Season Ticket Renewal Thread (Read first post)

[sidford]

Daniel Levy's missed opportunity with ticket hike adds pressure on Postecoglou

Tottenham fans have been left unhappy by matchday ticket prices across the board next season on top of the disappointments of the previous campaign

www.football.london

Ali has done a good piece on it. Reiterates just how bad a decision it is when there had finally been some reasons to feel optimism for next season. Tone deaf

 

[Ghost Hardware]

I went to see the Black Keys at the O2 last month, got two hours of quality music and also a really good support band for £50. Going to Spurs over the last 4 years has been pretty miserable and whatever you say hasn't been value for money at all. In the end these prices aren't sustainable for the club unless the product massively improves. It will just be falling crowd numbers and more and more empty seats. I imagine they're hoping to fill the ground with tourists.

Unfortunately I think tourists will be keeping the stadium full. Unless we are in the bottom half of the table I don’t think the price rise will have a major effect on attendance. At least not from the point we currently are. The atmosphere on the other hand will probably suffer more so.

I also agree with what @Yiddo1982 says above. For the kind of prices we are looking at I would be expecting transfers of the likes of Felix or whoever. At least if that were the case you could say you get what you pay for even if we aren’t top of the league. It is hard to stomach paying some of the highest prices in Europe on the one hand and on the other seeing us working with a budget closer to that of mid table team. As it is I can’t help but feel you’re paying primarily to visit the stadium and the football team is only the secondary attraction.

Obviously that’s an extreme point and the situation is far more complex especially when you factor in paying off the stadium debt for example which obviously plays a large part in this.

Ultimately any sport is an entertainment, I don’t personally prescribe to the idea the more you spend the better the enjoyment. To use your analogy most of the best gigs I’ve been to were in smaller venues for £20/30 odd quid or even less BUT that being said if your going to be spending £70+ then at the very least you want to be seeing a big spectacle.

The fact is we on paper should be an elite club. Training ground, stadium, location, even the ticket prices to match, the problem is the team itself and how the improvement of that squad has been handled is anything but elite. At this point I disagree with the price rise and fundamentally I just don’t believe the ticket prices are justified for what we get but Levy was always going to do it. I’m sure next season the season tickets will also get a significant raise to make up for the freeze this season. As another poster mentioned, everything is getting more expensive so it was inevitable Levy would also raise prices regardless the state of the club.

Personally I canceled my season ticket when covid hit because the price became unjustifiable. It sadness me to say I haven’t once regretted my decision and haven’t for one moment thought about putting my name back on the list.

On a complete side note, I find it wild the Black Keys are playing o2, I remember seeing them at the Astoria when Rubber Factory dropped. Never thought they would get that big.

 

[thekneaf]

Unfortunately I think tourists will be keeping the stadium full. Unless we are in the bottom half of the table I don’t think the price rise will have a major effect on attendance. At least not from the point we currently are. The atmosphere on the other hand will probably suffer more so.

I also agree with what @Yiddo1982 says above. For the kind of prices we are looking at I would be expecting transfers of the likes of Felix or whoever. At least if that were the case you could say you get what you pay for even if we aren’t top of the league. It is hard to stomach paying some of the highest prices in Europe on the one hand and on the other seeing us working with a budget closer to that of mid table team. As it is I can’t help but feel you’re paying primarily to visit the stadium and the football team is only the secondary attraction.

Obviously that’s an extreme point and the situation is far more complex especially when you factor in paying off the stadium debt for example which obviously plays a large part in this.

Ultimately any sport is an entertainment, I don’t personally prescribe to the idea the more you spend the better the enjoyment. To use your analogy most of the best gigs I’ve been to were in smaller venues for £20/30 odd quid or even less BUT that being said if your going to be spending £70+ then at the very least you want to be seeing a big spectacle.

The fact is we on paper should be an elite club. Training ground, stadium, location, even the ticket prices to match, the problem is the team itself and how the improvement of that squad has been handled is anything but elite. At this point I disagree with the price rise and fundamentally I just don’t believe the ticket prices are justified for what we get but Levy was always going to do it. I’m sure next season the season tickets will also get a significant raise to make up for the freeze this season. As another poster mentioned, everything is getting more expensive so it was inevitable Levy would also raise prices regardless the state of the club.

Personally I canceled my season ticket when covid hit because the price became unjustifiable. It sadness me to say I haven’t once regretted my decision and haven’t for one moment thought about putting my name back on the list.

On a complete side note, I find it wild the Black Keys are playing o2, I remember seeing them at the Astoria when Rubber Factory dropped. Never thought they would get that big.

Also as an aside, the black keys did not sell out the 02. They had to give tickets away.

They also totally bad mouthed glastonbury over the payment they were offered and then tried to book a massive gig over the top of it. Which i thought was kind of dumb.

Apologies for running with the off topic

 

[riggi]

Compared to a lot of West End theatre ticket prices , Spurs ticket prices are not that bad. Only Fools & Horses cost me £180 in the stalls for two and no concessions for Senior Citizens which I get at Spurs.

Football was an occasion for working people to have a bit of fun/release at the end of a week of work. Imo it should never be compared to the West End, American sports etc for price.

Unfortunately we moved away from our roots and morphed into an American model of a day out at the big game. Popcorn, face paint and overpriced merch.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

Football was an occasion for working people to have a bit of fun/release at the end of a week of work. Imo it should never be compared to the West End, American sports etc for price.

Unfortunately we moved away from our roots and morphed into an American model of a day out at the big game. Popcorn, face paint and overpriced merch.

Football is also supposed to be something you can watch multiple times a season not a big one off event you might turn up to one every 1-2 years. Comparing football prices to West End theatre prices shows how far away the game is.

 

[ukdy]

Daniel Levy's missed opportunity with ticket hike adds pressure on Postecoglou

Tottenham fans have been left unhappy by matchday ticket prices across the board next season on top of the disappointments of the previous campaign

www.football.london

Ali has done a good piece on it. Reiterates just how bad a decision it is when there had finally been some reasons to feel optimism for next season. Tone deaf

What makes this a better take, is looking at all the price rises across the categories and showing that the most expensive seats have been the hardest hit. Not saying the expensive rises affect all seats, the trust tweets and rag articles.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Daniel Levy's missed opportunity with ticket hike adds pressure on Postecoglou

Tottenham fans have been left unhappy by matchday ticket prices across the board next season on top of the disappointments of the previous campaign

www.football.london

Ali has done a good piece on it. Reiterates just how bad a decision it is when there had finally been some reasons to feel optimism for next season. Tone deaf

I didn’t realise Forrest got put up a category, I find that a little crazy.

 

[jbstarr14]

You won't be able to tell the attendance from official figures as Spurs last season started showing the attendance as seats sold and not seats occupied as in previous seasons , other clubs do the same.
Just compare last season to the season before on this website.

Tottenham Hotspur | Home Attendances | 2022-2023 | Football Web Pages

Live Football Scores, League Tables, Form Guides, Attendances, Latest News and other stats from the Premier League, Football League and Non-League football

www.footballwebpages.co.uk

This is fair though. ‘Seats sold’ should give a decent indication of how many people intented/wanted to attend, whereas ‘seats occupied’ shows how many were actually able to make it.

The club aren’t being disingenuous by includeng people whose ‘courtesy’ Vauxhall Meriva broke down on the North Circular…

 

[jurgen11]

So if your section has gone up where you have a ST, when you sell on exchange , who gets the “profit”

 

[marion52]

So if your section has gone up where you have a ST, when you sell on exchange , who gets the “profit”

not us, we get, I think, a nineteenth of out ST cost and the club have the rest plus an admin fee.
I haven’t sold on exchange since before lockdown so don’t know if that is still the same.
on the odd occasion I haven’t gone I have gifted my ticket to friends

 

[bobby.james]

not us, we get, I think, a nineteenth of out ST cost and the club have the rest plus an admin fee.
I haven’t sold on exchange since before lockdown so don’t know if that is still the same.
on the odd occasion I haven’t gone I have gifted my ticket to friends

No you got the face value price of the ticket (dependant on the category), enough that in theory you can make a profit selling every ticket…

 

[marion52]

No you got the face value price of the ticket (dependant on the category), enough that in theory you can make a profit selling every ticket…

not sure how I’d make a profit but the club does as they don’t sell concessions on exchange so they make profit on the difference to the concession price I paid and the full price.

 

[Spurspiria]

Great article by Jonathan Liew

Spiralling costs undermine idea of sport as a communal force for good | Jonathan Liew

As tickets become increasingly unaffordable, the experience of attending sport now seems to be reserved for a select few

www.theguardian.com

 

[Dannyspur]

not sure how I’d make a profit but the club does as they don’t sell concessions on exchange so they make profit on the difference to the concession price I paid and the full price.

What concessions? The club is phasing them out.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Great article by Jonathan Liew

Spiralling costs undermine idea of sport as a communal force for good | Jonathan Liew

As tickets become increasingly unaffordable, the experience of attending sport now seems to be reserved for a select few

www.theguardian.com

No mention that Arsenal prices very similar to Spurs and they have probably paid off their stadium.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

What concessions? The club is phasing them out.

Think it's only Senior Citizen concessions that are being phased out , junior memberships & ticket prices still seem to be available apart from on TE.
I can can understand why no concessions are available on TE , if an adult ST puts their ticket up for sale and someone buying wants to pay the junior price for the ticket who takes the loss, the club or ST holder selling.
On the other hand if a junior/senior citizen ST puts their seat up for sale the club get the full price and credit the junior/senior ST with the concession price , swings and roundabouts.

PS Compared to most other clubs on concessions , Spurs are just about the worst.

 

[marion52]

What concessions? The club is phasing them out.

I don’t think they are phasing them out, they have just put a limit on them.
I still have a senior ST, and if I put it on the exchange I get my money back (if it sells) and the club get full price back. If I gift it the person who receives it doesn’t have to pay more if they aren’t a concession, which they did back at the old ground, as my friend who I sat with had to pay extra when her daughter came instead of her husband.

 

[spursfan77]

Blatant effort by the club to push people back towards season tickets. Obvious that a lot of people have been dumping their season tickets in favour of readily available match day tickets. I suspect the effect will be a lot more empty seats across all categories. These prices are too expensive for many people now.

I think you’re right with that actually.

The ticket price increase will deter a lot of fans and attract more tourists I suspect, which in turn leads to a higher spend in the club shop and around the stadium. I suspect that is the other part of the plan.

If say the club could prove that the ticket price increase went to the foundation to help the local area then the PR they’d get from that would be great.

 

[spursfan77]

One of only 3 teams to freeze ST prices. I think slight increase in general ticket prices in this climate where prices for everything are going up is overall acceptable.

Some rumours that they have done it with the view that the FAB are meeting and then on the back of that meeting they will lower them again. Basically using it to show that the FAB can be an effective tool. I don’t believe it for a second but one to watch.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

I don’t think they are phasing them out, they have just put a limit on them.
I still have a senior ST, and if I put it on the exchange I get my money back (if it sells) and the club get full price back. If I gift it the person who receives it doesn’t have to pay more if they aren’t a concession, which they did back at the old ground, as my friend who I sat with had to pay extra when her daughter came instead of her husband.

Believe Senior Citizen is being phased out , senior citizen membership is no longer available there is only adult or junior Hotspur membership.
Current senior citizen ST's & memberships are still renewable but if given up and then you decide to apply again in say a couple of years for a ST or membership I don't think concession rates would be available to you.