Redknapp on Our Corner taking

[Wellspurs]

Get Peter Taylor in to show the lads the two raised arms corner technique.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

There's a lot of venom being directed at Redknapp at the moment. The mood at the Stoke game was sour, in my opinion. What was the tipping point for people? Was it getting hammered by Arsenal? Or was it being leapfrogged by Arsenal?

 

[Spurrific]

I'm getting a bit wound up at him being coy about the England job. Either say you're going to take the shit job or say youll stay at the greatest club on the planet. Just stop fluttering your fucking eyelashes at those corrupt ****s at the FA

 

[AlexSkree]

He cant say he will take a job he hasnt been approached for.. Give the man a break..

 

[thinktank]

He cant say he will take a job he hasnt been approached for.. Give the man a break..

Yes he can.

 

[ethanedwards]

Guys its not just about goals from set plays.....its about actually threatening.

Like 5/205 isn't the worst in the league I guess, but you have to think of those 200 how many even ended up going to a Spurs player...how many forced a save? And most importantly....how many beat the first man??

What I am trying to get at is that we give teams an easy ride on set plays. When you play Man Utd you know every set piece is gonna be a battle. Chelsea at their best had EXCELLENT delivery and the threat of Terry, Drogba, Ballack and then players like Ivanovis, Huth, Alex etc.

The issue is you cannot play beautiful football and outplay every team and win every game (unless your Barca!) when we are short of ideas, like at Everton, like the Stoke game, like Man United, like Wolves at home. Those games you need good set pieces to...if not score...at least wear down the opposition.

As it stands I think teams KNOW when they play Spurs that if Lennon and Bale get down the wing...happily concede a throw in or corner or even free kick because they can defend it.

Great post, well argued.
Instead of ramping up the pressure on defending teams at set pieces, it's just the same old routine every time, if we can't out muscle them, we should spice it up. It just appears there's a collective failure to engage brain on these occasions.

 

[donny1013]

Very easy for people to sing 'we want you to stay' after we went 4-0 up against Newcastle after 33 minutes, things have definitely soured since then.

 

[Wirral Spurs]

There's a lot of venom being directed at Redknapp at the moment. The mood at the Stoke game was sour, in my opinion. What was the tipping point for people? Was it getting hammered by Arsenal? Or was it being leapfrogged by Arsenal?

Yes the Arsenal game was a low point. For me it was our crowd telling him that Bale plays on the left at the Everton game and the subsequent reaction to it. I thought we had moved on from the weak backbone we have suffered for years but it appears to be back.

I think we will get beaten tomorrow but then we will see if Harry is what he thinks he is.

 

[mpickard2087]

There's a lot of venom being directed at Redknapp at the moment. The mood at the Stoke game was sour, in my opinion. What was the tipping point for people? Was it getting hammered by Arsenal? Or was it being leapfrogged by Arsenal?

I think mainly its that over the last few weeks Harry has made a lot of tactical decisions that the majority disagree with and when you put this next to bad results the frustration just boils over. I think the majority are crying out for us to go back to basics and play the way/formation that we were earlier in the season.

I think the limbo over the England job isnt helping either, just from speaking to mates who are fellow fans the general feeling I get is that people want to support Harry but dont see the point because they believe he is off at the end of the year. Maybe because of this its easier to stick the boot in now that results arent going our way?

Then when you put minor things (in the scheme of things) like terrible setpieces into the mix, which I noticed garnered a lot of groans the other night, this doesnt help either. Various factors causing a lot of dissent atm.

 

[kazzah9]

This is all just to give chelsea a false sense of security... we'll score 5 from corners next match Eek

 

[ItsBoris]

http://www.london24.com/sport/totte...tottenham_s_weakness_at_set_pieces_1_1328413?

Spurs boss speaks out on Tottenham’s weakness at set pieces

By Ben Pearce, Tottenham correspondent
Friday, March 23, 2012
1:01 PM


Harry Redknapp admits that Tottenham are failing to make the most of their set pieces, and concedes that his side’s lack of aerial power is “a problem”.

Spurs have won 205 corners in the Premier League this season – the second-highest number in the top flight – but have mustered just five goals from the ensuing deliveries.

That has been compounded by the fact that the Lilywhites have also conceded important goals from dead ball situations.

Manchester United took the lead at White Hart Lane recently with a Wayne Rooney header from a corner, and Cameron Jerome put Stoke ahead at the Lane on Wednesday night from a Jermaine Pennant free-kick.

Redknapp concedes that set pieces are a weak area for Spurs – and he is expecting a similar problem when Spurs face Chelsea at Stamford Bridge tomorrow.

“If you looked at us the other night against Stoke, we really had two people in our side who were over six foot - Ledley King and Younes Kaboul. We were a small small team. That is a problem,” said Redknapp.

“You look at Chelsea tomorrow and you look at the likely headers of the ball for them. They’ve got some big lads, they will score goals from set plays. [Branislav] Ivanovic is fantastic in the air, then there’s John Terry, David Luiz and Gary Cahill, depending on who plays.

“We’re not a big side and the other night the delivery was poor, which didn’t help. The ball into the box was poor against Stoke - but it’s all about having people who want to get onto the end of that ball as well.

“Certain people will get on the end of it and stick their head on it. It doesn’t matter where the ball arrives in the box, they’ll head it.

“I saw QPR play Blackburn earlier in the season, and every time a corner came in, [Chris] Samba headed the ball. It didn’t matter where the ball ended up, he ended up getting his head on it. He outjumped everybody, he’s an amazing header of the ball.

“We’ve only really got Kaboul who I would say was a great header of the ball, so we need him to get his head on one for us. Other than that we’re short.

“It’s an area we could look to improve. If we could find a couple of 6ft 4ins players who are really good and strong in the air, we would improve.

“But other than that, I think we really have to play short corners. I think we have to try to work the ball because, certainly the other night against Stoke, we were never really going to score by putting the ball into the box.

“They were too big and too strong. They probably had six or seven players who were 6ft 2ins or 6ft 3ins, and really it was a mismatch in terms of heading the ball.”

Meanwhile, Redknapp has hit out at suggestions that Tottenham’s recent dip in form is due to players being distracted by the ongoing speculation about the vacant England manager’s job.

“Absolute nonsense. That is the biggest load of nonsense I’ve ever heard in my life,” said the Spurs manager, who has been widely tipped to take over the Three Lions in the summer.

“They [the players] don’t care whether I’m the manager next year, they wouldn’t lose any sleep over that.

“Footballers are footballers. They play the game, they come in every day and train. ‘The King is dead, long live the King’. That is football.

“They don’t worry ‘oh Harry’s going to England or he’s going to go somewhere else’. It doesn’t happen that way.

“I’ve been in football all my life and it doesn’t happen that way. They don’t think about that.

“I don’t think about it either, it never enters my mind. I don’t think’ oh what’s going to happen to me at the end of the season?’

“Whatever happens to me happens to me, I don’t lose any sleep over it, one way or the other – whether I’m here, somewhere else or nowhere. That’s life.”

Oh my God please tell me he's not that stupid. He doesn't just "get his head on the ball." He is able to head the ball because he knows where to go because they PRACTICE IT IN TRAINING. He knows where the guy taking the corner is going to fucking put it. Sure he can beat a man in the air but that's not why Blackburn score so many from corners. Jesus fucking Christ, he doesn't have a fucking clue. You don't just put the ball in the box and someone heads it ffs. It's about intelligence, catching the opponent off guard.

And anyway, if he was so wise and knew we weren't going to score that way, why didn't he instruct the team to play set pieces on the ground and keep possession.

Oh and lack of height didn't stop VDV scoring from a header - it was just a combination of good movement and a great cross from Bale.

 

[ItsBoris]

He cant say he will take a job he hasnt been approached for.. Give the man a break..

Um...managers do that all the time. Klopp and Mourinho both said they wouldn't take the Chelsea job. Even when coaches DO intend to take the job they keep their mouth shut or say they won't take it because they want to keep their team focused.

Best thing that can happen is Redknapp fucks off and we get Brendan Rodgers in imo. Build a real philosophy and mentality at the club, let England suffer at the hands of Redknapp's bullshit. England won't even make it through the group stage with him.

 

[Hitch]

Oh my God please tell me he's not that stupid. He doesn't just "get his head on the ball." He is able to head the ball because he knows where to go because they PRACTICE IT IN TRAINING. He knows where the guy taking the corner is going to fucking put it. Sure he can beat a man in the air but that's not why Blackburn score so many from corners. Jesus fucking Christ, he doesn't have a fucking clue. You don't just put the ball in the box and someone heads it ffs. It's about intelligence, catching the opponent off guard.

And anyway, if he was so wise and knew we weren't going to score that way, why didn't he instruct the team to play set pieces on the ground and keep possession.

Oh and lack of height didn't stop VDV scoring from a header - it was just a combination of good movement and a great cross from Bale.

This. Even in frustration you articulate it better than I could. I'm far too annoyed to do much more than grumble right now. It's like Harry is trying to prove that he is as simple as many suspect.

And, as I've said previously, I'd bet that the primary reason why we were recently quite strongly interested in Samba was due to Harry thinking that he might nick some goals from set plays for us. Problem solved! As if. Samba would score a lot less for Spurs than he did for Blackburn imo. Our set piece issues are more fundamental than mere size.

 

[ItsBoris]

This. Even in frustration you articulate it better than I could. I'm far too annoyed to do much more than grumble right now. It's like Harry is trying to prove that he is as simple as many suspect.

And, as I've said previously, I'd bet that the primary reason why we were recently quite strongly interested in Samba was due to Harry thinking that he might nick some goals from set plays for us. Problem solved! As if. Samba would score a lot less for Spurs than he did for Blackburn imo. Our set piece issues are more fundamental than mere size.

I'd like to see Redknapp in charge of a basketball team. So HR why did you lose..."Well they're bigger than us, and the hoop is high up there. I watched Lebron James the other night - big lad - and he just always seems to be able to jump up and put it in the basket. That's why you need big lads."

Give me a break.

 

[sim0n]

I think the bottom line is that we're all still 100% Spurs and Harry is in 2 minds dreaming of being honored as England manager,... he's no longer focused on Spurs and everyone knows it. Might have been better that the FA came out and stated that as long as Spurs finish 3rd or higher, then they would approach Redknapp :razz:

All this other BS just makes him dead man walking and has totally unsettled the club as a whole - better than any mind fuq that old red nose could've come up with...