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Nicolò Zaniolo

Pochemon94

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Perhaps we are waiting for Romero to “test out” the strength of his knees before committing to the deal. Phase 1 of the medical.
I think if Zaniolo plays will be a big indicator as to where we are at in the transfer, it’s one of the last preseason games before the season starts, if he is close to a move I don’t think they’d play him as why risk injury, if he does start or play a big chunk of time I think that will show we aren’t that close to a deal being done
 

Jet

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Anyone have an idea what Roma fans think of the possibility of this transfer?
 

Yid-ol

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Anyone have an idea what Roma fans think of the possibility of this transfer?
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JR1994

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My son is in Israel for a four day stag do. Yesterday Tel Aviv and today Jerusalem. A couple of hours ago while visiting the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, who should he bump into but Jose Mourinho. My son is with 3 mates - all Spurs. My son said Jose was very friendly and complimentary about Spurs and our supporters. My son asked about Zaniolo. Jose simply smiled and said very good player. Hardly itk but quite topical. My son is at the Dead Sea tomorrow and Haifia on Saturday. He said as he's now struck up a religious friendship with Jose he will seek him out again before the game.

Have we ever had stag doo ITK??
 

fridgemagnet

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Never seen him play before but I'm excited for this transfer! Especially if Conte really wants him.

I don't know much about Roma - has the arrival of Dybala pushed him down the pecking order at Roma? IE does Jose play them both RWF? Or would he play both together?

Could be a factor of him wanting to leave if his place has been threatened...
From the little I've read having also not really seen him; it seems he no longer fits the system Jose wants to play next season.
 

Snarfalicious

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I think if Zaniolo plays will be a big indicator as to where we are at in the transfer, it’s one of the last preseason games before the season starts, if he is close to a move I don’t think they’d play him as why risk injury, if he does start or play a big chunk of time I think that will show we aren’t that close to a deal being done

It would not be a Tottenham transfer if he didn’t start tomorrow and play a long period of the match.
 

robertgoulet

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It would not be a Tottenham transfer if he didn’t start tomorrow and play a long period of the match.
He's absolutely playing, and then also flying back to Italy with Roma. And practicing with them on Monday.

And announced for us next Friday.
 

DodgyLasagne

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Anyone have an idea what Roma fans think of the possibility of this transfer?
Before Dybala they wanted to keep him (though this was mainly bc they hate Juve, this was before our interest was more public and it seemed to be Juve)

I have read like 200 pages on their Zaniolo thread lol. You can see for yourself (have to use google translate) but i must admit a lot of it is unrelated bollocks and poorly translated Italian sayings.

Essentially their thoughts are:
- extremely, I can't overstate this at all, extremely frustrated with his decision making and passing. Frequently called the most selfish player they have ever seen
-most agree he has big talent though and was always going to struggle a bit coming off the ACL injury
- a lot of them say it's only a matter of time until he gets injured again (probably negative moaners, but they may have a point)
-most prefer him as the wing forward in front 3, not the 2nd striker with Tammy as he was used this year
-with Dybala in most agree he is not the starter and are OK selling him
- most think he has big potential though especially pre-ACL they thought he'd be a future star
- apparently he's a bit problematic off the pitch, knocked up an opposing player's ex GF and has entourage issues

A very informative (however, a bit negative) article on Zaniolo, written by a Roma writer (need to translate here) https://www.ultimouomo.com/nicolo-zaniolo-giocatore-piu-fumoso-ultimo-uomo-awards/
 

Rogmeister

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I think if Zaniolo plays will be a big indicator as to where we are at in the transfer, it’s one of the last preseason games before the season starts, if he is close to a move I don’t think they’d play him as why risk injury, if he does start or play a big chunk of time I think that will show we aren’t that close to a deal being done
I wanna see him swap teams at half time
 

DodgyLasagne

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This is probably the best summation of the issues Roma fans have with him:

https://www.ultimouomo.com/nicolo-zaniolo-giocatore-piu-fumoso-ultimo-uomo-awards/ I 100% suggest reading the entire article.

"Physically he is bestial, he can bring a decisive tear at any moment and Roma rely heavily on him and Abraham to get back on the pitch. It is a costly and difficult game, however, in which Zaniolo shows all his flaws. A first touch that is not always very soft, an overly aggressive contact game, the exclusive use of the accident and, more than anything else, a tendency to get stuck in stubborn individual actions. He is the Zaniolo of all 2022, the one that remains the most in our eyes: the one who plays with his head down, who tries to jump one or two players in every action, who tries to bring decisive attacks even starting from midfield, without having the patience to lean on companions. At times he gave the impression that he conceived the game too individually, or too simplistic. Football as a long sequence of individual outbursts ball and chain, many useless cavalry assaults. It is the season in which he has managed the most dribbles (2.2 for 90 '), but also the one in which he has failed the most (2.1) and in which he has lost the most balls. In its most opaque moments of form, Mourinho didn't let him play, and in one of Roma's best performances of the season - in the return derby against Lazio - Zaniolo was on the bench for all ninety minutes. Without him the team seems less lazy, more inclined to dribble and seek patient solutions between the lines."
 

barry

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Before Dybala they wanted to keep him (though this was mainly bc they hate Juve, this was before our interest was more public and it seemed to be Juve)

I have read like 200 pages on their Zaniolo thread lol. You can see for yourself (have to use google translate) but i must admit a lot of it is unrelated bollocks and poorly translated Italian sayings.

Essentially their thoughts are:
- extremely, I can't overstate this at all, extremely frustrated with his decision making and passing. Frequently called the most selfish player they have ever seen
-most agree he has big talent though and was always going to struggle a bit coming off the ACL injury
- a lot of them say it's only a matter of time until he gets injured again (probably negative moaners, but they may have a point)
-most prefer him as the wing forward in front 3, not the 2nd striker with Tammy as he was used this year
-with Dybala in most agree he is not the starter and are OK selling him
- most think he has big potential though especially pre-ACL they thought he'd be a future star
- apparently he's a bit problematic off the pitch, knocked up an opposing player's ex GF and has entourage issues

A very informative (however, a bit negative) article on Zaniolo, written by a Roma writer (need to translate here) https://www.ultimouomo.com/nicolo-zaniolo-giocatore-piu-fumoso-ultimo-uomo-awards/
Interesting article. I liked the ending where they mentioned former winners. Shows how quickly you can go from lost to found.
 

sundanceyid10

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My son is in Israel for a four day stag do. Yesterday Tel Aviv and today Jerusalem. A couple of hours ago while visiting the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, who should he bump into but Jose Mourinho. My son is with 3 mates - all Spurs. My son said Jose was very friendly and complimentary about Spurs and our supporters. My son asked about Zaniolo. Jose simply smiled and said very good player. Hardly itk but quite topical. My son is at the Dead Sea tomorrow and Haifia on Saturday. He said as he's now struck up a religious friendship with Jose he will seek him out again before the game.

Biblical ITK love it
 

brasil_spur

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I think if Zaniolo plays will be a big indicator as to where we are at in the transfer, it’s one of the last preseason games before the season starts, if he is close to a move I don’t think they’d play him as why risk injury, if he does start or play a big chunk of time I think that will show we aren’t that close to a deal being done
Should get the deal wrapped up and then have him come out in his Roma kit, only to rip it off Superman style and reveal the Spurs kit underneath ?
 

Ron Burgundy

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This is probably the best summation of the issues Roma fans have with him:

https://www.ultimouomo.com/nicolo-zaniolo-giocatore-piu-fumoso-ultimo-uomo-awards/ I 100% suggest reading the entire article.

"Physically he is bestial, he can bring a decisive tear at any moment and Roma rely heavily on him and Abraham to get back on the pitch. It is a costly and difficult game, however, in which Zaniolo shows all his flaws. A first touch that is not always very soft, an overly aggressive contact game, the exclusive use of the accident and, more than anything else, a tendency to get stuck in stubborn individual actions. He is the Zaniolo of all 2022, the one that remains the most in our eyes: the one who plays with his head down, who tries to jump one or two players in every action, who tries to bring decisive attacks even starting from midfield, without having the patience to lean on companions. At times he gave the impression that he conceived the game too individually, or too simplistic. Football as a long sequence of individual outbursts ball and chain, many useless cavalry assaults. It is the season in which he has managed the most dribbles (2.2 for 90 '), but also the one in which he has failed the most (2.1) and in which he has lost the most balls. In its most opaque moments of form, Mourinho didn't let him play, and in one of Roma's best performances of the season - in the return derby against Lazio - Zaniolo was on the bench for all ninety minutes. Without him the team seems less lazy, more inclined to dribble and seek patient solutions between the lines."
Not a slam dunk this. Have to trust Conte I suppose
 
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