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Top man Hugo, still the bollox.
Lloris made a save reminiscent of the one in World Cup semi final. What an epic and crucial save!
Media favourite Degea would have let that one in 9 out of 10 times.
This is a BBC article comparing De Gea and Alisson. While they argue DDG has performed better interestingly it is Hugo who has the best goalkeeping stats this season, with a better save and expected goals ratio. Well done Hugo!
"Only France and Tottenham captain Hugo Lloris has a better save percentage ratio (78%) than Alisson's 77%, with De Gea the next best on 73%
This season, the United keeper has faced 36 efforts that should have brought goals, conceding 33 times.
Alisson has faced 20 efforts of that quality, conceding 15 goals. Tottenham's Hugo Lloris is the only keeper with a better ratio, saving eight certain goals."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46839757
Easy. Like this...Would love to know how you save a certain goal
Got to love the stat brigade, NOT
This is a BBC article comparing De Gea and Alisson. While they argue DDG has performed better interestingly it is Hugo who has the best goalkeeping stats this season, with a better save and expected goals ratio. Well done Hugo!
"Only France and Tottenham captain Hugo Lloris has a better save percentage ratio (78%) than Alisson's 77%, with De Gea the next best on 73%
This season, the United keeper has faced 36 efforts that should have brought goals, conceding 33 times.
Alisson has faced 20 efforts of that quality, conceding 15 goals. Tottenham's Hugo Lloris is the only keeper with a better ratio, saving eight certain goals."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46839757
Lloris is better than Allison. Far better. If Liverpool were without VVD for a few games, it would be noticeableAnd here's the Telegraph's take: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...g-six-goalkeeper-analysis-hugo-lloris-making/
It's interesting how our perception and the reality don't meet. It raises a question about whether there is a flaw in the data or a flaw in our thinking. It's more likely both but I think this data raises serious questions about how we judge goalkeepers.
The data has a gap because it doesn't account for a goalkeeper's positioning, which is also important. But then again I'm unsure if a goalkeeper's positioning would help here. You could argue that positioning is part of the save.
However, perception is often flawed because of confirmation bias. I think people are surprised because they latch on to errors by Lloris to support a thesis that he's prone to errors and not as good as De Gea or Allisson. If those goalkeepers make a mistake, it's described as uncharacteristic.
I think the data shows a fundamental problem in our perception of goalkeepers. Lloris not only has the best shot-save ration, he has prevented the most expected goals. Ask anyone what makes the best goalkeeper and those are the first metrics they would point to. It's an emphatic statistic that completely contradicts what pundits and fans on this site think.
According to the Telegraph: "In wins over Cardiff, West Ham, Fulham, Leicester and Crystal Palace, Lloris has been the difference between three points and one - in xGoT terms, at least." That's 10 points. It means Lloris is the difference between 3rd and 6th.
*I should note that I'm not saying Lloris is better than De Gea, for example. But I think people should reconsider their criticisms of Lloris because those beliefs may be overly reliant on a few isolated events and ignore the bigger picture.
Lloris is better than Allison. Far better. If Liverpool were without VVD for a few games, it would be noticeable
And here's the Telegraph's take: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...g-six-goalkeeper-analysis-hugo-lloris-making/
It's interesting how our perception and the reality don't meet. It raises a question about whether there is a flaw in the data or a flaw in our thinking. It's more likely both but I think this data raises serious questions about how we judge goalkeepers.
The data has a gap because it doesn't account for a goalkeeper's positioning, which is also important. But then again I'm unsure if a goalkeeper's positioning would help here. You could argue that positioning is part of the save.
However, perception is often flawed because of confirmation bias. I think people are surprised because they latch on to errors by Lloris to support a thesis that he's prone to errors and not as good as De Gea or Allisson. If those goalkeepers make a mistake, it's described as uncharacteristic.
I think the data shows a fundamental problem in our perception of goalkeepers. Lloris not only has the best shot-save ration, he has prevented the most expected goals. Ask anyone what makes the best goalkeeper and those are the first metrics they would point to. It's an emphatic statistic that completely contradicts what pundits and fans on this site think.
According to the Telegraph: "In wins over Cardiff, West Ham, Fulham, Leicester and Crystal Palace, Lloris has been the difference between three points and one - in xGoT terms, at least." That's 10 points. It means Lloris is the difference between 3rd and 6th.
*I should note that I'm not saying Lloris is better than De Gea, for example. But I think people should reconsider their criticisms of Lloris because those beliefs may be overly reliant on a few isolated events and ignore the bigger picture.
Ive stopped short of sucking his cock
Would love to know how you save a certain goal
Got to love the stat brigade, NOT
I’m sure he’s very glad you stopped short.