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Rose: We made ‘individual errors’ against West Ham United

mawspurs

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Danny Rose reflects on Tottenham Hotspur’s 2-2 draw with West Ham United at White Hart Lane in the Premier League on Sunday.

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Gaz_Gammon

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"We"

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From what i saw you had you arm up in the air while Sakho just glided in behind you to put WH two up. No "we" in that Danny my boy. Poor defending and nothing anyone else could have done when you don't play to the whistle.
 

Dougal

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The lot of them were at it. We were losing it all over the pitch. Long time since I saw so many individual mistakes from us. Sloppy misplaced passes, slow to the ball, no one comes out well from that game and I hope they get a kick up the arse.
 

Sweetsman

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"We"

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From what i saw you had you arm up in the air while Sakho just glided in behind you to put WH two up. No "we" in that Danny my boy. Poor defending and nothing anyone else could have done when you don't play to the whistle.
I know we should never let facts get in the way, but while in retrospect he should have played the ball the fact is that Valencia was offside and the play should have stopped. In addition, if Valencia was not offside, I'd like to know why Kane's goal was ruled out.
 

yusrisafri

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I know we should never let facts get in the way, but while in retrospect he should have played the ball the fact is that Valencia was offside and the play should have stopped. In addition, if Valencia was not offside, I'd like to know why Kane's goal was ruled out.
Because it was kane himself who got to the end of the ball when he was in an offside position. Valencia was not the one who got the ball. Whether he was interfering or not is another matter, but you cant surely be comparing Kane's offisde to Valencia's.

Rose was our best player bar the silly lapse of focus.
 

DEFchenkOE

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Football is a team game, hence Rose saying we. Dembele made a mistake for their 1st goal. Hugo made a big mistake for Liverpools first goal and also looked shaky yesterday. Eriksen could barely pass to a white shirt when he came on. The team were making mistakes all over the pitch. At least Rose actually did something to cancel out his error.
 

Spurs 1961

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Just posted in the match thread but looking at the highlights I wonder if that lack of sharpness was because a bunch of human beings, not used to winning things, knew there was a cup final waiting in seven days. Finals are always one the the highlights of any players career. Just looking for some logic to whay so many were off the boil
 

UbeAstard

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Dont forget Dyer, I think he was to blame for their 2nd goal not aware of where his man was.
 

Sweetsman

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Because it was kane himself who got to the end of the ball when he was in an offside position. Valencia was not the one who got the ball. Whether he was interfering or not is another matter, but you cant surely be comparing Kane's offisde to Valencia's.

Rose was our best player bar the silly lapse of focus.
Yes, I am doing the very same thing: the point is not whether Kane was the player who scored, the point is that Valencia should have been flagged offside. Both Kane and Valencia were in offside positions: we should have won 2-1.
 

14/04/91

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Valencia was offside as he made an attempt to touch the ball, that's the rule (or interpretation of it). You can be in an offside position as long as you don't go for the ball, that's why you see linesmen waiting until that happens before flagging.

But Rose still should've defended first & appealed second; shocking really to be stood there with his arm in the air.
 

Sweetsman

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Valencia was offside as he made an attempt to touch the ball, that's the rule (or interpretation of it). You can be in an offside position as long as you don't go for the ball, that's why you see linesmen waiting until that happens before flagging.

But Rose still should've defended first & appealed second; shocking really to be stood there with his arm in the air.
That's all very well, but he was the only defender who would have seen that it was offside, and so it was a natural reaction. Who else was going to appeal? It was poor refereeing.
 

14/04/91

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That's all very well, but he was the only defender who would have seen that it was offside, and so it was a natural reaction. Who else was going to appeal? It was poor refereeing.

Standing still appealing should not be a natural reaction. Defending first is.

But I agree it was poor officiating, from the linesman though not the ref
 

h2005

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That's all very well, but he was the only defender who would have seen that it was offside, and so it was a natural reaction. Who else was going to appeal? It was poor refereeing.
He was the only defender in a position to clear the ball. He's a defender not a linesman. He should have played to the whistle that he didn't was a shocking error by a defender.
 

Sweetsman

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He was the only defender in a position to clear the ball. He's a defender not a linesman. He should have played to the whistle that he didn't was a shocking error by a defender.
It is only shocking after the event: in real time, it was understandable. The thing that I've been impressed with is that he appears to be learning from his mistakes. I have a problem with many defenders, especially fullbacks, just following the ball instead of where it might be sent to.
 

h2005

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It is only shocking after the event: in real time, it was understandable. The thing that I've been impressed with is that he appears to be learning from his mistakes. I have a problem with many defenders, especially fullbacks, just following the ball instead of where it might be sent to.
What? It's basic schoolboy stuff he's a premiership footballer. Don't go in to coaching if you believe that is understandable.
 

THFCSPURS19

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"We"

Mmmmmmmmm

From what i saw you had you arm up in the air while Sakho just glided in behind you to put WH two up. No "we" in that Danny my boy. Poor defending and nothing anyone else could have done when you don't play to the whistle.
He's saying "We" because it's a team effort. The new team togetherness can't just apply in some situations.
 
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