Soldado, Eriksen & Lamela Have Yet to Start 1 Game Together

[Mr Pink]

I doubt Levy would, and by all accounts Sherwood and Levy are close. Levy doesn't want to be known as the guy who blew £100m (and it WILL be him that is ultimately accountable), so I'm sure he'll put pressure on Sherwood to give them opportunities to justify the spending.

Not just to justify, but to protect the value of his assets as well.

 

[RButch]

Lamela had found it difficult adjusting to England, but I am pretty sure that it has been 100x harder adjusting without being able to do his job and play matches without this he has little confidence, little belief and no connection to the fans. If he is allow a run of 6,7,8 games to allow him to start influencing games and to raise his confidence, I can see only positives.

If he does start on Sunday I hope that the crowd chant him name constantly and help raise his confidence.

Without a doubt, there are 8 players that when fit have to start no matter what. They are; Lloris, Vertonghen, Sandro, Eriksen, Lamela, Walker, Rose and Soldado.

 

[Flashspur]

Yes it will be interesting wether Tim has been told that he has to use the vast array of talent at his disposal....but seriously you have to laugh at Lamela, Eriksen and Soldado not starting together

 

[Bus-Conductor]

That would be a bit extreme.

They're also Levy's signings after all and Eriksen was thought to be a Sherwood choice too.

I can't see how Sherwood benefits in any way from players failing, especially when their value (a big factor for Levy) is intrinsically linked to how well they are performing.

Is it too much to think that the employees of the club might want to perform well in their work?

It's not Sherwood's money. I reckon if he could win games - ergo keeping his job - and making Baldini look bad - thus removing a DOF he has already criticised (calling him an idiot I believe) and sits above him/on par in the hierarchy - It would be fortuitous for him.

Do you really think Sherwood wants Baldini at the club ?

 

[jonathanhotspur]

It's not Sherwood's money. I reckon if he could win games - ergo keeping his job - and making Baldini look bad - thus removing a DOF he has already criticised (calling him an idiot I believe) and sits above him/on par in the hierarchy - It would be fortuitous for him.

Do you really think Sherwood wants Baldini at the club ?

What's all this about Sherwood not liking Baldini?

 

[Lifeson]

If only AVB wasn't so stubbord he could have just looked over at Moyes and Januzaj, or Martinez with Barkley or Deulofeu. If only we'd have gotten one of them, eh? What could have been.. (not saying I'm massive fan of Moyes or anything, just an example).

 

[Gedson100]

It's not Sherwood's money. I reckon if he could win games - ergo keeping his job - and making Baldini look bad - thus removing a DOF he has already criticised (calling him an idiot I believe) and sits above him/on par in the hierarchy - It would be fortuitous for him.

Do you really think Sherwood wants Baldini at the club ?

Why not?

Why do people think that Sherwood is set on world domination?
If I am Tim Sherwood and I've got a chance of coaching this team long term, i'd actually like a guy with great contacts and a history of digging up gems doing my transfer work.
Plus they all answer to Levy and Lewis anyway.

Whether or not it's Sherwood's money is moot. We already know that Levy was concerned that the club's top earner wasn't playing any games under Andre, and Sherwood is likely to be in the job short term if he thinks he can let tens of millions of talent depreciate in the reserves.

I think there's a pervasive presumption that Sherwood is sneaky, but why that translates into hoodwinking Levy, I do not know. The Levy I see is pretty shrewd.

I don't know anything about this 'idiot' comment you refer to.

 

[PrettyColors]

It's not Sherwood's money. I reckon if he could win games - ergo keeping his job - and making Baldini look bad - thus removing a DOF he has already criticised (calling him an idiot I believe) and sits above him/on par in the hierarchy - It would be fortuitous for him.

Do you really think Sherwood wants Baldini at the club ?

This post (not you, BC, don't worry) makes me absolutely infuriated.

Has the infighting and club politics behind the scenes truly gotten this bad? Are the giant egos really using our on-field performance as a pawn for their vision for us as a club?

Nearly everyone can see that Eriksen and Lamela are our two most technically talented players, and as a team lacking in creativity and needing a "breath of fresh air" if you will, the need to introduce them into the team is nearly unequivocal. We lack a "je ne sais quoi," and I think our "quoi" lies in Spanish or Danish, or, like the small community of Copenhagen natives living in Madrid speak, SpaDanish.

Seriously, though, how can the higher-ups use onfield performance to prove a point? Are the fans paying exorbitant fees and spending time on a fucking chess match?

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Why not?

Why do people think that Sherwood is set on world domination?
If I am Tim Sherwood and I've got a chance of coaching this team long term, i'd actually like a guy with great contacts and a history of digging up gems doing my transfer work.
Plus they all answer to Levy and Lewis anyway.

Whether or not it's Sherwood's money is moot. We already know that Levy was concerned that the club's top earner wasn't playing any games under Andre, and Sherwood is likely to be in the job short term if he thinks he can let tens of millions of talent depreciate in the reserves.

I think there's a pervasive presumption that Sherwood is sneaky, but why that translates into hoodwinking Levy, I do not know. The Levy I see is pretty shrewd.

I don't know anything about this 'idiot' comment you refer to.

It was actually "Baldini doesn't have a clue" and was made by JJ.

It's not about world domination, it's about survival. Before Baldini came along Sherwood's position would have been stronger with Levy wouldn't it ? At the very least it has been diluted by Baldini's arrival. We also had ITK saying they were whispering different targets in Levy's ear. So effectively they are competing for who can be the cleverest dickie. Why do you think managers like Redknapp refused to work under a DOF if it;s so great having a guy around with a great contact book.

Someone else making decisions above your head, you don't make them work you get the sack. Someone else showing he's more useful than you are, if your not pushing him out the door, he's pushing you out sooner or later. Survival.

 

[highscore]

The 'Winner' rating I gave the OP's post has never more appropriate.

 

[Gedson100]

There was quite a bit in the summer (mostly from



It was actually "Baldini doesn't have a clue" and was made by JJ.

It's not about world domination, it's about survival. Before Baldini came along Sherwood's position would have been stronger with Levy wouldn't it ? At the very least it has been diluted by Baldini's arrival. We also had ITK saying they were whispering different targets in Levy's ear. So effectively they are competing for who can be the cleverest dickie. Why do you think managers like Redknapp refused to work under a DOF if it;s so great having a guy around with a great contact book.

Someone else making decisions above your head, you don't make them work you get the sack. Someone else showing he's more useful than you are, if your not pushing him out the door, he's pushing you out sooner or later. Survival.

That ^ is opinion that can be easily discredited by facts & I don't know how it ties to Sherwood.

Sherwood's remit has been very different to Baldini's. I really don't see how they compete.
Baldini, as far as I can tell has worked on transfers; indeed, has he done anything else??
Meanwhile Sherwood has been involved in overseeing the youth teams.

Sherwood now steps into caretaker coach, it's not as if Baldini was ever gonna do that.

I just feel the modern game has more people refined to specific jobs that used to fall under the manager's remit hence Andre: Head Coach, Baldini: Transfers, Sherwood: Youth/ the new Pleat.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

That ^ is opinion that can be easily discredited by facts & I don't know how it ties to Sherwood.

Sherwood's remit has been very different to Baldini's. I really don't see how they compete.
Baldini, as far as I can tell has worked on transfers; indeed, has he done anything else??
Meanwhile Sherwood has been involved in overseeing the youth teams.

Sherwood now steps into caretaker coach, it's not as if Baldini was ever gonna do that.

I just feel the modern game has more people refined to specific jobs that used to fall under the manager's remit hence Andre: Head Coach, Baldini: Transfers, Sherwood: Youth/ the new Pleat.

I don't think Sherwood's position has been that simple for quite a while. Various ITK (LLM and JJ) have alluded to his relationship with Levy. Sherwood was/is definitely on the player choosing committee.

To think that there is no power game or personality clashes in football would be as naive as thinking Sherwood's been hatching some kind of machavelian plot.

Managers bring in their own people for these reasons.

 

[SpursManChris]

none of them played in a huge cup tie we had to win in front of our home fans.

Well Eriksen was injured, no?

 

[Bus-Conductor]

That ^ is opinion that can be easily discredited by facts & I don't know how it ties to Sherwood.

Sherwood's remit has been very different to Baldini's. I really don't see how they compete.
Baldini, as far as I can tell has worked on transfers; indeed, has he done anything else??
Meanwhile Sherwood has been involved in overseeing the youth teams.

Sherwood now steps into caretaker coach, it's not as if Baldini was ever gonna do that.

I just feel the modern game has more people refined to specific jobs that used to fall under the manager's remit hence Andre: Head Coach, Baldini: Transfers, Sherwood: Youth/ the new Pleat.

Let me just add, that I don't have much of an opinion of Baldini either way as yet. So far I haven't been blown away by his work, and I don't see why you need a DOF to spend 30m on a 21 yo or 26m on Soldado.

The point of a good DOF for me is to use knowledge and contacts to find value.

So maybe even if Sherwood does think Baldini is a prick, he could well be right for all I know.

 

[ItsBoris]

Imo we were probably resting them for the Southampton game.

I'd be surprised actually if Lamela, Eriksen, and Soldado don't start against Southampton.

Ha! I knew this post would get "Optimistic" ratings. You are all dancing on my puppet strings!

 

[TH1239]

Well Eriksen was injured, no?

Eriksen was available, but was an unused substitute.

 

[TH1239]

It was actually "Baldini doesn't have a clue" and was made by JJ.

It's not about world domination, it's about survival. Before Baldini came along Sherwood's position would have been stronger with Levy wouldn't it ? At the very least it has been diluted by Baldini's arrival. We also had ITK saying they were whispering different targets in Levy's ear. So effectively they are competing for who can be the cleverest dickie. Why do you think managers like Redknapp refused to work under a DOF if it;s so great having a guy around with a great contact book.

Someone else making decisions above your head, you don't make them work you get the sack. Someone else showing he's more useful than you are, if your not pushing him out the door, he's pushing you out sooner or later. Survival.

I actually think your concerns are valid, the more I think about them. On the Daily ITK discussion thread, someone posted some insight from Ali Z on COYS (who's regularly provided ITK in the past) and he apparently wrote: "Even now we have Sherwood and Baldini both offering different directions." If that's even remotely true, then perhaps it lends further credence to the idea that Sherwood wants to institute a "British Core" in our starting XI, as one would speculate that Baldini is advocating for summer purchases (especially Lamela) to be integrated more rapidly.

 

[asianspur]

Most of you'll are jumping the gun..... Lets give Sherwood and co some time then judge is he pro british or not. ...... How the heck some of you claim sherwood and baldini dont get along is beyond me unless you have some inside connection, I will put it as bullshit.

All I know is we've got a top 4 squad players and with the right formation and good management we can push up the table so please dont judge his selection on a useless League Cup game when our priority should be Southampton away. After the Christmas period we can see a better picture of Sherwood's plan if hes given that long......

I dont give a shit what nationality the players are as long they can do a job for the club now. Sherwood would have seen all players from August and would know whos ready or not....... It took Sandro 6 months to get up to speed while in a successful and less turmoil condition. Lamela should not be in the teamsheet just because we bought him for 30 mil...... the great Sebastian Veron floped in 2 grwat teams here... I have to back Sherwood judgement until after
Christmas. .

 

[raf18]

The worst thing is you know they will end up being class together and we'll be ruing the fact it took half a season for it to happen.

 

[Shea]

How do we know townsend is out?

Because we saw him injure his hamstring during the game and Sherwood confirmed he will likely be out for a while in the post match interview