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andrewt

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he can't play every match
it's a a really bizarre observation on this board with potential new signings being back ups etc....we could play 60 odd games next year we need a SQUAD full of depth

I'm sure conte will play horse for courses so long as he has the right players, he will able to keep the squad fresh then and that is his mo that's how you win leagues
 

easley91

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It's funny how some think only XI players play and any new signings disrupt that. We need a bigger, better squad to compete. Especially with five subs being available from next season. The bench towards the end of this was terrible to be honest. Could only make three subs at best.
 

Cochise

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You mean, dropping Deki for a mid? Or going 4 at the back? Neither of those seem likely…
Conte has shown that he is happy playing both a 352 and 343, depending on the opposition and the tactical plan he wants to carry out (counter attacking or not etc). That means that we will have games where Deki, Son or even both of them are rested in favour of a different type of striker and an extra midfielder.

I think we'd have seen the 352 more this year, but with Skipp getting injured (the last time I remember seeing us play that system was Leicester away with Skipp in the right of a three) Conte was left with three midfielders. 343 became our only system more out of a need to protect our weak squad.
 

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I haven’t followed Conte his entire career but from my reading, he’s at least as well known for 3-5-2 as 3-4-3. Having this guy and/or an Eriksen to switch up formations would give us great tactical flexibility. Paqueta looks amazing on the compilations but I’d be surprised if he doesn’t end up at Newcastle with his buddy Bruno.
 

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I haven’t followed Conte his entire career but from my reading, he’s at least as well known for 3-5-2 as 3-4-3. Having this guy and/or an Eriksen to switch up formations would give us great tactical flexibility. Paqueta looks amazing on the compilations but I’d be surprised if he doesn’t end up at Newcastle with his buddy Bruno.
Started thinking maybe the Eriksen briefing from Gold yesterday had anything to do with our interest in Paqueta. Like you mention his versatility in either being able to play the wing or a #10 would give us more flexibility than Eriksen.
 

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Started thinking maybe the Eriksen briefing from Gold yesterday had anything to do with our interest in Paqueta. Like you mention his versatility in either being able to play the wing or a #10 would give us more flexibility than Eriksen.

Yes I had this same thought and conversations on Twitter today with a few folks! If there's a player with creativity that can also provide some pace or dribbling in the inside 10 position then it may be a better fit than CE.

I then wonder if the striker we would look for would be an out and out 9 or the profile of a forward that can also play striker. In my head it'd be a 9 + someone like Paqueta or Eriksen + a forward that can play across the front line.

Should be fun to watch, but Paqueta also seems like a safer bet than Ndombele to me
 

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I don’t know much about him, is he the kind of player that could step in to the false 9 for us if Kane was ever out/rested, in a Firmno kind of way?
 

wrd

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Yes I had this same thought and conversations on Twitter today with a few folks! If there's a player with creativity that can also provide some pace or dribbling in the inside 10 position then it may be a better fit than CE.

I then wonder if the striker we would look for would be an out and out 9 or the profile of a forward that can also play striker. In my head it'd be a 9 + someone like Paqueta or Eriksen + a forward that can play across the front line.

Should be fun to watch, but Paqueta also seems like a safer bet than Ndombele to me

What's Paqueta passing like because Eriksen can just split a team in half with 1 pass
 

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I don’t know much about him, is he the kind of player that could step in to the false 9 for us if Kane was ever out/rested, in a Firmno kind of way?
He’s a very versatile player, can play CM, AM and across the front three but I would say AM is probably his best role. He’s very much a classic Brazilian creative AM, lovely technique, great on the ball, has a shot on him and can thread a pass. The one difference being that he works hard for the team. He’s not the fastest tho and he doesn’t have the passing range of Eriksen but he’s still developing. I would expect some growing pains if he came here but he seems driven and physically I think he’d do well here.

He’s probably the player I’d be most excited about signing of those currently linked (except for maybe Lautaro but that’s not going to happen) as I think he has a really high ceiling. I think we’d be better of spending €40/50 on him the £70 mil on Maddison.
 

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What's Paqueta passing like because Eriksen can just split a team in half with 1 pass
Eriksen is unique as I think he's developed into more Modric as he's gotten older, not sure if anyone else agrees. He's always had an eye for a great pass but would play further forward - now you see him dropping deeper than ever and keeps the ball ticking and switches play with those beautiful passes.

Paqueta doesn't seem like the same kind of creative mid - seems to be people on the dribble, can score, but laid on 7 assists last season across all comps. He seems to play more through balls and cut backs in the box from what I see (this video is from two seasons ago - )

I don't think that is a bad thing. At the end of the day you want shots and goals created and there's different ways of doing so.

I think the big advantage of Paqueta over CE would be his ability to play literally anywhere which would allow him to fit in multiple areas in Conte's 3421 or allow him to go to 352. Per WhoScored, you can see he played well at CF, AM, CM, and off the right hand side. So he'd compete with Deki, could probably cover for Son, can play in a midfield 3 or even a 2 in late game scenarios if we were needing a goal, or as an emergency center forward!

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Eriksen is unique as I think he's developed into more Modric as he's gotten older, not sure if anyone else agrees. He's always had an eye for a great pass but would play further forward - now you see him dropping deeper than ever and keeps the ball ticking and switches play with those beautiful passes.

Paqueta doesn't seem like the same kind of creative mid - seems to be people on the dribble, can score, but laid on 7 assists last season across all comps. He seems to play more through balls and cut backs in the box from what I see (this video is from two seasons ago - )

I don't think that is a bad thing. At the end of the day you want shots and goals created and there's different ways of doing so.

I think the big advantage of Paqueta over CE would be his ability to play literally anywhere which would allow him to fit in multiple areas in Conte's 3421 or allow him to go to 352. Per WhoScored, you can see he played well at CF, AM, CM, and off the right hand side. So he'd compete with Deki, could probably cover for Son, can play in a midfield 3 or even a 2 in late game scenarios if we were needing a goal, or as an emergency center forward!

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Honestly, modern day or olden day CE is nothing like Modric at all. I really don't see that. Modric is such a dynamic player, even at his ripe old age, CL final in point, he is immense and is basically a top 5 CM of all time in all honesty, if not arguably the greatest.

CE is a much more passive player, and doesn't have the positioning, anticipation, aggression, and so many other attributes that make Modric so special.

Eriksen can certainly spot and ping a pass and cross, and can shoot from range, but beyond that I don't see what he offers in a deeper role.
 

Now it's Spursonal

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Honestly, modern day or olden day CE is nothing like Modric at all. I really don't see that. Modric is such a dynamic player, even at his ripe old age, CL final in point, he is immense and is basically a top 5 CM of all time in all honesty, if not arguably the greatest.

CE is a much more passive player, and doesn't have the positioning, anticipation, aggression, and so many other attributes that make Modric so special.

Eriksen can certainly spot and ping a pass and cross, and can shoot from range, but beyond that I don't see what he offers in a deeper role.
Think Eriksen is starting to closer resemble Pirlo’s regista role he had under Conte
 

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Eriksen is unique as I think he's developed into more Modric as he's gotten older, not sure if anyone else agrees. He's always had an eye for a great pass but would play further forward - now you see him dropping deeper than ever and keeps the ball ticking and switches play with those beautiful passes.

Paqueta doesn't seem like the same kind of creative mid - seems to be people on the dribble, can score, but laid on 7 assists last season across all comps. He seems to play more through balls and cut backs in the box from what I see (this video is from two seasons ago - )

I don't think that is a bad thing. At the end of the day you want shots and goals created and there's different ways of doing so.

I think the big advantage of Paqueta over CE would be his ability to play literally anywhere which would allow him to fit in multiple areas in Conte's 3421 or allow him to go to 352. Per WhoScored, you can see he played well at CF, AM, CM, and off the right hand side. So he'd compete with Deki, could probably cover for Son, can play in a midfield 3 or even a 2 in late game scenarios if we were needing a goal, or as an emergency center forward!

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I really appreciate this response, the reason I was so keen on Eriksen was the very reason you said that he now finally plays deeper and I think that type of player is extremely rare; Pirlo, Scholes, Xavi, Modric and dynasties have been built around these players.

Pacqueta looks fantastic, I'd love to sign him but yeah what Eriksen has moulded into makes me feel it could be monumental to get him onboard.
 

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He was formed in my favorite team here in Brazil, and what I can say is that I would love him. In terms of physical quality and energy, he reminds me a lot of De Bruyne, but he doesn't have the same vision as the Belgian, but he makes up for it with incredible dribbling and getting into the box with great success. As a Brazilian I would love him at our club, as I think he is the second best talent of this new brazilian generation. Behind Vinicius Jr and in front of Bruno Guimarães (who is already a steal for Newcastle imo)
 

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Eriksen is unique as I think he's developed into more Modric as he's gotten older, not sure if anyone else agrees. He's always had an eye for a great pass but would play further forward - now you see him dropping deeper than ever and keeps the ball ticking and switches play with those beautiful passes.

Paqueta doesn't seem like the same kind of creative mid - seems to be people on the dribble, can score, but laid on 7 assists last season across all comps. He seems to play more through balls and cut backs in the box from what I see (this video is from two seasons ago - )

I don't think that is a bad thing. At the end of the day you want shots and goals created and there's different ways of doing so.

I think the big advantage of Paqueta over CE would be his ability to play literally anywhere which would allow him to fit in multiple areas in Conte's 3421 or allow him to go to 352. Per WhoScored, you can see he played well at CF, AM, CM, and off the right hand side. So he'd compete with Deki, could probably cover for Son, can play in a midfield 3 or even a 2 in late game scenarios if we were needing a goal, or as an emergency center forward!

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Never seen him play live, but from the obligatory YouTube videos he looks like he plays a bit like Kaka, but could mature into more of a Zidane.
Not for a second saying he can come close to those heights, but stylistically reminded me of both of them
 
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