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vegassd

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I've been following the thread and there is contrasting information. On the one hand, it's Sporting who have moved the goalposts, on the other hand it sounds like we verbally agreed to pay the cost of financing and have now reneged.

For Levy not being involved, I take that as he's not directly involved - but he will have set the parameters for the intermediaries, obviously they wouldn't have carte blanche and nobody would expect them to. My suspicion is that the parameters set are very tight - which would seem to be supported by the <£3m quibble on which the deal now appears to hang.

In the end, whatever does or doesn't happen with this particular deal, there seems to be a critical problem at the club in terms of strategic direction, this transfer window is a symptom of that. It was encouraging to read that we have 'realised that plan b/c/d doesn't cut it, doesn't improve the quality of the squad' - that is very welcome, but you then really do have to go out and get your plan a.

The two extremes are Chelsea, who will happily go out and overpay to get the players they want, and Brighton, who are smarter operators with a fully integrated club structure, who plan and recruit coherently with great success in replacing the players/manager when poached. Whereas we seem to be caught between two stools, strategically incoherent, flitting from one approach to another, lacking courage to stick to a defined plan (assuming we have one), failing to commit to a direction and often panic buying as a result.

Ultimately, when you're the leader of the organisation then final responsibility rests with you - you hire the intermediaries, the sporting director, the manager, sign the players etc. Not directly necessarily, but as the figurehead they are seen as your decisions. As it should be.

To the poster above, you said 'read the thread'. To Levy I might say 'read the room'.

That's why there's so much frustration at the moment - we don't know what we are trying to be, and I fear Levy doesn't either.
That's the way to write an anti-Levy post! Like you say, there are long-held misgivings around strategy so it's understandable to a degree (but still amusing).

Going on the past 12 months alone, we moved very quickly in the Summer but waited until late on last January. Maybe that has become the new MO? And perhaps it makes sense due to the difficulties of January transfers, plus the players having to adjust mid-season? Not ideal, but I could see some reasoning behind it.

Regarding Porro, I do think that if we want to be a properly elite club then we would pull the trigger early on somebody like him. However, that might mean that all other business is finished for the window. This approach would work if we had a stronger overall squad, but maybe whilst we are working towards that squad the club feel we can't focus completely on quality over quantity - at least not in a January window. That's just an opinion.

We still have a number of players who will need shifting at some point (Ndombele etc.) so it doesn't surprise me the squad planning has to delve deeper than just buy, buy, buy. If/when the squad is stronger we might view Porro as the expected business and someone like Danjuma as a bit of a cherry on the cake. Unfortunately I think we are facing too many holes to fill for a transfer like this to become matter of fact.
 

spanners

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So, plan 'A' might have say 3 positions to fill each in order of their own importance to Conte. Porro could well be a first choice in plan 'A' but filling the least important position that needs upgrading to Conte within plan 'A'. Is this correct?
 

olliec

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This club will never be able to blossom as long as levy is there, and it hurts to see all our rivals significantly strengthen as well.
 

kieranfitchett

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Also interesting ornstein the only journo to say Porro to THFC is completely off rather than just a bump in the road but not dead yet, and then have an exclusive about cancelo leaving city hours later. This would be peak spurs
 

Procter

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If man city jump in and activate the buyback clause at least we have the satisfaction that sporting will not get any where near the money they could of had off us
 

neogenisis

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spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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The cancelo news is exactly why you can’t write anything off in the last days of the window. I bet it has nothing to do with Porro at all but I get the pant wetting.

Let’s wait and see what happens in the next 48 hours. At this point last year the press hadn’t picked up we were in for bentancur. So much can change.
 

Karol

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If City want Porro to replace Cancelo why would Sporting faff about with wanting an extra 2.6m as an excuse or stall for time?

Surely they would just call our deal off and let City sign him
 

double0

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Aug 29, 2006
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Most the stuff posted by ITK or people like that say sporting moved the price. Kinda an easy one to see why
They moved the price? wasn't it about a £2.5m lease fee payment that Tottenham set up.
 

arunspurs

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Aug 31, 2012
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I guess, we are the only commercially well off club in world , where a player deal is stopped by admin fees. If its other big club, we wont even know we have to pay admin fees.

I get that Sporting are changing terms but why always us that look like a fool.

Not one transfer window goes by, without us being the laughing stock.
 

C-oops

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Maybe city will buy him and sell him to us straight away. Money for doing absolutely nothing.
 

jpascavitz

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Maybe city will buy him and sell him to us straight away. Money for doing absolutely nothing.

I believe they already are getting a decent fee from the sell on clause with our deal for doing absolutely nothing.

I'm not sure what the work to profit benefit is but I feel is if they wanted to do that they would have already done so this month.
 

Japhet

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If City want Porro to replace Cancelo why would Porto faff about with wanting an extra 2.6m as an excuse or stall for time?

Surely they would just call our deal off and let City sign him

If Porto can get 2.6m out of it they're doing very well being as he's a Sporting Lisbon player.
 
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