Pochettino wins pre-season guarantees from Daniel Levy

[jambreck]

That's not the point, no one has said it is, and no one has said they are anti playing exciting football, but winning is should be the priority, and we shouldn't be burdening a manager with the (bullshit) spurs way expectation, and entertainment is subjective anyway.

The irony is, most of those that prattle on about the Spurs Way are the first to get apoplectic with indignation and start haemorrhaging relegation threads and Levy out petitions as soon as we lose a couple of games.

And no one has said that they are anti having a solid defence or that winning shouldn't be the priority.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

You specifically mentioned Modric & Bale, therefore I wasn't being selective, I was using your examples.

The top class players that we have sold in recent years were either to Real Madrid or Man United. We would need to win some serious shit to have been attractive enough to retain those players in the face of offers from 2 of the biggest clubs in the world (at the time)!

We all want to keep our best players but the reality is that all clubs are selling clubs, with the exception of the oligarch-owned mega rich and Real Madrid.

Therefore the 'Spurs Way" needs to change if we want success in order to keep our top players which is what BC was suggesting.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Doesn't necessarily make Mr Levy a bad person :-D




But Gaz, and you could I guess add Berba to that list - maybe with the exception of Carrick, they all didn't want to be at THFC, did they? And Kane has said what in actual fact? The complete opposite. I think Harry will be here at least 3 seasons before anything like what you suggest would even surface, let alone happen.

How long was Bale here for?

Kane will go, not unlike Bale his head will be turned.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

But Levy isn't hanging it around Poch's neck; it actually - funnily enough - happens to be what poch does and is all about.

The good thing is that when poch has the tools he requires he will largely carry it out in a methodical way and not balls to the wind.

You're raging in a vacuum.

It was a bit balls to the wind at Southampton though wasn't it. We beat them 3-2 twice, one game they were leading 2-0.

And I'm not sure things improved with time at Espanyol did they ?

I'm not anti the philosophy of Pochettino, far from it, and I'm all for giving him time, but I do remain to be convinced that the bloke can deliver the full package, but I definitely don't want him encumbered with some bullshit onus to titivate the unwashed with thrills and spills galore.

 

[Lilbaz]

Therefore the 'Spurs Way" needs to change if we want success in order to keep our top players which is what BC was suggesting.

What is your definition of "the Spurs Way"? The Spurs Way for me was winning trophies with attractive attacking football. We won the double and numerous cups with it. The 90's and naughties were not "the Spurs Way" the nearest we came to it was with Harry, Luka, Gareth, Ledley and VDV.

 

[jambreck]

How long was Bale here for?

Kane will go, not unlike Bale his head will be turned.

Bale was a Real Madrid fan as a kid.

Kane is a Spurs fan.

Big difference.

Kane's head might eventually be turned - especially if Spurs can't offer him Champions League football - but it won't be for a few seasons yet. And maybe not at all if we come good.

 

[jambreck]

It was a bit balls to the wind at Southampton though wasn't it. We beat them 3-2 twice, one game they were leading 2-0.

And I'm not sure things improved with time at Espanyol did they ?

I'm not anti the philosophy of Pochettino, far from it, and I'm all for giving him time, but I do remain to be convinced that the bloke can deliver the full package, but I definitely don't want him encumbered with some bullshit onus to titivate the unwashed with thrills and spills galore.

The "unwashed"??

Sneering at fellow Spurs fans from your ivory tower?

Way to go.

 

[mill]

It was a bit balls to the wind at Southampton though wasn't it. We beat them 3-2 twice, one game they were leading 2-0.

And I'm not sure things improved with time at Espanyol did they ?

I'm not anti the philosophy of Pochettino, far from it, and I'm all for giving him time, but I do remain to be convinced that the bloke can deliver the full package, but I definitely don't want him encumbered with some bullshit onus to titivate the unwashed with thrills and spills galore.

'Unwashed'? you're pathetic, did you develop Stockholm syndrome under AVB or something?

 

[thinktank]

It was a bit balls to the wind at Southampton though wasn't it. We beat them 3-2 twice, one game they were leading 2-0.

And I'm not sure things improved with time at Espanyol did they ?

I'm not anti the philosophy of Pochettino, far from it, and I'm all for giving him time, but I do remain to be convinced that the bloke can deliver the full package, but I definitely don't want him encumbered with some bullshit onus to titivate the unwashed with thrills and spills galore.

http://talksport.com/football/why-s...nce-man-united-and-arsenal-season-13102465306
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/oct/27/southampton-fulham-premier-league-match-report
http://metro.co.uk/2014/05/04/southamptons-defence-are-mauricio-pochettinos-unsung-heroes-4718058/

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Bale was a Real Madrid fan as a kid.

Kane is a Spurs fan.

Big difference.

Kane's head might eventually be turned - especially if Spurs can't offer him Champions League football - but it won't be for a few seasons yet. And maybe not at all if we come good.

Also chances are if he's banging in goals as freely as he is this season we'll probably have a few seasons in the Champions League anyway.

 

[cornelius knob]

Best chairman in the league.

Oh for Heavens sake. A chairman who consistently sells our best players, a chairman who consistently fails to back the manager whom he himself appoints, a chairman who only appointed Pochetinno because of his ability to bring young players through the system to save him spending any money. A chairman who has talked about a new stadium for 15 years and has still failed to deliver. A chairman who claims to have the local community interests at heart, yet attempted to re-locate the club to Stratford. A chairman who charges the second highest average ticket prices while refusing to place any net investment in the playing squad. A chairman who will sell any player if the price is right. Probably Hugo Lloris this summer. A chairman under whose direction we have had the most barren trophy spell since the second world war. A chairman who talks about mythical special relationships to placate the fans.And finally, a chairman who has given us a reputation as a top selling club.
Best chairman in the league ? Pass the bucket Now !

 

[cornelius knob]

I disagree. I liked the first bit about having a top to bottom philosophy, great, but the silly shit about playing entertaining football is just fucking Spursy nonsense. Like we've spent the last 20 years entertaining. I want a Spurs team who's goal is to win not entertain.

I agree. And I also want a Tottenham Hotspur who`s main objection is to compete on the pitch, not make money off it

 

[cornelius knob]

. There is a sea change in the way things are done and the successes are already obvious in Kane, Bentaleb, Mason, Rose and Townsend.

But should all these young players prosper and bloom into a team capable of winning and competing at the top, do you really think Levy will not hesitate to sell the cream off when the opportunity arises, starting the whole cycle of mediocrity off again.

 

[JerryGarcia]

But should all these young players prosper and bloom into a team capable of winning and competing at the top, do you really think Levy will not hesitate to sell the cream off when the opportunity arises, starting the whole cycle of mediocrity off again.

Your avatar looks a lot like a Chelsea badge on a small screen or in the notification pop up. Just thought I'd give you fair warning

 

[benski]

Your avatar looks a lot like a Chelsea badge on a small screen or in the notification pop up. Just thought I'd give you fair warning

If I were him my priority would be removing all that sand from his vagina it's really making him cranky

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

What is your definition of "the Spurs Way"? The Spurs Way for me was winning trophies with attractive attacking football. We won the double and numerous cups with it. The 90's and naughties were not "the Spurs Way" the nearest we came to it was with Harry, Luka, Gareth, Ledley and VDV.

Not so. My fifth season as a season as a season ticket holder, (and been once ever since). After Burkenshaw, Pleat's period as manager runs just about as good as it got and has been ever since.

In May 1986, Pleat was appointed manager of Tottenham Hotspur, one of the biggest clubs in England. He brought along with him from Luton Mitchell Thomas. His earliest changes at the club were to bring in Nico Claesen and Richard Gough, the latter of whom he paired with Gary Mabbutt in defence, moving Paul Allen into midfield.[4] During his only full season as manager, Tottenham Hotspur reached third place in the First Division, reached the FA Cup final, and the semi-final of the Football League Cup in the 1986–87 season. Glenn Moore, writing in The Independent in 1995, described the play during Pleat's stint as manager of Spurs as "some of the best attacking football of the last two decades".

 

[Lilbaz]

Not so. My fifth season as a season as a season ticket holder, (and been once ever since). After Burkenshaw, Pleat's period as manager runs just about as good as it got and has been ever since.

Venables team was up there as well. 3rd in the league and FA Cup.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

I agree. And I also want a Tottenham Hotspur who`s main objection is to compete on the pitch, not make money off it

As a business we generally make very little profit.

 

[lukespurs7]

i find it worrying that you can't see beyond these statements to what is actually happening at every level of the club. There is a sea change in the way things are done and the successes are already obvious in Kane, Bentaleb, Mason, Rose and Townsend.

Agreed. Barca did this with their academy overhaul based on Cruyffs philosophy.

Obviously we are unlikely to reach those lofty heights but this approach should at least benefit us by giving us a clear structure,an entertaining playing philosophy and some youth players breaking through saving us money on transfers and giving us an identity.

For those reasons,weather levy has dressed his statement up or not, I'm pleased.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

http://talksport.com/football/why-s...nce-man-united-and-arsenal-season-13102465306
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/oct/27/southampton-fulham-premier-league-match-report
http://metro.co.uk/2014/05/04/southamptons-defence-are-mauricio-pochettinos-unsung-heroes-4718058/

I love the rhetoric:

"The first line of defence when we don't have the ball is Rickie Lambert, so we are all defending at the same time, wanting to keep possession and when we don't have it we are crazy to get it back," Pochettino said. "It is all about the collective work."


Just wish we'd seen more of that, and picking players who are not conducive to it doesn't help.

Which brings us back to "attacking entertaining football the Spurs Way" and the directive placed on his shoulders from above and selecting people like Townsend and Chadli.