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sidford

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Genuine answer

"that's how we roll"
Grand stuff it's not just me so.

While I'm not at all surprised at Levy I am at Paratici as he's meant to be the one with some vision and squad building skills.

The joys of this club
 

ukdy

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Genuine Q, it's not just me that has this concern or am I way off here?! If no one else thinks it then grand I'm obviously wrong but I'm just not seeing the logic here. Danjuma I completely get as he's a cheap loan and if Porro was a top RB I could see it as chances are next season he'll be playing for a manager who plays 4 at the back.
Unfortunately as a club we’ve run out of plutonium to power the Time Machine and look who the next manager might be, so we can buy his players now and piss off our current manager..

Unless. Unless, some of these players can play in… DIFFERENT positions!?
 

Now it's Spursonal

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According to transfermarket his average position is RM. Do we have anyone on here who watches him regularly? How good is he at RB? With Conte unlikely to stay just trying to understand why we are still signing a player who appears perfect for RWB but odds are the next manager we appoint won't play with wingbacks
Full backs like Udogie & Porro would suit managers like Marcelo Gallardo, Ruben Amorim, Pochettino like a glove.

Truly hope Conte stays, but if it’s known that he’s leaving (as Hercules has said) I believe these would likely be some of our managing targets.

And in that scenario I don’t think it would be out of the realms of possibility that we’ve had a quick word with them sounding them out for the job and on Porro.
 

Nick-TopSpursMan

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Porro has played right back in his career though. I really don’t see how him being such a good wing back will stop him being a good attacking rb under a different manager. From when I’ve seen him play he has more defensive awareness than someone like Trippier for example.

Agree with this. If we move to a Pool style 433 for example, we’d have 3 all round energetic CMs covering the gaps that the fullbacks leave as they bomb forward.

Similar with a Poch style 4231. The double pivot would plug the gaps.
 

cider spurs

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Full backs like Udogie & Porro would suit managers like Marcelo Gallardo, Ruben Amorim, Pochettino like a glove.

Truly hope Conte stays, but if it’s known that he’s leaving (as Hercules has said
) I believe these would likely be some of our managing targets.

And in that scenario I don’t think it would be out of the realms of possibility that we’ve had a quick word with them sounding them out for the job and on Porro.

He didn't actually say that did he. o_O

Thought it was he'd be shocked if Conte were to sign a new contract
 

The Scarecrow

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Full backs like Udogie & Porro would suit managers like Marcelo Gallardo, Ruben Amorim, Pochettino like a glove.

Truly hope Conte stays, but if it’s known that he’s leaving (as Hercules has said) I believe these would likely be some of our managing targets.

And in that scenario I don’t think it would be out of the realms of possibility that we’ve had a quick word with them sounding them out for the job and on Porro.
They're both modern full backs. I'm not sure where this obsession with wing backs has come from. Most of the best full backs in the world are better at attacking than they are at defending, and most of them play and have played in a back four.
 

Cel

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They're both modern full backs. I'm not sure where this obsession with wing backs has come from. Most of the best full backs in the world are better at attacking than they are at defending, and most of them play and have played in a back four.
The forums just in a spiral at the moment, where (rightly, in the main) it doesn't want to be happy as it wants rid of Baldy. That does mean though, people are searching for reasons why even the odd bit of good news, is actually bad news :(
 

worcestersauce

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Well if he's a wing back and we end up playing full back it's just the reverse of what we've got now where we play a wing back system without proper wing backs.
That said we played attacking full backs in a back four in probably our best defence in decades.
He's good enough for us either way so I don't see what the problem is.
Hopefully we get this done today.
 

Cel

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Well if he's a wing back and we end up playing full back it's just the reverse of what we've got now where we play a wing back system without proper wing backs.
That said we played attacking full backs in a back four in probably our best defence in decades.
He's good enough for us either way so I don't see what the problem is.
Hopefully we get this done today.
Yea, there's also option 2) we bring in a manager who uses wingbacks, or 3) Conte stays too.
 

Timberwolf

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We'll sell Royal, bring in a back 4 manager to replace Conte and within weeks everyone will be like

"FFS Porro... at least Royal could defend!"
 

SpartanSpur

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They're both modern full backs. I'm not sure where this obsession with wing backs has come from. Most of the best full backs in the world are better at attacking than they are at defending, and most of them play and have played in a back four.

Agreed - it's hardly like he's a converted forward type like Victor Moses or what we were considering with Adama Traore.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Porro has played right back in his career though. I really don’t see how him being such a good wing back will stop him being a good attacking rb under a different manager. From when I’ve seen him play he has more defensive awareness than someone like Trippier for example.
Just like the reverse with Emerson RB & RWB are actually very different positions to play and have very different requirements. That’s not to say that no RB’s are able to play RWB and vice versa but if conte is going and we are getting a back 4 manager this summer then it’s a legitimate concern if we are spending £40+ mil on a specialist RWB, will/can he be effective as an attacking RB or is he only good as a RWB.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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According to transfermarket his average position is RM. Do we have anyone on here who watches him regularly? How good is he at RB? With Conte unlikely to stay just trying to understand why we are still signing a player who appears perfect for RWB but odds are the next manager we appoint won't play with wingbacks
Yea very good Q. I’ve only seen him in the CL really not much of a Portuguese football league expert but would love for someone to give more details as to if he’s played RB back as you say RWB & RB are very different positions and if our next manager I’d likely to use a back4 then would be good to know if Porro is any good at RB or not.

Maybe people who’ve not played to a decent level don’t understand this but they’re very different positions to play and require different positioning and attributes. Some RB’s can play RWB and vice versa but some can’t or take a long time to adapt so if we are spending that much on him with the potential of our manager leaving this summer then you’re right it’s a very valid Q.

This is the pro and con of backing conte, good if we are but possible issues down the road if he’s not staying longer term and we have signed specialist players for a 3-4-3.
 

SpartanSpur

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Just like the reverse with Emerson RB & RWB are actually very different positions to play and have very different requirements. That’s not to say that no RB’s are able to play RWB and vice versa but if conte is going and we are getting a back 4 manager this summer then it’s a legitimate concern if we are spending £40+ mil on a specialist RWB, will/can he be effective as an attacking RB or is he only good as a RWB.

That's more about Emerson's lack of roundedness as a player than anything IMO, his attacking abilities are far below the required standard. Emerson needs to play RB to mitigate his flaws, but even then you'll still be let down when he does join attacks.

Now Porro might be the same in terms of defensive ability currently but that is a lot more coachable. Trippier is playing RB in a 4 in the best defense in the league.

From the little I've seen of both I'd have more concerns over Udogie than Porro.
 

spursfan77

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Remember when we had Gunter, Corluka, Walker & naughton. We are about to do the same thing. Peculiar. Nobody wants to leave the club, it’s such a problem. We make it too comfortable for these players.
 
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