Realistic expectations for 2020-21?

[shelfboy68]

A central midfield with Hojbjerg instead of one or both of Winks and Sissoko will be vastly better than the central midfield we have had to make do with this season. Huge upgrade. Not because Hojbjerg is top, top class. It’s simply that he can do the required job that the other two can’t.

That change alone will greatly enhance our prospects.

Let's hope so, I can't say that I have been overly impressed with his performance's previously, but if we sign him then he will be around some better players so maybe make him better too.
I guess Jose knows what he wants in a DM and if he likes him especially knowing how we are run then hopefully all will be good.

 

[SecretLemonadeDrinker]

great post but I’ve got to ask if you realise what your username means or was it an unfortunate coincidence?

Ha! I had no idea that it has become modern urban slang for a covert class A user! The urban slang itself derives from the 1970’s ads for R Whites Lemonade that my username was chosen for:

 

[John48]

I agree with those that say we can't really say until the TW is done & know what the team looks like.

If we don't buy then I would think we're in for a difficult season.

 

[Havre]

I don't think Højbjerg will be a revolution for us from an individual player point of view, but I remember when Palacios came. He was a much more limited player than Højbjerg, but he changed the whole dynamic of the team in my opinion (for a short spell).

I believe Winks will be better with Højbjerg. Sissoko is not a good partner for Winks. And I believe Højbjerg will suit N'Dombele better than both Winks and Sissoko do. Not to mention that he obviously gives us more options.

I also like Højbjerg's body language. I think his competitiveness will give us a bit more bite again. Again both Winks and N'Dombele I could se stepping up just by Højbjerg's presence next to them.

So in many ways Højbjerg doesn't have to be that good to give us a lift.

 

[hellava_tough]

So the transfer window opens and we're not worried about losing our best players.

Fair play, we've come a long way since the 1990s.

(Yeah, I'm showing my age here lol ).

 

[TheCheeseRoom]

Fair play champions please.

 

[cozzo]

What about Porto, was that a fluke?

What about Real Madrid, Manchester United, Chelsea, Inter Milan bought Milito, Snijder and Eto'o. I am not going to change tune now that he is our manager.

 

[SecretLemonadeDrinker]

What about Real Madrid, Manchester United, Chelsea, Inter Milan bought Milito, Snijder and Eto'o. I am not going to change tune now that he is our manager.

So you’re sticking with the same tune? I’m guessing that it isn’t “Always look on the bright side of life”?

 

[bigpalacios]

What about Real Madrid, Manchester United, Chelsea, Inter Milan bought Milito, Snijder and Eto'o. I am not going to change tune now that he is our manager.

Hes a top manager that earnt the the jobs at top clubs and top clubs spend money but to class him as a chequebook manager is a bit ignorant of the other managerial abilities he has. Hes obviously a top manager as you saw what he did at Porto without a blank chequebook and maybe he wants to prove that again at Spurs, who knows? but lets at least give him a chance to see what he can do before righting him off, I mean what are the other alternatives that are available?

I am by no means a Mourinho fan boy but I think everyone deserves a chance.... apart from Tim Sherwood.

 

[bigpalacios]

You're wasting your time. You'll get a magic reason as to why that doesn't count

You were right

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Well, when you win things you're hardly going to manage clubs like Wigan or Southend are you. The list of clubs he's managed reflects his ability, money or not, to win things. He's not just a manager who buys trophies, that's the clubs, they spent lots of money before he managed them and they carried on spending it after. And as long at they continue throwing money at it, pretty much most of them will carry on winning things too.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

@bigpalacios I'm wasting MY time now

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

One more thing. His being our manager does not guarantee trophies, what it does do however, given the way we operate, is to give us the best possible chance of finally bagging one within the straight jacket supplied by our dear leader. We've got someone with experience, nous and no small amount of ability running the team. But no, fuck that, lets moan about it because we aren't playing the champagne stuff that has won us pretty much fuck all for donkeys years.

 

[dontcallme]

What about Real Madrid, Manchester United, Chelsea, Inter Milan bought Milito, Snijder and Eto'o. I am not going to change tune now that he is our manager.

So when he earnt the opportunity to manage top clubs who gave him top level funds to bring them trophies he should have said "no, I will win without spending?"

 

[wrd]

One more thing. His being our manager does not guarantee trophies, what it does do however, given the way we operate, is to give us the best possible chance of finally bagging one within the straight jacket supplied by our dear leader. We've got someone with experience, nous and no small amount of ability running the team. But no, fuck that, lets moan about it because we aren't playing the champagne stuff that has won us pretty much fuck all for donkeys years.

I really think people are going to be pleasantly surprised by the style once the parts are in place. What I mean is that our transitional attacks will be very exciting and setting the defensive foundations correctly means they'll happen more often. We'll basically be removing the side ways passing which often lead nowhere, giving the other team the ball and pouncing on any mistakes to attack them when they're out of defensive shape.

 

[bigpalacios]

One more thing. His being our manager does not guarantee trophies, what it does do however, given the way we operate, is to give us the best possible chance of finally bagging one within the straight jacket supplied by our dear leader. We've got someone with experience, nous and no small amount of ability running the team. But no, fuck that, lets moan about it because we aren't playing the champagne stuff that has won us pretty much fuck all for donkeys years.

It'd be nice, if those moaning for that reason, kept their great big flappy gums shut when we failed to win stuff under Pochettino. Weren't happy then, aren't happy now, never fucking happy.

Exactly this.

The attractive football that is supposedly synonymous with Spurs has resulted in zero trophies for 12 years whilst that shower of shit down the road just won a trophy. We need bottle, belief and a manager that knows how to get it done. Its all very well the media wanking themselves silly because we play good football but its getting beyond a joke now the lack of silverware over the last 30 odd years.

 

[wrd]

I'm also certainly not one of those who is "Win trophies at any cost" I want to enjoy my football but I think people are underestimating the quality of football we can play in a Jose type system.

As much as I loved Poch one of my frustrations was that we seldom made the post of a transition and we often slowed things down. Not to say we didn't play terrific football at times but I do think the transition is extremely important and is the cornerstone of Liverpool and City's play.

City do play terrific football even when they lose but when I watch Liverpool, they're actually not as enjoyable over the last 18 months to watch as they were previously in terms of all out attacking high energy football. Also If you actually looked at their biggest results vs top teams you'd see they adopt a similar method to Jose in the basic sense of allowing the other team to dominate the ball and hitting them on the break but they are clearly further along than he is. I'll give an example:



They have perfect their press in recent times and they really have perfected not wasting energy with an all out press but instead using certain triggers to begin it, one example I have is pretty recent example with Keita:



Obviously they make it look basic but my point is that most teams would just be pressing the keeper and he'd boot it forward because most teams presses these days boils down to running at the keeper but Liverpool are working a lot more intelligently.

My point is this; I think most will be surprised at the similarities in our play next season compared to how Liverpool approach big games, I'd say the difference between us and them is they're a lot more comfortable also controlling the ball and working from minimal transitions vs smaller teams where as we'll probably give away more possession in those games.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Exactly this.

The attractive football that is supposedly synonymous with Spurs has resulted in zero trophies for 12 years whilst that shower of shit down the road just won a trophy. We need bottle, belief and a manager that knows how to get it done. Its all very well the media wanking themselves silly because we play good football but its getting beyond a joke now the lack of silverware over the last 30 odd years.

TBF, I now regret the great big flappy gums remark, if people want to be habitually unhappy then crack on

 

[wirE]

Realistic is top 4. Nothing else

 

[buckley]

The spurs way is being nearly men and if you want bottle jobs . We have been in untold semi finals and a couple of finals and we have come out with nothing zilch zero f all . There were a few games after lock down that I felt comfortable being in front of teams whereas for a long time whatever the score was I always had the feeling we would concede and put ourselves under pressure .
An example of what mean is the Leicester 3-0 game and although they had more possession and more shots on target and off target I always felt that we were in control and their shots were from distance and those on target I felt Lloris would save comfortably .
It was a nice feeling being able to relax and not have the collywobbles every time the opposition get the ball .
Next year with the players in he wants we will be contenders I am sure .