Nicolò Zaniolo

[Ginola+Tonic]

I’m hate dealing with Italian clubs, it’s always long and drawn out.
I still reckon he stays in Italy like most Italians tend to do.

 

[Duskwen]

Considering the Juve news coming out of Italy, we really need this to go through, if we do lose Deki for a month

 

[jurgen11]

Considering the Juve news coming out of Italy, we really need this to go through, if we do lose Deki for a month

what did I miss

 

[djhotspur]

Considering the Juve news coming out of Italy, we really need this to go through, if we do lose Deki for a month

What is this regarding? Is Deki injured again?

 

[Pekoni]

what did I miss

Relevant parts of the thread:

• Juventus allegedly signed an agreement with players stating that 3 out of the 4 months of renounced wages (covid hit, early 2020) would be paid off balance sheet, spread over time
• Juventus captain Chiellini allegedly told the team not to share this detail with the media, ... and said whatsapp message was acquired as proof
• 23 + 17 players (across two seasons, including coach Sarri) could be banned for at least 30 days due to accepting being paid off balance sheet. This would apply also to players (and coach Sarri) who are not at Juventus anymore
• Juventus could be sanctioned with further point deductions and fines ranging from 1 to 3 times the amount in question. CR7 deferred wages alone are worth €19.6m
• further sanctions could include automatic relegation and revocation of titles (scudetto of 2019-20)

Another thing to add is that Juventus is a listed company, so off balance sheet liabilites such as deferred wages are a big no-no. Juventus former president Agnelli and several members of the board/directors are being investigated for this as well. The thread above is only re: sporting justice and Juventus, not criminal justice for individuals

Stolen from Reddit. Kulu and Bentancur are among the players mentioned on the list.

 

[Duskwen]

what did I miss

Relevant parts of the thread:

Juventus allegedly signed an agreement with players stating that 3 out of the 4 months of renounced wages (covid hit, early 2020) would be paid off balance sheet, spread over time

Juventus captain Chiellini allegedly told the team not to share this detail with the media, ... and said whatsapp message was acquired as proof

23 + 17 players (across two seasons, including coach Sarri) could be banned for at least 30 days due to accepting being paid off balance sheet. This would apply also to players (and coach Sarri) who are not at Juventus anymore

Juventus could be sanctioned with further point deductions and fines ranging from 1 to 3 times the amount in question. CR7 deferred wages alone are worth €19.6m

further sanctions could include automatic relegation and revocation of titles (scudetto of 2019-20)

Another thing to add is that Juventus is a listed company, so off balance sheet liabilites such as deferred wages are a big no-no. Juventus former president Agnelli and several members of the board/directors are being investigated for this as well. The thread above is only re: sporting justice and Juventus, not criminal justice for individuals

 

[Capocrimini]

Faacking hell Juve are dodgy ?

 

[chas vs dave]

Faacking hell Juve are dodgy ?

It was apparent when they did that sale/purchase swap with Barcelona. Both sides were cooking the books

 

[Albertbarich]

Lot of these traditionally huge clubs are getting more and more desperate to keep up with the financial juggernaut that is the premier League

They would be better off pooling together , getting lawyers and proving that man city are cheating their arses off

Hurt the best team in England and you hurt the brand.

 

[CerfBlanc]

The Italian FA cant suspend players that play in England. Wouldn't worry about that!

 

[McFlash]

Can't see players getting punished for that, it's not like they would've had a clue that something dodgy was going on. They probably just thought they were helping the club out through the global pandemic.
Punish those above them sure but not the players.

 

[JW72]

The Italian FA cant suspend players that play in England. Wouldn't worry about that!

UEFA/FIFA can though. Probably for the Paratici thread....

 

[Gpnash84]

Relevant parts of the thread:

• Juventus allegedly signed an agreement with players stating that 3 out of the 4 months of renounced wages (covid hit, early 2020) would be paid off balance sheet, spread over time
• Juventus captain Chiellini allegedly told the team not to share this detail with the media, ... and said whatsapp message was acquired as proof
• 23 + 17 players (across two seasons, including coach Sarri) could be banned for at least 30 days due to accepting being paid off balance sheet. This would apply also to players (and coach Sarri) who are not at Juventus anymore
• Juventus could be sanctioned with further point deductions and fines ranging from 1 to 3 times the amount in question. CR7 deferred wages alone are worth €19.6m
• further sanctions could include automatic relegation and revocation of titles (scudetto of 2019-20)

Another thing to add is that Juventus is a listed company, so off balance sheet liabilites such as deferred wages are a big no-no. Juventus former president Agnelli and several members of the board/directors are being investigated for this as well. The thread above is only re: sporting justice and Juventus, not criminal justice for individuals

Stolen from Reddit. Kulu and Bentancur are among the players mentioned on the list.

Christ almighty. I guess Deki could use the old Arry ‘I didn’t have a clue gov honest’ line and see if that works.

 

[Enzo]

That's incredibly harsh on the players if they do ban them.

It feels like the club put them in a impossible position (short of agreeing to legitimately renounce a full 4 months of wages).

 

[Tucker]

Can’t see that kind of thing sticking whatsoever.

 

[jurgen11]

be one hell of a court case as the club would no doubt challenge it

 

[Ghost Hardware]

#Calciomercato | @OfficialASRoma , still no offer from @acmilan for Nicolò #Zaniolo : the conditions remain the same

 

[hughy]

be one hell of a court case as the club would no doubt challenge it

Appeal it a couple of times and then accept it on the 1st June taking effect immediately.

Edit: Just realised we play in the Champions League final on the 10th. Better wait until the 11th June to accept their ban.

 

[sam_mason]

Why on earth would Juve need a player's agreement to not include their wages on a balance sheet? Its not like any player has any say on a balance sheet. Yes, an agreement to defer wages, but not how Juve account for that. Makes no sense.

 

[jpascavitz]

#Calciomercato | @OfficialASRoma , still no offer from @acmilan for Nicolò #Zaniolo : the conditions remain the same

Personally really struggling to figure out this situation haha

Are we holding out hope that a concrete offer from Milan doesn't arrive and Roma takes the loan with option route if we can get it? If Milan does formally offer, do we have to change our offer to an obligation? Seems a little like russian roulette going on here

Can definitely see it going down to the last day, but would be nice to get him in and settled for the next PL match if he's the one