Premier League 2019–?

[spursfan77]

I don't actually think we do. We're already amongst these teams, it's not really a top six anymore, it's a top three and the six or so teams below really. What's more important is just our general form from here on because everyone is dropping points. If any of the teams in contention gain solid consistency then they have a very good chance of gaining that 4th spot.

Of course a win would be great tomorrow, but I'd take a good and promising performance too. The good thing with us is that despite still being short in areas, I personally feel we have more room to grow in this short space than the other teams around us, due to Lo Celso finding his feet and almost being a completely different player, Ndombele returning and almost strangely feeling like a new player, Gedson to be integrated and Bergwijn to come in too.

I see tomorrow as a free hit almost, I feel the pressure is on with the games that will follow.

I 100% agree. I almost feel like things are on the cusp of changing. We are improving little by little. I would of loved us to bring another forward in but I’m very excited to see how Bergwijn comes in and does. I just which he had an easier opening fixture.

I can’t go though as got a family engagement so will catch up on the second half if I get home in time. Shame as I’ve got a good record watching Man City. I think I’ve only even seen us lose once live.

 

[Phomesy]

Why didn't we sign EVERYONE?!

because not everyone absolutely tore us apart - twice - then was sold to wolves for a snip. Nor is everyone got that low centre of gravity and Hazard turn of pace and trickery which is exactly what Mourinho looks for to score goals as opposed to Pochettino's much more structured approach.

You'll notice I didn't bemoan not signing Bruno who, while looking pretty good for United, we already have in Lo Celso.

 

[sausage]

because not everyone absolutely tore us apart - twice - then was sold to wolves for a snip. Nor is everyone got that low centre of gravity and Hazard turn of pace and trickery which is exactly what Mourinho looks for to score goals as opposed to Pochettino's much more structured approach.

You'll notice I didn't bemoan not signing Bruno who, while looking pretty good for United, we already have in Lo Celso.

Podence is 24 and has something like 21 league goals in his entire career... only 12 or so after you discount lower league goals.

Not exactly a track record that suggests he's going "to score goals".

 

[danielneeds]

Podence is 24 and has something like 21 league goals in his entire career... only 12 or so after you discount lower league goals.

Not exactly a track record that suggests he's going "to score goals".

His finishing is probably the reason he ended up on Greece after leaving Sporting. But if Nuno can turn Traore into a productive player then he can do it to anyone.

 

[ajspurs]

I 100% agree. I almost feel like things are on the cusp of changing. We are improving little by little. I would of loved us to bring another forward in but I’m very excited to see how Bergwijn comes in and does. I just which he had an easier opening fixture.

I can’t go though as got a family engagement so will catch up on the second half if I get home in time. Shame as I’ve got a good record watching Man City. I think I’ve only even seen us lose once live.

Yeah I think so too. Unfortunately I think we've shot ourselves in the foot a bit by not getting in a striker but in doing so no one at the club should be surprised if we don't make top 4. I actually feel that with Mourinho we'll have a heightened appeal to players and can still build a much stronger team than we have now for next season even without CL.

Shame you can't be there as our good luck charm Tomorrow is one of those games that I can actually be relaxed watching as I don't expect anything, but if we go 1-0 up that will change and I'll get nervous!

 

[sausage]

His finishing is probably the reason he ended up on Greece after leaving Sporting. But if Nuno can turn Traore into a productive player then he can do it to anyone.

I guess we'll see - I can see why we'd not want to risk another Janssen though. I imagine he's got the potential to be like Josh King - similar record and that (in terms of consistency)

 

[danielneeds]

I guess we'll see - I can see why we'd not want to risk another Janssen though. I imagine he's got the potential to be like Josh King - similar record and that (in terms of consistency)

Nah, any player who can dribble like Podence is gonna be a hell of a lot more useful than a lump like Janssen. We couldn’t get close to him in a lot of the two matches. It’s turning that ability into goals and assists that’s the key.

 

[Cornpattbuck]

Can anyone explain how Jordan Henderson has suddenly become world class this year?!!

 

[tiger666]

Can anyone explain how Jordan Henderson has suddenly become world class this year?!!

He's a very good player, has always been underrated on here.

 

[WhiteStripe]

Can anyone explain how the fuck anyone can still think VAR is a good thing. Inept morons making decisions. Literally every game is showing massive massive errors. Give me back the game before it was brought in. When the odd mistake happened but we got over it.

 

[sausage]

Can anyone explain how the fuck anyone can still think VAR is a good thing. Inept morons making decisions. Literally every game is showing massive massive errors. Give me back the game before it was brought in. When the odd mistake happened but we got over it.

It's done well everywhere else. It's like the FA found a way to make it corrupt by having the VAR ref undermine, rather than assist, the ref.

It'd be the same if the lino could overrule the ref.

 

[WhiteStripe]

It's done well everywhere else. It's like the FA found a way to make it corrupt by having the VAR ref undermine, rather than assist, the ref.

It'd be the same if the lino could overrule the ref.

Not sure about everywhere else. Heard mixed reports. But yeah we are by far the worst at administering it. Too much is checked and far too many subjective decisions still happening. It should not be subjective and if it is it should solely be the infield ref making that subjective decision on the screen. It really really should just be scrapped though. Football was fine before.

 

[sausage]

Not sure about everywhere else. Heard mixed reports. But yeah we are by far the worst at administering it. Too much is checked and far too many subjective decisions still happening. It should not be subjective and if it is it should solely be the infield ref making that subjective decision on the screen. It really really should just be scrapped though. Football was fine before.

I don't think it was fine before. I think as a Spurs fan we have more than enough experience to know it wasn't.

Having VAR, imo, helps take the pressure off the ref but they need to make the final call and be scrutinised on their decisions in those cases.

 

[WhiteStripe]

I don't think it was fine before. I think as a Spurs fan we have more than enough experience to know it wasn't.

Having VAR, imo, helps take the pressure off the ref but they need to make the final call and be scrutinised on their decisions in those cases.

It was fine before. Come on dude, bad decisions happened but we weren't t talking about them every game..... VAR is spoken about almost every game and absolutely ruins the game in the stadium. I'd take the odd mistake vs what we have now.

 

[sausage]

It was fine before. Come on dude, bad decisions happened but we weren't t talking about them every game..... VAR is spoken about almost every game and absolutely ruins the game in the stadium. I'd take the odd mistake vs what we have now.

Having seen us not score goals that were 2 foot over the line, or not get blatant penalties, or having Vertonghen ruled offside in his own half, I can categorically say that it was not fine before.

People used to regularly question refereeing decisions and corruption - the only reason why it wasn't widely discussed in every game was because it was normalised. Managers have always been questioning such things and been punished for them.

How was crap like this "fine before"?

 

[danielneeds]

Can anyone explain how Jordan Henderson has suddenly become world class this year?!!

Buying Fabinho meant he could stop being the defensive midfielder which was never his strongest role. He’s best at doing what he does now, box-to-box, pressing all over and disrupting the opposition.

 

[WhiteStripe]

Having seen us not score goals that were 2 foot over the line, or not get blatant penalties, or having Vertonghen ruled offside in his own half, I can categorically say that it was not fine before.

People used to regularly question refereeing decisions and corruption - the only reason why it wasn't widely discussed in every game was because it was normalised. Managers have always been questioning such things and been punished for them.

How was crap like this "fine before"?

I remember all that and more believe me. Still, I enjoyed football more before VAR was introduced. Other than the ridiculous decisions its corrected it adds nothing. Still 50 shades or grey when it comes to subjectivity. Agree to differ. Stop fucking with our beautiful game.

 

[LeParisien]

Var has been a good thing because it’s reduced the number of errors significantly. That’s a positive however you look at it.

I think some people are negative because they thought it would completely eliminate errors. It hadn’t and it won’t. Doesn’t mean it can’t be better handled.

 

[Marty]

Var has been a good thing because it’s reduced the number of errors significantly. That’s a positive however you look at it.

I think some people are negative because they thought it would completely eliminate errors. It hadn’t and it won’t. Doesn’t mean it can’t be better handled.

Too many people treat VAR as an almighty entity as well. It's a tool, and it will only work properly if administered correctly. I don't trust the current crop of refs in England to do that, the PGMOL and Mike Riley continuously do what is best for the ref and not what is best for the game.

 

[spursfan77]

All three goals West Ham concedes were hilarious. I thought the third was handball initially, I hate var but that’s what it’s for, it hit Murray’s side.