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codspur

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I am sure Yves will want that number 8 as it is his current number and his brand.
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It is currently occupied by Winks and while he is linked away from the club if Harry doesn't move on it could get awkward with us unceremoniously taking it from him anyway.
We all know his number should have been 40...club shop could have banged out loads of Pyjamas
 

Nerine

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I’m sure we could give Winky number 73 or something like that.
No problem.
 

Nick-TopSpursMan

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Sooo…we’ve got 4 Defensive Midfielders and…Winks…

Yep, 4 good quality DMs competing for 2 very specific DM slots in Conte's 3-4-3 system.

People need to get over this 'Argh but there's no creative midfielder!' as the creativity comes from the wingbacks and forwards in Conte's 3-4-3.

Adding Eriksen would mean we have the option of also going 3-5-2 when needed.
 

dtxspurs

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Yep, 4 good quality DMs competing for 2 very specific DM slots in Conte's 3-4-3 system.

People need to get over this 'Argh but there's no creative midfielder!' as the creativity comes from the wingbacks and forwards in Conte's 3-4-3.

Adding Eriksen would mean we have the option of also going 3-5-2 when needed.
Bingo... Conte won the league playing Matic & Kante every game.

Kante had 1 assist that season. Matic had 7 oddly (hes' never posted another season with more than 4). But I think Bentancur over a full season could achieve that.
 

synththfc

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Bingo... Conte won the league playing Matic & Kante every game.

Kante had 1 assist that season. Matic had 7 oddly (hes' never posted another season with more than 4). But I think Bentancur over a full season could achieve that.
bentancur and matic’s profiles are eerily similar. tall, tidy DMs who can stretch the play with accurate diagonals, keep things ticking, are aggressive and are strong in the tackle
 

markt

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Tbh paying over £30m for a player with only a year left on his contract and no experience of Champions League football would be ridiculous.
Certainly not unheard of, but I hadn't realised he was in last year of his contract. That will explain a lot and I guess an opportune time to go after him.

Either way the business we are conducting so far is very promising.
 

markt

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The attacking areas for conte with how he lines the team up are the wing backs and the front 3, with a CM getting forward at times (but job is more to break the play up when we don't have the ball)

Winks won't play much this season or will be sold/loaned out, so having those 4 if we we get them will give us a good squad rotation.

I think conte said last season he plays the main team mostly as he looked at the bench and didn't have many options to change a game! Probably only one or two players he seemed to like/trust to come o.
Agree, we will have much better options to rotate or bring on in games if we need to change it.

It is why Perisic and Spence are important signings too, to offer more attacking threat from wing back. Hopefully Doherty can pick up where he left off too, before his injury.
 

Huddlebone

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I believe Conte wants someone that is able to play the Brozovic role, which Winks has clearly not been good enough to do so. Bissouma has many similar strengths as Brozivic with the most essential being both having legs like Bekele. He can sometimes be a bit sloppy with his passes but I can see with Conte constantly reminding him there will not be a problem.
 

Snarfalicious

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Bingo... Conte won the league playing Matic & Kante every game.

Kante had 1 assist that season. Matic had 7 oddly (hes' never posted another season with more than 4). But I think Bentancur over a full season could achieve that.

So you’re saying we are going to win the league. I like your post.
 

chrisd2k

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Yep, 4 good quality DMs competing for 2 very specific DM slots in Conte's 3-4-3 system.

People need to get over this 'Argh but there's no creative midfielder!' as the creativity comes from the wingbacks and forwards in Conte's 3-4-3.

Adding Eriksen would mean we have the option of also going 3-5-2 when needed.
Yep. I wouldn't mind seeing Deki experimenting in that role also. Would need work but he has a lot of the attributes to make it work.
 

THOWIG

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I believe Conte wants someone that is able to play the Brozovic role, which Winks has clearly not been good enough to do so. Bissouma has many similar strengths as Brozivic with the most essential being both having legs like Bekele. He can sometimes be a bit sloppy with his passes but I can see with Conte constantly reminding him there will not be a problem.

I still think a Brozovic type player is needed.
 

AtoubaToothpaste

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If this goes through, I wouldn't be surprised if Yves has as much impact as Dembele did for us in CM. Aside from Phillips, he was the one CM I wanted the most in the transfer window. If it happens, we'll have a top-4-rated CM depth for the first time in many years.
 

chas vs dave

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If this goes through, I wouldn't be surprised if Yves has as much impact as Dembele did for us in CM. Aside from Phillips, he was the one CM I wanted the most in the transfer window. If it happens, we'll have a top-4-rated CM depth for the first time in many years.
Let's not go overboard.

Dembele was a complete freak of nature. I've not seen a player like him.

I'm not sure a similar player exists.
 

WiganSpur

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Bingo... Conte won the league playing Matic & Kante every game.

Kante had 1 assist that season. Matic had 7 oddly (hes' never posted another season with more than 4). But I think Bentancur over a full season could achieve that.
I see a lot of similarities in Bentancur and Bissouma. Think that will be the preferred pair.
 

walworthyid

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Yep, 4 good quality DMs competing for 2 very specific DM slots in Conte's 3-4-3 system.

People need to get over this 'Argh but there's no creative midfielder!' as the creativity comes from the wingbacks and forwards in Conte's 3-4-3.

Adding Eriksen would mean we have the option of also going 3-5-2 when needed.
I dont really agree with this logic at all. What you, and others, are saying is that because of Conte's system we don't need players in central midfield who can be creative with the ball because the creativity comes from the wingback?

Surely he wants the creativity to come from everywhere on the pitch? The structure of our play and formation is something very different. Yes, the way we play gives the fullbacks the space to cross and shoot, that isn't creativity.

Creativity is the ability to see a pass, beat a player, resist being pressed to create overloads, spot a run, make space for others with your own movement etc

I reckon that Conte would want players who can create opportunities everywhere on the pitch as long as they can perform their core functions within his system.
 

AtoubaToothpaste

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Let's not go overboard.

Dembele was a complete freak of nature. I've not seen a player like him.

I'm not sure a similar player exists.
I love Dembele, but there is a trend to slightly (and only slightly) exaggerate how good he was. And his first couple of seasons weren't much to write home about. It took him a while to ultimately become the Dembele we all loved. I think Bissouma definitely has the potential to be that in a few year's time. But as with everything, time will tell :)
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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I still think a Brozovic type player is needed.

I personally think Bentancour can play this role. He had is best season at Juve under Sarri playing as a regista (basically what Sarri signed Jorginho to do for him at Chelsea).
 
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