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yido_number1

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Someone posted on here a while ago that we were stalling on the wembley announcement as we thought the stadium could be at a point where we could play games in it. Has that been debunked as it does seem odd that we haven't confirmed the deal yet and the stadium looks to be coming on at an incredible pace?
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
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Someone posted on here a while ago that we were stalling on the wembley announcement as we thought the stadium could be at a point where we could play games in it. Has that been debunked as it does seem odd that we haven't confirmed the deal yet and the stadium looks to be coming on at an incredible pace?
Can't see it as we'd need to knock down the Paxton clear the land and lay a new pitch as well as make the bit of the stadium that is built fit for purpose all within about four months from now.
 

Mikee1

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Can't see it as we'd need to knock down the Paxton clear the land and lay a new pitch as well as make the bit of the stadium that is built fit for purpose all within about four months from now.
Could it be that we might now be considering staying at WHL for another year, focus on getting 2/3 of the stadium completely done (or as much as can be), do a Liverpool for the end of next season and the start of the following season by having our fixtures moved to away fixtures which could leave us with up to six months (say April to September) to demolish WHL and complete the stadium which is mainly steel and can be prefabricated elsewhere? The plastic pitch can be made elsewhere and shipped in and the grass pitch was always going to be brought in as it will be the part that fits under the new south stand. This would avoid us moving at all and given our pretty disasterous Wembley form must be a major concern on top of the possibility that sharing with Chelsea if we're delayed another year could be a major nightmare? Probably all too tight timing wise?
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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Could it be that we might now be considering staying at WHL for another year, focus on getting 2/3 of the stadium completely done (or as much as can be), do a Liverpool for the end of next season and the start of the following season by having our fixtures moved to away fixtures which could leave us with up to six months (say April to September) to demolish WHL and complete the stadium which is mainly steel and can be prefabricated elsewhere? The plastic pitch can be made elsewhere and shipped in and the grass pitch was always going to be brought in as it will be the part that fits under the new south stand. This would avoid us moving at all and given our pretty disasterous Wembley form must be a major concern on top of the possibility that sharing with Chelsea if we're delayed another year could be a major nightmare? Probably all too tight timing wise?

Wouldn't surprise me. Poch and Levy must have looked at the home form vs wembley and away form and figured we could really fuck ourselves playing away all season.
 

Bulletspur

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Oct 17, 2006
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So I suppose it is not unreasonable to say that when finished, we could have the UK's first One Billion pound stadium
 

Bulletspur

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can't remember if it still stands, but in the UK isn't a billion, a million x million?
I believe it use to be but not anymore.

In the UK a billion use to be 1,000,000 x 1,000,000 but seem to have adopted the US version of a billion 1,000 x 1,000,000

If we had kept the old version then alot of people like Joe Lewis and Richard Branson's net worth would be reclassified as being a Millionaire not a Billionaire as they are now classified
 

dagraham

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Because the more it costs, the longer it will be until we spend any money on players.

Eureka. Personally, I'd be alarmed if any Spurs fan wasn't concerned if the stadium costs have doubled.

Apart from ticket prices ( which is a legitimate concern), the entire point of a new stadium was to allow us to get closer to the top teams in terms of revenue to enable us to be competitive ( particularly in terms of wages etc). Obviously, the stadium was never going to be a golden goose where we start sending money straight away.

If, however, the costs spiral so much that we end up financially hamstrung for a decade then you begin to wonder whether it's worth it. The players won't hang around for ever. We've seen the effect it had on Arsenal, and they have had CL money to help ease the burden. I don't we'll have that luxury as regularly as they did ( although we do have the absurd TV revenues that are about now).

I'm not surprised costs have increased, but I do hope that the NFL enabling works and public square works etc actually prove worth it from a cost/benefit point of view, rather than just becoming a bit of a vanity project.

We all want a fantastic new stadium that becomes the envy of the PL, but not at the price of success on the pitch. Well not for me anyway.
 

Lilbaz

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Apr 1, 2005
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Eureka. Personally, I'd be alarmed if any Spurs fan wasn't concerned if the stadium costs have doubled.

Apart from ticket prices ( which is a legitimate concern), the entire point of a new stadium was to allow us to get closer to the top teams in terms of revenue to enable us to be competitive ( particularly in terms of wages etc). Obviously, the stadium was never going to be a golden goose where we start sending money straight away.

If, however, the costs spiral so much that we end up financially hamstrung for a decade then you begin to wonder whether it's worth it. The players won't hang around for ever. We've seen the effect it had on Arsenal, and they have had CL money to help ease the burden. I don't we'll have that luxury as regularly as they did ( although we do have the absurd TV revenues that are about now).

I'm not surprised costs have increased, but I do hope that the NFL enabling works and public square works etc actually prove worth it from a cost/benefit point of view, rather than just becoming a bit of a vanity project.

We all want a fantastic new stadium that becomes the envy of the PL, but not at the price of success on the pitch. Well not for me anyway.

Arsenal was choice.

Their payments for the stadium was £20m a year. Their gate receipts went from £35m a year to almost £100m a year.

They had money to buy players. Wenger chose not to buy.
 

widmerpool

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I don't see how the NFL investment is anything other than a massive gamble on something that would be as logistically loopy as allowing a Californian club into the prem.
 

DanielCHillier

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I don't see how the NFL investment is anything other than a massive gamble on something that would be as logistically loopy as allowing a Californian club into the prem.
It's not really a gamble, the games at Wembley and Superbowl viewing figures show how much interest there is for the game over here, and it's not a logistical problem as once again the games at Wembley have proven, we'll have the only purpose-built American Football stadium in England when complete, with a contract guarenteeing a number of games to be played there every year, as well as the retractable pitch allowing for multiple other non-sporting events in a 61,000 seat stadium. Maybe more calculated risk, than a gamble.
 

thebenjamin

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It's not really a gamble, the games at Wembley and Superbowl viewing figures show how much interest there is for the game over here, and it's not a logistical problem as once again the games at Wembley have proven, we'll have the only purpose-built American Football stadium in England when complete, with a contract guarenteeing a number of games to be played there every year, as well as the retractable pitch allowing for multiple other non-sporting events in a 61,000 seat stadium. Maybe more calculated risk, than a gamble.

Well it is. It's not as if we're taking the gate receipts if they play at new Lane. We'll get a hiring fee and that's it. So say that's a million quid per game (which would be a lot), and making the stadium fit for dual purpose pushed the price up by 100M, it's a lot of nfl games and many years before there's anything other than deficit.
 
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