Season Ticket Renewal Thread (Read first post)

[TheSpillage]

Compared to a lot of West End theatre ticket prices , Spurs ticket prices are not that bad. Only Fools & Horses cost me £180 in the stalls for two and no concessions for Senior Citizens which I get at Spurs.

Yep, and the comedy is better at Spurs!

 

[Doctor Dinkey]

She’s also floating the idea that people don’t take their seats for the first 15 minutes of the United game in protest which irked me.

Just fuck off with ideas like that for a bit. We’ve all be drained of anything positive for so long and the stadium has been toxic at times, let’s just go and enjoy it for a bit and get behind the new manager.

Rightly or wrongly the other stuff needs to take a back seat for a little while. Everyone needs to put all energy into getting fully behind Ange for a bit, nothing more.

I disagree. If the club wanted the atmosphere to be positive and non-toxic it shouldn't have whacked match day tickets up by 20%. It's down to them. Fans aren't going to be obedient happy clappers if tin-eared decisions like this continue to be made.

 

[NickHSpurs]

I disagree. If the club wanted the atmosphere to be positive and non-toxic it shouldn't have whacked match day tickets up by 20%. It's down to them. Fans aren't going to be obedient happy clappers if tin-eared decisions like this continue to be made.

What can we do though mate? Let’s be real.

If we don’t buy tickets someone else will.

If we don’t show up for the first 15 minutes or whatever it’ll get a brief mention on Sky and maybe a little segment on TalkSport that day. Then it’s forgotten.

This issue isn’t isolated to Spurs, it’s not even isolated to football. It’s not even isolated to sport.

 

[C1w8]

What can we do though mate? Let’s be real.

If we don’t buy tickets someone else will.

If we don’t show up for the first 15 minutes or whatever it’ll get a brief mention on Sky and maybe a little segment on TalkSport that day. Then it’s forgotten.

This issue isn’t isolated to Spurs, it’s not even isolated to football. It’s not even isolated to sport.

I think the point is the ground has been very toxic recently - footballs been crap and it all felt directionless being the main reasons.

However when fans also feel like theyre being exploited at the same it makes the atmosphere even worse, and if the club wants more patience from fans per some of the stuff from levys statements, this type of price hike is what they need to cut out.

Not sure what action might be best and youre right probably futile but can certainly understand why people want to do something and not just take it.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

Right when people start to feel somewhat positive about the club again, here comes Daniel Levy to take care of that real quick. This club couldn't show more contempt for its supporters if it tried. What a remarkably stupid football club. There is not one person on the board with a brain cell.

They have brains. They just don’t care, they view the club as a cash machine and the fans their to be milked. They have no love for football or fans, it’s business and they have a captive market.

So I understand why but I can never understand liking ENIC, I can never like something that views us with such contempt.

If they cared about the fans they would have shown more ambition on the pitch and also better communication with fans. It’s a toxic relationship we live with, they bought something that we love and that is that.

 

[Doctor Dinkey]

What can we do though mate? Let’s be real.

If we don’t buy tickets someone else will.

Not sure you're right in that last statement. There's a tipping point beyond which people won't pay, and I think our pricing policy already over estimates the value of the product. You'll see a lot more empty seats this year as the price increase deters non-season ticket holders.

 

[sidford]

I don't agree with the it's pointless protesting or being vocal about wanting things to change.
Look at the fact there are still some season tickets left for sale albeit up in the gods. Who would have thought that in early July anyone could just go and buy a season ticket. Fans have shown they won't be completely taken for a ride all the time.
To roll over and do nothing is not the answer and ourselves and other clubs have shown what can happen when we are vocal so we should do it again

 

[marion52]

They will get away with it in the short term, fans excited to see how we go under the new manager and tourists.
However if the football doesn’t improve fans will stop and if/when Son goes many of those tourists won’t be coming.

 

[NickHSpurs]

I don't agree with the it's pointless protesting or being vocal about wanting things to change.
Look at the fact there are still some season tickets left for sale albeit up in the gods. Who would have thought that in early July anyone could just go and buy a season ticket. Fans have shown they won't be completely taken for a ride all the time.
To roll over and do nothing is not the answer and ourselves and other clubs have shown what can happen when we are vocal so we should do it again

I don’t think anyone is saying do nothing, but those of us that can afford to go don’t want to shell out all this money to sit through more toxic behaviour in the stands, it’s exhausting and we’ve had years of it. We want to go, enjoy the football and get behind the team for a change. During the game we need to get behind Ange and the team 100%, nothing else.

Those that feel strongly enough can protest before the game, at half time, after the game, at the training ground, online, etc.

 

[NickHSpurs]

Not sure you're right in that last statement. There's a tipping point beyond which people won't pay, and I think our pricing policy already over estimates the value of the product. You'll see a lot more empty seats this year as the price increase deters non-season ticket holders.

That’s what needs to happen and it’s the only way Daniel will care, if it hits him in the pocket.

 

[tommo84]

I’m not surprised by a price increase - although the upgrade of the Newcastle and Forest fixtures to Cat A and B respectively is bullshit. Over the past 12 months, despite the cost of living crisis and rising interest rates etc, demand for live events seems to be as high as ever - maybe higher than ever before. Obviously the tribalism of football means the demand for tickets to watch certain clubs is going to be less than others, and this might be the season where we see rows of empty seats at a handful of clubs in the EPL. However, so many of our fans are yet to experience the new stadium, and we still draw a lot of football tourism for a number of reasons, so I still think we’ll sell over 95% of tickets to every game. You also have to factor in that without European football there will be fewer opportunities for people to get tickets this season, so the club are trying to mitigate the impact of lost revenue through having fewer home games and I still expect demand to remain very high even if the product on the pitch isn’t good.

It’ll sound bleak, but the club have us by the balls. Common sense would say that we’ll hit the tipping point between pricing and demand soon, but as other have noted there are other events around London which are far more expensive and also sell well.

 

[Albertbarich]

I'd be interested how the tickets now stack up to other Premier league clubs. That's the barometer to me.

We all know the league as a whole has the morals of Rose West so on theory this should be in line with everyone else. I've seen a lot of comparisons to concerts and other sports and I understand that but to judge them I'd compare them to other clubs.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Done a very rudimentary calculation of average adult GA admission prices for Cat A games with the other mob up the road, Spurs £84 , Mob up the road £85, seems whoever decides ticket prices at both clubs thinking along the same lines.

 

[ukdy]

Done a very rudimentary calculation of average adult GA admission prices for Cat A games with the other mob up the road, Spurs £84 , Mob up the road £85, seems whoever decides ticket prices at both clubs thinking along the same lines.

I think their most expensive Adult Cat A game price is £103. Same as us.

& for us it's only literally the small fraction of seats on the halfway line.

I'm the next rung down and a ST holder (£1345) but if I wanted to buy my seat as a one off, it'd be £95, £79 and £65 for cat A (6games), B (9games) and C (4games).

I chose to sit here, because in my opinion it's one of the best views in the ground, I'm with all my mates, and it's by the White Hart Bar. I moved here from a cheaper £1050 seat in block 108.

Whilst the seats are some of the most expensive and I agree it could be a touch cheaper, I balance that with the fact it's a new effing stadium that needs paying for, the economy is affecting all of us, the club and it's suppliers included (yes players wages rising too), if I couldn't afford my seat I'd move to a cheaper seat, and that seat-move process is simple if you're organised... and the clubs that are perhaps 'more sucessful' than us of late with cheaper seats - are legacy 1 city clubs or those owned by nation states with deep oil pockets, happy to take less profit on seats.

Look at City, they misreport actual attendances as per Greater Manchester Police FOI information, often have to give away seats, and the owners don't care because it's better to have the appearance of a full ground (and a team that's popular) than charge the earth and people stay away.

 

[thekneaf]

As an American I look at these prices and can't believe how low the price of tickets is. Meaningless games in major sports are over $100 a game over here. We sell MLS tickets that are more expensive than these prices.

Not trying to offend anyone, but I've never looked at single match pricing as I haven't been able to cross the pond for a match yet.

American pricing norms are precisely the kind of things we're trying to avoid. Not having a pop by the way, this is just a topic I'm interested in as a wider conversation.

I have colleagues who work on our NY office who only watch the theatre in London because your ticket pricing is 6 to 10 times more expensive over there.

This is my biggest fear with the influx of American owners, they are from a totally different culture that only feels similar due to a shared language.

US pricing in UK sport or culture would make both the preserve of only the very affluent.

Football is a cash cow already, fans provide atmosphere, they're an asset not a commodity to milk.

Personally I can afford a little extra, but that's just where I am at the moment. I can totally see how upsetting this would be for those that can't afford it.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

I think their most expensive Adult Cat A game price is £103. Same as us.

& for us it's only literally the small fraction of seats on the halfway line.

I'm the next rung down and a ST holder (£1345) but if I wanted to buy my seat as a one off, it'd be £95, £79 and £65 for cat A (6games), B (9games) and C (4games).

I chose to sit here, because in my opinion it's one of the best views in the ground, I'm with all my mates, and it's by the White Hart Bar. I moved here from a cheaper £1050 seat in block 108.

Whilst the seats are some of the most expensive and I agree it could be a touch cheaper, I balance that with the fact it's a new effing stadium that needs paying for, the economy is affecting all of us, the club and it's suppliers included (yes players wages rising too), if I couldn't afford my seat I'd move to a cheaper seat, and that seat-move process is simple if you're organised... and the clubs that are perhaps 'more sucessful' than us of late with cheaper seats - are legacy 1 city clubs or those owned by nation states with deep oil pockets, happy to take less profit on seats.

Look at City, they misreport actual attendances as per Greater Manchester Police FOI information, often have to give away seats, and the owners don't care because it's better to have the appearance of a full ground (and a team that's popular) than charge the earth and people stay away.

Pricing between the two clubs is very similar, as you say top price both £103 , we do have the slightly cheaper Cat A adult tickets at £65 but that is a little misleading as very few tickets available at that price in blocks 110 & 109.
As a season ticket holder I am happy with the price freeze for us and I can afford the prices , I know some complain but as I said in another post just look at London theatre ticket prices and I doubt any theatre in London is paying their star performer £10,000,000 per year.

 

[Dougal]

Maybe if we go in with a lower offer for the match day ticket Levy may appreciate our negotiating technique and clear lack of shame?

 

[Tiffers]

That’s what needs to happen and it’s the only way Daniel will care, if it hits him in the pocket.

it's never going to happen so get real

 

[yankspurs]

As an American I look at these prices and can't believe how low the price of tickets is. Meaningless games in major sports are over $100 a game over here. We sell MLS tickets that are more expensive than these prices.

Not trying to offend anyone, but I've never looked at single match pricing as I haven't been able to cross the pond for a match yet.

You are correct. The prices in England are definitely far cheaper. But that in & of itself is a problem. They have already priced the majority of people out of going to games & having decent seats here. It can cost a couple hundred dollars for 1 person to go to game, grab a few beers, some food & transportation. It is outrageous.

 

[ukdy]

As always, DYOR.

I've done a 'shallow dive' into the numbers for this and last season. ST Holders frozen again. The pdfs are still available on the club website.

From last season to this season it seems to be junior tickets are up a few quid for CatB&C about a fiver for CatA. Adults tickets are up about a fiver for Cat B&C and a bit more for CatA. The number of different pricing bands has been reduced to amalgamate the pricing.

It's the already highest priced bands that see the greatest increase which makes sense to me. If you can afford those seats in the first place, you can pay a little more. It'll be a percentage of the whole across the seat range.

But of course, only the highest increase is being reported, and as a number making it appear that all tickets are going up this much, because that gets the headlines and the outraged on twitter going.

2022/23 here: https://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/ne...remier-league-ticket-on-sale-dates-confirmed/
2023/24 here: https://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/2023/july/match-ticket-on-sale-dates-202324/

2022/23 (13 price bands, excluding 1882)

2023/24 (11 price bands, excluding 1882)