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Spurs finances report 22/23 (swissramble writeup)

JUSTINSIGNAL

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It shows how bad we've been at selling players.
Chelsea seemed to have a conveyor belt of youngsters they sold every season.

We can improve but Chelsea's selling has only been good mainly because they did some dodgy deals with their saudi investors to get rid of their deadwood. Man City are able to sell players at their peak and replace with similar quality because of their success in recent seasons

The rest of the league have struggled to sell players the same as us. Mainly due to the disparity of prem league wages in comparison with the rest of europe. And the mid-lower half prem teams that we used to sell our deadwood to are a lot smarter with their scouting and recruitment so are now targeting some of the best young talents in the world rather than waste money on our cast offs.

Arsenal, Man Utd, West Ham etc... are all similarly struggling to shift players like us. In fact Arsenal recently paid off Nicholas Pepe to leave the club and at 72m he was, until they signed Declan Rice, a club record signing.
 

Frozen_Waffles

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It shows how bad we've been at selling players.
Chelsea seemed to have a conveyor belt of youngsters they sold every season.
This is mainly due to Chelsea and City having an excellent academy. If there was one area of the club that needs to improve its this.

If everyone is fit then I don't see any homegrown (from the academy) players in the squad. Which is very poor. Currently Skipp (not playing) and Scarlett who is only on the bench due to a Richarlison injury and the Veliz loan are the closest.

It's not a case of players not being given the chance as well, the truth is that we don't have players on par with Colwell, Palmer, Maatsen, Lewis etc..
 

Westmorlandspur

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That was according to the UEFA calculation methods.

As for him being a Gooner... nobody's perfect, but I have never seen him skew an analysis of any club's finances in order to put the Woolwich outfit in a better light...
Just joking. Yes he’s very good. Pity he wants us to pay now.
 

Westmorlandspur

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Swiss Ramble correctly identifies it at 46%?

Are you referring to the squad cost ratio of 60% for UEFA rules? If so, then that includes player amortisation and impairment costs as well as wages.
If the uefa ffp eventually goes to 70% , on those calculations quite a few clubs are going to struggle. We are about the best run club and we are on 60%.
 

Yid-ol

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We can improve but Chelsea's selling has only been good mainly because they did some dodgy deals with their saudi investors to get rid of their deadwood. Man City are able to sell players at their peak and replace with similar quality because of their success in recent seasons

Mendy and Koulibaly was about 40 million for both?
Last season it was more Arsenal and United that funded them. Over 70 million for Havertz and 60 odd for Mount?
 

SpursSince1980

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So… I’m dyslexic and math is kryptonite to me. So, uh… are we in a good, neutral, or bad financial position according to all that?
 

SirHarryHotspur

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So… I’m dyslexic and math is kryptonite to me. So, uh… are we in a good, neutral, or bad financial position according to all that?
Well we owe a lot of money but we have a crown jewel of a money earning stadium and Ange has no intention of buying any £100 million footballers to dent the bank balance, so everything is looking good.
 

alfie103

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Well we owe a lot of money but we have a crown jewel of a money earning stadium and Ange has no intention of buying any £100 million footballers to dent the bank balance, so everything is looking good.

So we are good financially as long as we don't spend huge amounts on players? So much for the stadium being a game changer.
 

Cochraam

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Thank you for posting and very interesting. I do find it odd that clubs don't have to report a PSR calculation as part of their financial reporting (or at least I'm not aware of that). Of course, it's reported to the Premier League (or the PL calculates it), but everything public is informed speculation to an extent - people like Swiss Ramble combing through published finances and trying to recreate the calculations. It means there is always a bit of mystery around charges and the actual wiggle room clubs have. Would be nice to have that information reported in a simple sheet along with other published finances.
 

SirHarryHotspur

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So we are good financially as long as we don't spend huge amounts on players? So much for the stadium being a game changer.
Just don't think the Ange will be looking at £100 million rated players , all Ange's signings so far are at the lower end of the cost and age scale apart from Vic 27 (bargain), Maddison 27 (bargain) and Timo 28 who was essential to fill in while Sonny was away.

Daniel Levy, Chairman: “Ange brings a positive mentality and a fast, attacking style of play. He has a strong track record of developing players and an understanding of the importance of the link from the academy - everything that is important to our Club. We are excited to have Ange join us as we prepare for the season ahead."
 

alfie103

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Just don't think the Ange will be looking at £100 million rated players , all Ange's signings so far are at the lower end of the cost and age scale apart from Vic 27 (bargain), Maddison 27 (bargain) and Timo 28 who was essential to fill in while Sonny was away.

Daniel Levy, Chairman: “Ange brings a positive mentality and a fast, attacking style of play. He has a strong track record of developing players and an understanding of the importance of the link from the academy - everything that is important to our Club. We are excited to have Ange join us as we prepare for the season ahead."

Maybe that is part of the reason he was brought in, he is happy to work with players who don't cost as much.
 

Misfit

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Why spend £80m on Tapsobas when there are Micky Van de Ven's out there for £40m?
 

Trix

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Maybe that is part of the reason he was brought in, he is happy to work with players who don't cost as much.
That's again not what he is saying. It's about quality not financial cost and the two don't always equate as we all should be very aware of by now. Ange clearly understands this and it's why he keeps saying he doesn't care about the financials the CL bring in. It's not going to define his team.
 

SirHarryHotspur

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So we could afford to buy £100 million players if we wanted to and the reason we don't is because Ange doesn't want to?
Yes , we could easily take Antony of Manure's hands for 95 million euros, sure they would like their money back that they paid Ajax but I am not sure if Ange would want him :)
 
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