Season Ticket Renewal Thread (Read first post)

[CoopsieDeadpool]

We’re not customers but then again that’s one part of the problem

These legacy fans really need wind their necks in or make way for the new blood to come through and spend proper money in the club shop & buying half n half scarves etc!!!!

Don't be silly. If you're not a customer, what are you?

I can answer that and how the club treats us existing season ticket holders.

They opened up the seat moves last summer and there were hardly any options for moving seats beyond ones or a load of twos together.

Two weeks later the club announce that thousands more season tickets will be made available for people. Loads and loads of space for groups of 4/5/6 people to sit together etc.

Now why didn’t they wait and let existing season ticket holders chose those seats first? Or was just getting more season tickets sold more important than appeasing the current ones?

As with renewal last year, you can apply to move but whether you are able to find seats that you want is another matter.

Very happy with seats in Paxton, middle tier centre section, view great but would like to swap for similar in South stand. These were the best seats available to us at original time of choice.

For every cup match we get evicted from our seats, afterall despite price season ticket only covers premiership matches, as we are in a designated away seat for those games.

So we are again looking to relocate - last year nothing suitable.

Back on the list coopsie i'm afraid, not that i'm that bothered at the moment. 2 out of the 3 of us are renewing and we cant make all the games so we can share the tickets and where needs be i'll get them via the membership, fingers crossed. At least this way the 2 seats should be taken up for every game unlike this season where all 3 were occupied for only a handful of games.

Thank you to each of you for your measured & reasoned responses.

Seems there's a fair bit for the club to do when it comes to putting first the needs of those who pay good money to keep the club afloat.

I just hope you all still manage to find a bit of happiness & joy out of supporting a club you've invested so much time, effort & money doing so over the years.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

It's mainly financial. It's just I've been on the waiting list for years and years and years and got a ST for 2 years at Wembley just so that I could be in a position to get one for the new stadium. Sad face is once I don't renew not sure when I'll get chance again if finances change

But it's not like how it was at the old ground when tickets were fairly difficult to get on exchange due to size of stadium

Thanks for the polite response, bud.

Really sorry it's come to this for you but, as you say, hopefully with tickets being easier to come across at the new stadium, you'll still get to your fair share of games & get a bit of joy out of the experience.

 

[Real_madyidd]

Sticking to my guns and not renewing. I think the club will go all the way through the waiting list again to be honest. I don't even think I will go for bronze membership this year. Can't be going around turning off all the lights and then spending a grand a year plus travel and food on going to football, it makes no sense.

That grand can be spent on beer or heating.

 

[Gassin's finest]

Same here, I'm letting mine lapse. Cost, travel time, fixture changes, awkward times, and just a general falling out of love and engagement with modern top flight football. I'll get a Now TV Sports subscription and watch it on the telly instead.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

With the cost of living rising so much will be interesting to see what the ST renewal rate will be in the Premier League clubs , I suspect the three most expensive clubs i.e Spurs, Woolwich & Chelsea could see the worst renewal rates with us bottom of the pile as probably the only club asking fans to cough up before the end of the season . Wonder if the new football regulator will be able to act on fan complaints on matters like this .

THST did raise the matter with the club but got no response , extract from their newsletter.

"THFC rejected the compromise and did not take on board any of our points. It also failed to provide an adequate explanation as to why it was necessary to move the date forward to 29 April."

 

[Lifelong]

With the cost of living rising so much will be interesting to see what the ST renewal rate will be in the Premier League clubs , I suspect the three most expensive clubs i.e Spurs, Woolwich & Chelsea could see the worst renewal rates with us bottom of the pile as probably the only club asking fans to cough up before the end of the season . Wonder if the new football regulator will be able to act on fan complaints on matters like this .

THST did raise the matter with the club but got no response , extract from their newsletter.

"THFC rejected the compromise and did not take on board any of our points. It also failed to provide an adequate explanation as to why it was necessary to move the date forward to 29 April."

As each season passes the ‘true fan’ means less and less to the clubs…….it’s more and more about the tourist dollar and worldwide tv exposure growing the ‘brand’.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

As each season passes the ‘true fan’ means less and less to the clubs…….it’s more and more about the tourist dollar and worldwide tv exposure growing the ‘brand’.

But what are the club to do, bud?

You/we all want our club to be as successful as possible and, unlike the racist lot from down the road, or the nicely greased up Man City, we don't have a billionaire willing to pump in, well Billions.

But you want us to be active in transfer markets. Where does that money come from? Yep, TV rights & other endorsements outside of the club itself.

Sorry mate, but this "true fan" thing is just a stick that's used to claim some sort of superiority by those (very lucky) people who have paid good money to follow the club.

I've said countless times, I'd give absolutely fucking anything to be in any of your positions. You're lucky as fuck!

But whether you like or not, tv exposure is right now, and is going to be the future.

It would be downright fucking absurd if the club wasn't keeping up with that.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

But what are the club to do, bud?

You/we all want our club to be as successful as possible and, unlike the racist lot from down the road, or the nicely greased up Man City, we don't have a billionaire willing to pump in, well Billions.

But you want us to be active in transfer markets. Where does that money come from? Yep, TV rights & other endorsements outside of the club itself.

Sorry mate, but this "true fan" thing is just a stick that's used to claim some sort of superiority by those (very lucky) people who have paid good money to follow the club.

I've said countless times, I'd give absolutely fucking anything to be in any of your positions. You're lucky as fuck!

But whether you like or not, tv exposure is right now, and is going to be the future.

It would be downright fucking absurd if the club wasn't keeping up with that.

lol true fans is not a superiority thing. When we went in the 70’s 80’s football supporters were classed as scum, nobody other than true fans went. Then we had the 90’s etc where we were absolutely shocking. Only true fans would have been mad enough to go…

And this is not like shopping in Sainsburys. We are supporters of Tottenham Hotspur- not customers

Good luck to football when all the true fans have left…

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

lol true fans is not a superiority thing. When we went in the 70’s 80’s football supporters were classed as scum, nobody other than true fans went. Then we had the 90’s etc where we were absolutely shocking. Only true fans would have been mad enough to go…

And this is not like shopping in Sainsburys. We are supporters of Tottenham Hotspur- not customers

Good luck to football when all the true fans have left…

I was, and am still a true fan.

I'm not some whippersnapper who's happened to stumble across the club. My old man was taking me to The Lane as far back as the late 70s. And I continued to go until he breathed his last breath in 1999.

Since then, we've relocated to Cornwall, shit has happened in my life, and TV is my only avenue to all things THFC. That doesn't make me any less of a "true fan" as you're claiming to be.

It's just the way it is. And it's the way it's going to be in the future.

EVERYONE has the right to do with their money as they please. But NOBODY can allow for changes in life/circumstances.

Something a "true person" is able to acknowledge without demeaning the capacity of others.

I could easily say "true fans' SUPPORT at times of need & get behind the team. Rather than constantly come onto platforms such as this to moan, complain, lambast every team selection & bemoan the owners at every opportunity.

But I'm not like that!

 

[Lifelong]

But what are the club to do, bud?

You/we all want our club to be as successful as possible and, unlike the racist lot from down the road, or the nicely greased up Man City, we don't have a billionaire willing to pump in, well Billions.

But you want us to be active in transfer markets. Where does that money come from? Yep, TV rights & other endorsements outside of the club itself.

Sorry mate, but this "true fan" thing is just a stick that's used to claim some sort of superiority by those (very lucky) people who have paid good money to follow the club.

I've said countless times, I'd give absolutely fucking anything to be in any of your positions. You're lucky as fuck!

But whether you like or not, tv exposure is right now, and is going to be the future.

It would be downright fucking absurd if the club wasn't keeping up with that.

Don’t get me wrong coopsie I totally get where the club is coming from and it’s nothing like the good old days of standing on the shelf and the peanut seller coming round……but those fans who shell out season after season a small fortune should be afforded a little more respect…just my twopence worth…..

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Don’t get me wrong coopsie I totally get where the club is coming from and it’s nothing like the good old days of standing on the shelf and the peanut seller coming round……but those fans who shell out season after season a small fortune should be afforded a little more respect…just my twopence worth…..

I absolutely, categorically do not disagree, mate.

I just think some confuse respect with entitlement.

 

[DogsOfWar]

lol true fans is not a superiority thing. When we went in the 70’s 80’s football supporters were classed as scum, nobody other than true fans went. Then we had the 90’s etc where we were absolutely shocking. Only true fans would have been mad enough to go…

And this is not like shopping in Sainsburys. We are supporters of Tottenham Hotspur- not customers

Good luck to football when all the true fans have left…

Football at the highest level has changed and we're unfortunate that our club is in that level.

I rarely go to the new stadium now, ticket prices, travel, food/drink is too expensive and the atmosphere is not great.
I don't have an issue with that, times have changed, and I've accepted I'm not part of the modern game so I've become an armchair fan.

I get my matchday fix from going along to my local side Peterborough.
10 minutes on the train, 90 minutes standing on a terrace singing/chanting along, and a cheap beer/bovril and a pie at half time.
Exactly how it was going from Enfield to WHL watching Spurs all those years ago.

And whilst my support for Spurs can never be replaced my connection to the game can.

 

[Lifelong]

Football at the highest level has changed and we're unfortunate that our club is in that level.

I rarely go to the new stadium now, ticket prices, travel, food/drink is too expensive and the atmosphere is not great.
I don't have an issue with that, times have changed, and I've accepted I'm not part of the modern game so I've become an armchair fan.

I get my matchday fix from going along to my local side Peterborough.
10 minutes on the train, 90 minutes standing on a terrace singing/chanting along, and a cheap beer/bovril and a pie at half time.
Exactly how it was going from Enfield to WHL watching Spurs all those years ago.

And whilst my support for Spurs can never be replaced my connection to the game can.

I fear more of us older generation fans are heading the same way….apart from the Peterborough bit ? maybe over the years that’s always been the case and as I’m one now I’m noticing it but I think it’s getting worse…

 

[WeGotLedley]

Is that junior season ticket or junior one Hotspur members though?

Bit tight if the members get something and the junior season ticket holders don’t. If that happened I’d probably call up the membership office.

Nope, that's a season ticket.
And currently in full price seat... Hoping to move into a junior priced seat when they open seat moves..

 

[Delboy75]

It’s interesting why the date was set so early there’s only 2 possible reasons really.

1. A cunning plan while top 4 is still a possibility and Conte and Kane are still at the club.

2. Accounting reasons and loan payments are due by a certain date and they need the cash flow.

Sadly because of the recurring pattern at this club of expectation followed by disappointment you can pretty much rinse and repeat this thread every year. But we will all know it will sell out. But sadly year on year the true core fan base is probably being eroded little by little.

 

[ShelfWatcher]

Change is constant, it's just the rate of it that differs..
The move and then Covid were big difference makers. Looks like the economic crisis and IMHO our repeated failures on the trophy front are key factors in another season of significant change
Whether the moaning culture is significant I don't know. Many of the non supportive moaners appear to be medium to long term STH, so presumably they like or accept that kind of environment
I've never been an STH but there were times in the past I would have found the money if we'd had a fanatical sing and cheer support like some of the continental clubs have. But no way was I prepared to sit game after game with the moaners, groaners and amateur analysts that make up much of our ST base
TV and an occasional visit to reconnect my roots is enough for me now. It's over to the next generations to make the new Lane whatever it will become. Probably Tesco lite with a slice of Samsung and a beer with fries and sushi to spice up the atmosphere a little.

 

[JCRD]

I have a fair bit of balance on my accoutn due to selling tickets on ticket exchange - anyone elses at zero at the moment? They wouldnt let me offset the credit balance with the season ticket cost - which is absurd but not really hurting me although can imagine it hurts others and respect that. Just pisses me off.

 

[Becks_THFC]

Hoping to move from South Upper to South lower (Hopefully safe standing) What do you reckon the chances are?

 

[Wolvesyid]

Hoping to move from South Upper to South lower (Hopefully safe standing) What do you reckon the chances are?

Hoping to do the same. Renewed on the first day to get at the front of the queue but I’m not hopeful.

 

[Real_madyidd]

It’s interesting why the date was set so early there’s only 2 possible reasons really.

1. A cunning plan while top 4 is still a possibility and Conte and Kane are still at the club.

2. Accounting reasons and loan payments are due by a certain date and they need the cash flow.

Sadly because of the recurring pattern at this club of expectation followed by disappointment you can pretty much rinse and repeat this thread every year. But we will all know it will sell out. But sadly year on year the true core fan base is probably being eroded little by little.

Speaking to a Brighton fan earlier, they have to renew in March.