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Whoever mentioned defensive frailties is watching a different player. Strangely enough he seems to do well at tackling, intercepting and tracking back. Please remember how long it took ronaldo and bale, both of whom are now world class.

The problem is that Ronaldo and Bale always had the physical qualities necessary to succeed in the Premiership. They were (are) strong and fast. They obviously had a wonderful right/left foot. They just needed time to mature as men and learn the league.

I worry that Lamela lacks the basic ingredients necessary to succeed. I am not saying you have to be strong and fast - but it certainly helps! And if you are not, and you want to be a world class attacker, then you really have to have something special about you (think Suarez). I am not sure that is something that necessarily evolves over time. I think that star quality; that genius is always there to be seen. And to my mind you see far more if it in, say, Eriksen than you do in Lamela.

It doesn't help that we are crying out for some speed and power in attack - so Lamela makes things worse rather than better in that respect.

I understand the desire to give him a chance. But I have seen absolutely nothing, other than a Rabona, to suggest he has either the physical or footballing qualities to make it (and I mean, really make it).
 

NickHSpurs

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I wouldn't mind loaning him out until January to get him some confidence but we'll need him for the second half of the season once the Europa games stack up. Unless someone coughs up £20m+ I can't see us selling.
 

ethanedwards

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Whoever mentioned defensive frailties is watching a different player. Strangely enough he seems to do well at tackling, intercepting and tracking back. Please remember how long it took ronaldo and bale, both of whom are now world class.
Ronald was fairly sensational in his debut season he was also 18 years old, Bale was ripping it up in the CL at 21, you are not doing Eric any favours comparing him with the above.
He does not have the attributes that would make him any thing near world class, you can relax, Real Madrid won't be making an offer any time soon.
 

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Harry Redknapp once told Roman Pavlyuchenko to "fucking run around a bit"

I think Lamela must have read it on the dressing room wall
:rolleyes:
 

JoeT

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My biggest problem with Lamela is that he can't beat a player one on one. He often ends up running into them or he plays a pass to look as if he had planned to, which is then intercepted. At that point he then looks accusingly at his team mate.. ok that's three big problems.
He'll probably tear it up in another league, but I feel we need to recoup some of that 30million.. (and spend it on Yarmolenko!! - please someone tell Levy before Everton get him!!)
Agree about Yarmalenko.
 

Lifeson

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Whoever mentioned defensive frailties is watching a different player. Strangely enough he seems to do well at tackling, intercepting and tracking back. Please remember how long it took ronaldo and bale, both of whom are now world class.
I don't get it either. The one thing you can't criticize him for is work rate, and tracking back, he does that, yeah he might not be the best tackler, but he gets stuck in and isn't afraid of a tackle, from what I've seen he runs a lot more than Chadli or Eriksen (in the form of tracking back, closing down players etc)
 

vigospur

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Time to let go. I have been on the side of those thinking he needed time and I haven't often wanted a player to do well more than him. But having been at Saturday's game I couldn't believe how bad he was. Only a sub I know but at liability at both ends of the pitch.
Not any sign of any progress since he signed.
 

philbanger

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Had he come through the reserves or been bought from a lower division club for much less money (say £3 to £5 million) then there would be daily outrage at him being at the club. People want these expensive flops to succeed then say things like "give him until the end of the season" or "look at Bale and Ronaldo in their first seasons". He is clearly rubbish in the EPL. He still looks like a gust of wind will see him blown out the stadium and land on top of a bus, why he hasn't got on the weights yet is beyond me, and you'd have been more likely to see Oliver Reed go past a Happy Hour then see Lamela go past a full back. Keeping him here just drives his value down and takes up the place in the squad of someone who may do much more than his regular 5 or 6 (at best) performances.
 

Uxyid

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Would love too see him succeed as there is a good player in there.
However, we have been here before and I fear the Prem is not for him.
He will play a role in the Europa league if he stays but it might be better for all if we cut our losses and let him go.
 

millsey

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I've been a consistent supporter of Lamela, but I now feel that maybe it's just not going to work out for him in the Prem. If we can get a decent price, like Soldado, maybe it's better if we parted company?
It will free up money and wages for another signing.
Yep. That 20
Minute cameo on Saturday seems to have jogged people's memory he's not actually very good
 

millsey

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Depends what the offer is.

It was a 5 year deal so we've paid what, 15mill or so

Also depends on who his replacement would be.

A lot of ifs about this one
We will still need to pay Roma the rest of the money! It doesn't stop when we sell him!
 

Nebby

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Whoever mentioned defensive frailties is watching a different player. Strangely enough he seems to do well at tackling, intercepting and tracking back. Please remember how long it took ronaldo and bale, both of whom are now world class.

Yes, Bale and Ronaldo are world class. What has that got to do with Lamela?
 

slartibartfast

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Why oh why, and I said this last season but here we go again, do people keep bring up Ronaldo and Bale as examples???
It's ludicrous.
For starters theres no comparison to be made. Completely different circumstances.
Secondly they are the exception rather than the norm. For every billion footballers out there who do not get better and continue to struggle there may be one Bale or Ronaldo who becomes world class.
To keep mentioning them is beyond grasping at straws.
Please, stop torturing yourselves.
He's obviously a good footballer, you dont get to play for Argentina and do what he did in Italy by being shit, but its not working out here. He's had more than enough time and chances.
And as I said, just like Veron, Forlan, Soldado etc sometimes players just cannot adapt to our game no matter how long you wait.
No more from me on the subject, we're all going round and round here.
 
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