spot.

so Out:
Adebayor: Have been good for us this year, But i dont see a future for ade here. I rather see Lukaku or Jay Rodriguez.
Rose: Well... Not much to say. gave him a chance this year, But he is obvious not good enough.

Townsend: Same as Rose. But i see that andros would be good at for example QPR next season. But not near spurs standard.

Kaboul: Have been up and down for kabom. And with all the injuries he have had during the years i think they have taken the best of him.

Chadli: Our squad have in the attacking center so much players and i see Chadli as the one that dont really fit into the quick attacking style that we are going to play this year.

Paulinho: well. It is really not a clear call to sell him. But i think as the same with Chadli, Paulinho dont have the tempo in his game to play in PL. If he would have played in Italy or Spain I think he would have dominated at a whole different level.

BAE: Like harry said. 2 years back he was top tree leftbacks in PL. But then he found the bigMAC

Livermore: I dont see how jake dont end up at Hull next season. A perfect fit for him. Same as townsend, it takes so much more to play at spurs than for Hull or QPR.

Then what players i see that we need and would like to have in.

IN:
Lukaku: with his power and talent i could see him doing wonders. Just hard to see Chelsea let him leave to us...

Lovren: toptop class defender. The most important signing in my book, because as starting player daws and vlad are not good enough.

Konoplyanka: well to describe him. RobbenJR with him and Lamela it is a big change to this season with Chadli--Lennon

Schneiderlin: good passer and a hard worker. He is like gareth Barry, u dont see him that much. but that dont mean he dont make difference. I see him also a bit as Matic in Chelsea, Can both take care ot the passing but have that defensive side aswell.

LB: I am not really sure in this position. For sure i would like Luke Shawalker but dont see it coming. I think he will join the dark-side at Man utd

So the squad would i line up like this for the following season:

------------Lukaku-----------
------------Soldado-----------
Konoplynka----------Lamela----
Sigurdsson------------Lennon-----
-------------Eriksen--------------
--------------Holtby---------------
-----Dembele----Schneiderlin------
-----sandro--------Capoue/Carrol---
NEW--Vertonghen-Lovren-Walker-
Fryers---Vlad---Dawson---:Naughton
-------------Lloris----------------
-------------Brad--------------------

 

[13VanDerBale13]

Konoplyanka, Eriksen & Lamela in the same team would just be so damn sexy!

 

[Snarfalicious]

I really believe Lovren will be coming to us given the amount of improvement he made in just one season under Pochettino. Lovren's star was fading fast in his last season and a half at Lyon but he was pretty darn good last year. Surprising given he came to a league that is far superior (in my opinion) to Ligue 1. Bringing Lovren to partner Vertonghen would be incredibly smart.

The next problem then becomes LB. Personally, I loathe Ashley Cole but the fact is the guys we probably want (Coentrao, Shaw, Alex Sandro or Ricardo Rodriguez) aren't realistic for us. If Cole will come to us, we can at least rid ourselves of the derptastic tendencies of Danny Rose.

I'm of the mind that our midfield is solid if we can bring Carroll back into the fold. Poch has shown he can utilize a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 so having 5 available midfielders (Sandro, Capoue, Dembele, Paulinho and Carroll) would be smart given how many competitions we will want to compete in. I also tend to think it's a solid mixture of talent that could potentially use a terrier type (Jordy Clasie would be sublime) that can keep the tempo moving.

In attack LW should be looked at. I personally love Kono but could see it being a younger player that will grow into a role (Imoh Ezekiel, Memphis Depay, Jean-Paul Boetius could be smart purchases with rather huge upside and could be relatively cheap).

As for striker, I'm good with selling Adebayor. I appreciate what he did, but I don't think I'd trust him over a whole season and I could see him responding to Poch's training style similar to how Pablo Osvaldo did. Michy Batshuayi is my mancrush and I'd love to see him here. I don't think Lukaku is reasonable.

Possible XI:
-------------------- Lloris ---------------------
Walker ---- Lovren ----- Vertonghen ----Cole
---------- Paulinho ------- Sandro ------------
-- Lamela --------- Eriksen ----------- Chadli
--------------------Soldado-------------------

Backup XI:

------------------- New GK -------------------
Naughton --- Kaboul --- Chiriches ---- Fryers
---------- Clasie ---------- Capoue ------------
-- Townsend ----- Holtby ------------ Depay
------------------ Batshuayi ------------------

 

[KingNothing]

I think we need to let some of the rotation players leave this window and try to imrove with 2 or 3 players that will have an impact and not meant to fill out the squad. I also think that soldado with Poch style can get more out of his game than the time with AVB, when there was a more controlled style with not that meany "chance" passes behind the opponents back four. So this would be my full Squad for next season, u dont have to agree. But i think for now there are some players in our squad that are overrated, and are not thought true when they where bought.

First to the players that i dont see have a future here. when i think they dont really belong in a team that trying to get into the top4 spot.

so Out:
Adebayor: Have been good for us this year, But i dont see a future for ade here. I rather see Lukaku or Jay Rodriguez.
Rose: Well... Not much to say. gave him a chance this year, But he is obvious not good enough.

Townsend: Same as Rose. But i see that andros would be good at for example QPR next season. But not near spurs standard.

Kaboul: Have been up and down for kabom. And with all the injuries he have had during the years i think they have taken the best of him.

Chadli: Our squad have in the attacking center so much players and i see Chadli as the one that dont really fit into the quick attacking style that we are going to play this year.

Paulinho: well. It is really not a clear call to sell him. But i think as the same with Chadli, Paulinho dont have the tempo in his game to play in PL. If he would have played in Italy or Spain I think he would have dominated at a whole different level.

BAE: Like harry said. 2 years back he was top tree leftbacks in PL. But then he found the bigMAC

Livermore: I dont see how jake dont end up at Hull next season. A perfect fit for him. Same as townsend, it takes so much more to play at spurs than for Hull or QPR.

Then what players i see that we need and would like to have in.

IN:
Lukaku: with his power and talent i could see him doing wonders. Just hard to see Chelsea let him leave to us...

Lovren: toptop class defender. The most important signing in my book, because as starting player daws and vlad are not good enough.

Konoplyanka: well to describe him. RobbenJR with him and Lamela it is a big change to this season with Chadli--Lennon

Schneiderlin: good passer and a hard worker. He is like gareth Barry, u dont see him that much. but that dont mean he dont make difference. I see him also a bit as Matic in Chelsea, Can both take care ot the passing but have that defensive side aswell.

LB: I am not really sure in this position. For sure i would like Luke Shawalker but dont see it coming. I think he will join the dark-side at Man utd

So the squad would i line up like this for the following season:

------------Lukaku-----------
------------Soldado-----------
Konoplynka----------Lamela----
Sigurdsson------------Lennon-----
-------------Eriksen--------------
--------------Holtby---------------
-----Dembele----Schneiderlin------
-----sandro--------Capoue/Carrol---
NEW--Vertonghen-Lovren-Walker-
Fryers---Vlad---Dawson---:Naughton
-------------Lloris----------------
-------------Brad--------------------

Interesting that you would keep Lennon and Sigurdsson ahead of Chadli. Lennon can't cross and he certainly can't shoot. Sigurdsson is easily knocked off the ball and does not setup his teammates like Eriksen and Holtby do, he does have a decent shot on him though. Chadli has all the attributes to be successful. He's tall, strong, good in the air, decent pace, goal threat and he can cross.
Though i like the idea of Konoplyanka, i would rather let go of Sig and Lennon