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Come on guys, it's 10am...we've all had a drink, let's just calm it eh?
That's an amazingly obnoxious response to my critical-but-polite and considered post.
You really are an unpleasant, arrogant ****.
My disrespect for your mentality has now been joined by an intense dislike of you personally. Don't expect further politeness from me next time you open your big, self-justifying, monomanical, observation-averse, insight-free and long-winded gob.
I apologise for the music jibe. It was unnecessary.
But I stand by the rest. You're a pompous, sanctimonious, hypocritical windbag who likes to dish it out but can't take it.
You took a ban for that outburst of spite but I lifted it when I saw this.I apologise for the music jibe. It was unnecessary.
I think we all need some tea and cake.
Wow there Mr LG, lets wind back a little. Bale was not the best attacker outside Messi and Ronaldo before AVB got hold him. That is part of the point.
Where do you get 30 goals from, it was 24 ? yes, Dempsey had had a decent couple of season but in his three previous seasons having played 29,35 & 36 games had managed 6,7,7 league goals (which is what he did with us. Don't try and tell me Dempsey is a better footballer/forward than Lambert, because he isn't. Sigurdson scored 7. And he sure is shit isn't better than Lalana.
AVBdefinitely didn't get "prime" Adebayor, he got Adebayor with no pre-season, then injured, then with the hump because he was told off for wearing a hat.
He didn't have Lamela or Capoue for long did he ? And none of those players had kicked a ball in this country before, most were very young, this must be taken into account.
Ignoring all the what if's and but but but..the fact is we were interested in signing Lovren, Shaw, Lalana, Schneiderlin & Rodriguez. So they can't be too shabby.
Sure, Pochettino may have had a very positive influence on them, I wasn't out to do a hatchet job on the guy, I like his style (have some reservations but fundamentally like).
My over riding point was responding to a poster who said AVB was all about the negative risk aversion and Pochettino was pretty much the reverse.
I merely tried to demonstrate that this was not the case. That players these coach's often inherit, acquire or lose can drastically change this perspective and that there is clear evidence that AVB's goals and points tally (in the EPL with us but also Portugal) don't suggest this to be a truism. But I do believe he operated a more risk averse strategy than Pochettino, I just don't think this is necessarily a bad thing.
Ooooff ... never seen BC so nasty , apologised , but still . A&C made right decision tho imo , we don't want to lose him.
I feel sorry for BC in a way . Its a question of where you live time wise. For me BC lives in the future in his ratings , he's firmly concentrating on our imperfections in the ongoing process of us becoming champions . Even tho we klonked QPR , he prioritises the defeat by Liverpool next match (in his imagination) . It may happen ,it may not , but surely we need to live in the present a leetle bit more and , like the football fans that we are , feel the pleasure and promise of a good performance vs QPR....rather than focussing on the differences between us and Barca in their imperial phase .
We're here for fun right ?
RE the AVB stuff , I agree with the mods and many here , mebbe it is a tad old ...or inappropriate for a Spurs-QPR match rating thread . Start a new thread on it is my advice .
Bruised ego due to his loudly stated convictions being royally and publicly wrecked in 3 games. Lashing out like a cornered mole.
Can we have no hold barred AvB fight thread for people to vent?
I was also well behind AVB, way up to the point (and past it tbh...) when most had lost all confidence in him. But I don't think it was transfer backing that was his downfall, but his stubbornness when it came to tactics. He seemed to be totally deaf and blind to the tactical changes required, instead holding religiously to his imaginary model of the 'perfect' way of playing.AVB was not terrible, neither was he very good at Spurs. I was a fan of AVB after he was appointed (but didn't want him beforehand) hoping his tactical nous would help us adapt against different opposition. Sadly for him, he wasn't backed adequately in the transfer market and neither did his tactics adapt sufficiently to help us cope with teams enjoying their football.
I was also well behind AVB, way up to the point (and past it tbh...) when most had lost all confidence in him. But I don't think it was transfer backing that was his downfall, but his stubbornness when it came to tactics. He seemed to be totally deaf and blind to the tactical changes required, instead holding religiously to his imaginary model of the 'perfect' way of playing.
One of the encouraging things I've seen from Poch in the 1st outings is a bit more flexibility. He's touted as a manager that also wants high pressing, but against West Ham the team sat back a lot more than they would have under AVB - presumably because Poch recognised that the ball over the top was their biggest threat. I think AVB has a vision of a perfect strategy that will always work, whereas Poch (hopefully) understands that he needs to adapt the style depending on the opposition and the players at his disposal.
Could be. I'm not pessimistic but Liverpool have some cracking players in Gerrard, Sterling, Coutinho and are likely to have a lot more possession than QPR...our defensive game which wasn't tested this week will be next week and our midfield will really have to put the work in...I think it'll be a close game but we can't get too carried away after Sunday and it won't surprise me if we come up a bit short...
Bruised ego due to his loudly stated convictions being royally and publicly wrecked in 3 games. Lashing out like a cornered mole.
Can we have no hold barred AvB fight thread for people to vent?
Not as famous as they shouldd be. The British press are notoriously moleist.Are cornered moles famous for lashing out?
Are cornered moles famous for lashing out?