I know we should never let facts get in the way, but while in retrospect he should have played the ball the fact is that Valencia was offside and the play should have stopped. In addition, if Valencia was not offside, I'd like to know why Kane's goal was ruled out."We"
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From what i saw you had you arm up in the air while Sakho just glided in behind you to put WH two up. No "we" in that Danny my boy. Poor defending and nothing anyone else could have done when you don't play to the whistle.
Because it was kane himself who got to the end of the ball when he was in an offside position. Valencia was not the one who got the ball. Whether he was interfering or not is another matter, but you cant surely be comparing Kane's offisde to Valencia's.I know we should never let facts get in the way, but while in retrospect he should have played the ball the fact is that Valencia was offside and the play should have stopped. In addition, if Valencia was not offside, I'd like to know why Kane's goal was ruled out.
Yes, I am doing the very same thing: the point is not whether Kane was the player who scored, the point is that Valencia should have been flagged offside. Both Kane and Valencia were in offside positions: we should have won 2-1.Because it was kane himself who got to the end of the ball when he was in an offside position. Valencia was not the one who got the ball. Whether he was interfering or not is another matter, but you cant surely be comparing Kane's offisde to Valencia's.
Rose was our best player bar the silly lapse of focus.
That's all very well, but he was the only defender who would have seen that it was offside, and so it was a natural reaction. Who else was going to appeal? It was poor refereeing.Valencia was offside as he made an attempt to touch the ball, that's the rule (or interpretation of it). You can be in an offside position as long as you don't go for the ball, that's why you see linesmen waiting until that happens before flagging.
But Rose still should've defended first & appealed second; shocking really to be stood there with his arm in the air.
That's all very well, but he was the only defender who would have seen that it was offside, and so it was a natural reaction. Who else was going to appeal? It was poor refereeing.
You didn't properly answer the first point.Standing still appealing should not be a natural reaction. Defending first is.
But I agree it was poor officiating, from the linesman though not the ref
He was the only defender in a position to clear the ball. He's a defender not a linesman. He should have played to the whistle that he didn't was a shocking error by a defender.That's all very well, but he was the only defender who would have seen that it was offside, and so it was a natural reaction. Who else was going to appeal? It was poor refereeing.
It is only shocking after the event: in real time, it was understandable. The thing that I've been impressed with is that he appears to be learning from his mistakes. I have a problem with many defenders, especially fullbacks, just following the ball instead of where it might be sent to.He was the only defender in a position to clear the ball. He's a defender not a linesman. He should have played to the whistle that he didn't was a shocking error by a defender.
What? It's basic schoolboy stuff he's a premiership footballer. Don't go in to coaching if you believe that is understandable.It is only shocking after the event: in real time, it was understandable. The thing that I've been impressed with is that he appears to be learning from his mistakes. I have a problem with many defenders, especially fullbacks, just following the ball instead of where it might be sent to.
He's saying "We" because it's a team effort. The new team togetherness can't just apply in some situations."We"
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From what i saw you had you arm up in the air while Sakho just glided in behind you to put WH two up. No "we" in that Danny my boy. Poor defending and nothing anyone else could have done when you don't play to the whistle.