Poch: In or Out? - You CAN change your vote

[JCRD]

I actually can’t believe 55% of people want him to stay.

I love a bit of deluded, misplaced and baseless optimism but fuck me.

Our last three league finishes have been 2nd, 3rd and 4th.

This season, I imagine 5th or below as things stand.

He had a two year honeymoon period when he joined the club and the steady decline has been happening ever since, with the last 12 months being complete and utter dross.

Any notion that he’s the man to turn this around is a delusion you’ve come up with yourself because there is zero evidence to back it.

Ok so say we get someone in - firstly who? secondly what are they going to do with a bunch of fuckers who know they will en dup leaving in a few months time i.e. Rose, CE, Verts, Toby, Aurier

It is optimism that some want to stay with Poch, im one of them but could it not also be having faith in him to turn it around and the loyalty? Then again i contradict myself again because the fucker has annoyed me with his press conferences in the past particularly when it came to Manure and RM

 

[Mr Pink]

A gradual progression over fifteen years which began with Martin Jol and continued through Harry Redknapp and AVB.

Let’s not start the ridiculous revisionist nonsense of acting like there was nothing between Christian Gross leaving and Poch arriving, please.

I respect how well Poch did at first. I also refuse to be blind to a disastrous 12 months which he has been in control of.

If you think he can take us any further than he already has, I think you’re lying to yourself.

I didn't start any revisionist nonsense. I know there was a steady progression before Poch came in.

Since the turn of the year we've been on the decline, for many probable reasons.

I don't know if he can take us any further, but one thing I do know - I never imagined us in a CL final, period. Did you, honestly?

So the who fuck knows what he's capable of doing in respect of turning this around.

He's clearly not a great tactician and his strength lies in man management and inspiring, so let's see.

If he doesn't want to be here and is waiting to get sacked or approached by someone else that's a different matter all together.

But a bit more respect wouldnt go a miss.

 

[bubble07]

Can't believe the numbers.

Have people lost the plot?

We've been playing pretty well, we hit the post at Arsenal which would have killed the game. VAR ruled out a goal at Leicester which would have capped off an almost certain impressive away win.

We played well tonight for the first 30. Tonight was a freak result, everything Bayern hit went in.

Except for the 8 that didn't

 

[DomXYZ]

give him the rest of the season but out by summer

 

[sausage]

To a large extent, the players.

Not so much in the context.

Those players have worked hard and committed, and since the United job started speculation, all we've heard from Poch is the various permutations in which he could leave, win or lose, present or future.


Not really surprising if that's lost them.

 

[chinaman]

When he doesn't play the youths, he's condemned. When he plays the like of KWP, and Winks, he's second guessed that they are not good enough. I just can't believe this Poch bashing.

 

[bubble07]

Stay.

He does piss me off with his complaints and threats to leave, and random tactical decisions, but sometimes you need to take a step back and see the bigger picture.

We’re complaining about a spanking in the CL. A tournament we were begging to get into, and one in which we reached the bloody final under him only a few months ago.

We’ve got injuries and players out of form. Contract disputes and the inevitable comedown atmosphere after coming so close to glory. Keep the faith. At this point there’s about as much risk hoping he can turn things around as banking on some new manager to reach his previous achievements.

We had 2 players unavailable through injury

 

[Spurger King]

At the time of writing, 52.6% want him to stay, and 47.4% want him to leave. Pretty sure that current social guidelines mean that the ‘will of the people’ is clear. The natural next step is to give Pochettino free reign to do whatever he wants, and completely ignore the 47.4% who dare to raise objections.

 

[Spurger King]

We had 2 players unavailable through injury

Two out of three players Pochettino believed could improve the squad. Unless Sessegnon is suspended, in which case Foyth would still be a massive upgrade on Aurier.

 

[Sandros Shiny Head]

At the time of writing, 52.6% want him to stay, and 47.4% want him to leave. Pretty sure that current social guidelines mean that the ‘will of the people’ is clear. The natural next step is to give Pochettino free reign to do whatever he wants, and completely ignore the 47.4% who dare to raise objections.

And losing a vote means we’re obliged to keep voting until the outcome agrees with my view

 

[TheBlueRooster]

At the end of the day he is the manager, Head coach, whatever you want to call him and he's been found out. He doesn't seem to have a way to bring the best out of the players or how to change the way we play to close out a game.

Fuck me we have been told by him "we have to move on and prepare ourselves for Brighton"

Part of the problems are Levy's transfer dealings, rather than getting deals done early he tries to wait to get a things on the cheap. In the last two years apart from Lucas I have yet to see a player we've signed that's any good.

 

[eddiev14]

We’re not paying for our activity in the last transfer window, but for the two previous ones where the club did nothing.

You can’t sell 10 players and bring in another 10 new ones in a single window. You need to constantly succession plan, employ excellent talent identification and be utterly ruthless when you have players angling for a move or running down their contract.

Poch has done his best to manage the situation but the club have made bad calls on the one hand, and sat on their heels on the other.

For example, we panicked and identified a crap player to replace Walker, and have subsequently let our best centre halves and left back age and/or become disinterested. We also then sat on our heels while Leicester signed James Maddison, who should have been our succession plan for Eriksen 18 months ago.

We now have a situation where 6-7 players are either below par or did not expect to still be at the club, and therefore don’t give a shit.

It‘s on Levy and the board. Fuck knows where we go from here. January is a long way away...

 

[Spurger King]

And losing a vote means we’re obliged to keep voting until the outcome agrees with my view

Nope. Just means the fact that opinions on Pochettino are heavily divided can just be completely dismissed because of a fine margin. Clearly anyone not supporting Pochettino isn’t a Spurs fan (or so current rhetoric would have us believe).

The Spurs fans have spoken. If you’re opposed to Pochettino you’re clearly a traitor to the club. No further questions.

(Thank God we don’t live in such a despicable world).

 

[Spurus]

It’s not about wishful thinking. This is one of those rare occasions where if he’s lost the dressing room I blame the players instead of the manager. At the very least let him work with the new signings that are currently injured.

Any good manager worth his salt only sees things his way. He’s delivered consistent CL qualification, including a CL final. The easy thing is to roll the dice. Yes it was an embarrassing defeat to Bayern, but he deserves the right to see out the season. If he hasn’t turned it around by then, then fair enough.

It's not just the defeat from tonight though, Poch's issues has been an ongoing problem for a long time, I do however agree with you about putting the blame on some of the players, especially Eriksen, how do you think the new players are reacting to all that is going on deep inside? As things stand, things are progressively getting worse, not better. We are in a bad place right now and I feel like time is something we don't have, the club needs a fresh start with new management, because it's only a matter of time before more players create a mutiny against Poch.

 

[TheBlueRooster]

Two out of three players Pochettino believed could improve the squad. Unless Sessegnon is suspended, in which case Foyth would still be a massive upgrade on Aurier.

My cat would be an upgrade on Aurier,and he's asleep. The guy wouldn't get into our local Boy Scouts team.

 

[kcmei]

Need need to step up to another level. He has to go

 

[Spurger King]

My cat would be an upgrade on Aurier,and he's asleep. The guy wouldn't get into our local Boy Scouts team.

Empty space would be an upgrade on Aurier. The walking red card shouldn’t be anywhere near the first team.

Your cat any good at crosses?

 

[Spurs 1961]

Stay and be allowed to radically change the team. That means paying off people's contracts or letting them go ASAP for low fees so we clear out those who don't want to be part of the next few years.

 

[Primativ]

Poch has earned the right to rebuild, even if we don't finish in CL positions this year he still stays.

It might mean that this season is inconsistent and has a range of results.

First things first though, sort the defence and its protection ahead of it.

You've got to be joking. He's tactically inept. He doesn't earn the right to rebuild when we have been so poor for so long.

 

[McFlash]

Stay. Bayern were magnificent, anyone wanting him sacked after this result needs to step back.

We played well against Southampton and won with fighting spirit. We were brilliant for the first 30 minutes tonight but ran out of steam.

The squad needs help in January - we need to find a new Sandro, a proper machine/beast/dynamic DM to cover the back four. We need two new top full-backs.

He can turn this around but he needs help from the fans and from the board.

We shouldn't be running out of steam at 30 mins ffs.
We played well til they got their second, went in at half time, Poch worked his motivational and tactical magic, then we capitulated.

The problem is that we all know what's wrong but Poch doesn't, or at least, doesn't want to. That leads me to the conclusion that he can't, or won't be able to, fix it.