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SpartanSpur

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That Dan KP info ties in with that podcast info a few pages back which is promising.

A grade two and having him back before Xmas would be a bit of a result. Just need to find a way to continue to pick up points whilst both him and Romero are out. A win on Saturday would be huge and keep us well on track.
 

The Scarecrow

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If we get away with a grade 2 tear and not a 3, which would have required surgery and months out, it'll be a win. A grade 1 would be a miracle, given that people in the stadium said it sounded like a gunshot when it happened.
I'm an acoustician, and that is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read.
First of all, the likelihood that something snapping inside someone's body will be heard by anyone more than a few metres away, is extemely low. Three things will happen:
1. The sound itself will be significantly dampened by the body tissue
2. The already dampened sound will be attenuated by the air, the pitch and the people in the ground, by ~6 dB per doubling of distance.
3. The sound will be masked by the background noise level, which in a football stadium is extremely high.

Now, any sound that is ~10 dB lower than the background noise level will quite simply not be heard unless the sound consists of a completely different set of frequencies. The typical sound level at a football match is around 90 dB, so if we assume a distance of 8 metres to the closest bystanders, the sound source would have to be about as loud as a chainsaw in order to be audible.
 

danielneeds

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I'm an acoustician, and that is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read.
First of all, the likelihood that something snapping inside someone's body will be heard by anyone more than a few metres away, is extemely low. Three things will happen:
1. The sound itself will be significantly dampened by the body tissue
2. The already dampened sound will be attenuated by the air, the pitch and the people in the ground, by ~6 dB per doubling of distance.
3. The sound will be masked by the background noise level, which in a football stadium is extremely high.

Now, any sound that is ~10 dB lower than the background noise level will quite simply not be heard unless the sound consists of a completely different set of frequencies. The typical sound level at a football match is around 90 dB, so if we assume a distance of 8 metres to the closest bystanders, the sound source would have to be about as loud as a chainsaw in order to be audible.
I defer to your sound knowledge but I've heard someone's hamstring snap whilst playing football myself and it was scarily loud. I couldn't believe how loud, actually.
 

Trix

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I could live with that if it's true. We have an international break in between to factor in, so if he's back Jan/Feb i don't think that's too bad.
It is when you consider who he will likely be replaced by in the interim.
 

GioW

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I could live with that if it's true. We have an international break in between to factor in, so if he's back Jan/Feb i don't think that's too bad.

All guesswork atm but United away Jan 14th would be 9 games out. Plus FA Cup.

Hard not to be slightly disappointed after the wave of optimism yesterday. Let's see..
 

Yantino

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It is when you consider who he will likely be replaced by in the interim.
When i say not too bad, i mean in terms of what we all originally thought the length he would be out might look like. It looked really bad at the time.
 

cjbyid

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I'm still holding out until we get official confirmation.

Although Matt law can be pretty spot on:(
 

13VanDerBale13

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Massive blow if true & sadly I fear we’ll face the consequences, of failing to address the CB reinforncment demand, in the Summer.
 

Ribble

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Yeah, personally I'd file that under utter bollocks.

Only time I can remember hearing something go is when Grygera did his ACL against us when he was at Fulham, and that injury ended his career. That was on the telly though, he was on the touchline and probably right next to one of the shotgun mics they have around the pitch, we could probably hear it at home when people in the stadium didn't! I can still remember him screaming in pain immediately after too, the poor guy.
 

Mr Pink

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We all said we needed two high calibre CB signings in the summer.

We had the Kane money.

I mean, its frustrating because most of us knew we were light.
 

Cochise

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Bung him in an oxygen chamber and do some magic with stem cells. We can sacrifice some forum members to fulfil the blood gods need for virgins.
 
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