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Guntz

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If we sign Sancho then I would be very worried.

He's had well-documented attitude problems in the past and the last thing we need is another Dele situation (especially when he would cost upwards of £50m and is on massive wages)
 

goughie1966

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Maddison apparently has 2 choices

Join a club who have owners with billions to invest who are determined to win trophies and will at any cost (see what's happened in golf and horse racing) but morally you'd hope he'd turn them down due to their ties to an awful regime or join a club that operates fairly using a sustainable model but with owners that are happy to tread water turning over a tidy profit each year with very little interest in winning trophies.

One would hope he would choose the morally correct decision to sign for us but I've not seen a recent footballer take this stance and money and trophies seem to be the priority for them all regardless of the regime they're getting paid by. The Le Tissier footballer no longer exists. I'd be amazed if he chose us over that lot.
 

spursfan77

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Who knows what will happen. There seems to be more noise now about him going there but the fact remains neither club want to pay what Leicester want for him. But with the way these journalists work, we’ll be strongly linked with him again by the end of the week.
 

HarryTed14

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Maddison apparently has 2 choices

Join a club who have owners with billions to invest who are determined to win trophies and will at any cost (see what's happened in golf and horse racing) but morally you'd hope he'd turn them down due to their ties to an awful regime or join a club that operates fairly using a sustainable model but with owners that are happy to tread water turning over a tidy profit each year with very little interest in winning trophies.

One would hope he would choose the morally correct decision to sign for us but I've not seen a recent footballer take this stance and money and trophies seem to be the priority for them all regardless of the regime they're getting paid by. The Le Tissier footballer no longer exists. I'd be amazed if he chose us over that lot.
Messi chose the morally right decision and went to America rather than earn an obscene amount in Saudi.
 

DenverSpur

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I’m not sure it’s as straightforward as them being up a ring on us, thought this view has validity.

I think he’d be a main man at Newcastle and slot in straight away.

We currently have Kane, Son and Kulusevski. Plus Richarlison.

I’m just not sure he has as clear a starting role with us. Could Kulusevski move more central and take the role?
Don’t agree he’d be their main man and slot straight in. Guimeres(?) is their main man already plus Joeleton is a fixture in their midfield which leaves him fighting it out with Willock who’s been playing really well for them. Up front there’s Almorin plus Gordon on the right. So he’s no more guaranteed a starting place there than he is here except that as we are desperate for a creative player like him he would have more claim to a starting place.
 

Albertbarich

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I have a hunch he ends up at Chelsea

Once that Mason Mount money arrives I can see them coming in for him. Perfect for a Pochettino 4231
 

TheAmerican

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Bentancur and Maddison would be a very fun partnership, regardless of who plays defensively behind them. I’d be excited to see Rodrigo working with the space that Maddison’s running provides.
 

StanSpur

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Messi chose the morally right decision and went to America rather than earn an obscene amount in Saudi.
Saudi politics and positions that were morally questionable by western standards are changing though. It is easy to keep that rhetoric and ignore change. Yes there is a long way to go but the Middle East are moving into world power territory with their oil money being invested in green energy and technology and with it a recognition to move some of their antiquated thinking. Therefore the moral issue will become less and less and clubs like spurs (who no doubt will be owned by a Middle East owner in the next 5 years) need to be a genuine option for financial or football reasons. We can’t on either right now so I imagine we will be recruiting slightly left field and hoping for the best in many respects
 

DenverSpur

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I’m not sure it’s as straightforward as them being up a ring on us, thought this view has validity.

I think he’d be a main man at Newcastle and slot in straight away.

We currently have Kane, Son and Kulusevski. Plus Richarlison.

I’m just not sure he has as clear a starting role with us. Could Kulusevski move more central and take the role?
Don’t agree he’d be their main man and slot straight in. Guimeres(?) is their main man already plus Joeleton is a fixture in their midfield which leaves him fighting it out with Willock who’s been playing really well for them. Up front there’s Almorin plus Gordon on the right.
City were bought in 2008, Their finishes from then to now. City were Newcastle when they were bought, mid table and had been relegated a few times. Why do you think they won't follow a similar trajectory?
2008/9 10th
2009/10 5th
2010/11 3rd
2011/12 1st
2012/13 2nd
2013/14 1st
2014/15 2nd
2015/16 4th
2016/17 3rd
2017/18 1st
2018/19 1st
2019/20 2nd
2020/21 1st
2021/22 1st
2022/23 1st
Because FFP rules are much stricter than they were when City were bought. Newcastle won’t be able to get away with the financial tricks City got up to and so far have got away with - they still may get their day of reckoning . The other “top 6” are t going to stand by and let Newcastle game the system like City did.
None of this is to say Newcastle won’t be a force to be reckoned with in the future but I don’t believe they are going to do a City.
 

spursfan77

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Don’t agree he’d be their main man and slot straight in. Guimeres(?) is their main man already plus Joeleton is a fixture in their midfield which leaves him fighting it out with Willock who’s been playing really well for them. Up front there’s Almorin plus Gordon on the right.

Because FFP rules are much stricter than they were when City were bought. Newcastle won’t be able to get away with the financial tricks City got up to and so far have got away with - they still may get their day of reckoning . The other “top 6” are t going to stand by and let Newcastle game the system like City did.
None of this is to say Newcastle won’t be a force to be reckoned with in the future but I don’t believe they are going to do a City.

Theres also this or something similar, probably being brought in to stop them getting too big.

 

DenverSpur

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Whilst city keep putting the premier league on the global map, the PL/FA won’t bring charges to them, if they do, will be a slap on the wrist.

the money they bring in for them, goes beyond punishment, unfortunately it’s how the world works.
City are the only team in the PL keeping it on the global map🤣🤣🤣
 

SirHarryHotspur

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About £150k pw I reckon.
Just wonder if he might be looking for a bit more than that, he probably has an idea of what some of his England team mates are earning, if Rice gets a big pay deal with Arsenal , he might think I'm worth that amount.
 
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