Julian Green

[Chris12]

http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/05/totte...r-bayern-munich-starlet-julian-green-4751624/

Just says set to launch a £5million bid for Julian Green. 18 year old who plays for Bayern Munich and is going to World Cup with USA.

Heard of him before but never seen him play and do not know what he is like

 

[TheAmerican]

Spoiler: MURICA!

 

[DaSpurs]

Wouldn't mind having more Americans at Spurs, but 5 million? Christ, Munich's director would fall out of his chair to sign that bid. Only reason anyone's even heard of him is because of an undeserved World Cup callup.

 

[Snarfalicious]

Wouldn't mind him as I do view him as talented. 5m seems pretty steep at this point, though. However, if he pans out and becomes a starter (and good one) his marketing value will be enormous.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Metro=bullshit

 

[HappySpur]

Seems like bs. Why would a kid who has lived his whole life in Germany, up and move to a club with no recent success in developing kids? Whereas the club he is currently at, has a great academy that stocks much of the Bundesliga. And why would Bayern get rid, even for 5m considering he scored 15 goals from the wing for them in the Regional?

And why would they do so with a kid they just signed to a four year extension in November?

No. This is just made up fantasy. After Matt Hummerls, Bayern hasn't been quick to sell their youth. He would more likely be loaned to another side in Germany so he could play at the top flight next year.

 

[Chris12]

Metro=bullshit

Nearly ever newspaper in this country linking players to us is bullshit, but still a news source and thus a link.... Regardless how shitty it is (and trust me I know its shitty)

 

[Hotspur_Hero]

This link is farcical at best. He's not good enough to play for Spurs now; he's not really even good enough to play for the US right now, based on the limit amount of times I've seen him play. So why leave Bayern's reserves to join ours/end up on loan in the championship? And for 5 million, Bayern wouldn't even consider it. They view him as a future starter and more importantly the key to expanding into the American market. There was all kinds of press saying they actually preferred him to play for the US over Germany for this very reason. Combined with this coming from the metro, I think its safe to forget this one.

 

[StanSpur]

Just did the YouTube. He has a similar build and movement (and possibly barber) to Sterling and looks comfortable scoring with either foot. Wouldn't be a bad addition to the youth setup but can't see us paying too much, or Munich letting him go if he has promise.

 

[Hitch]

Any ideas on the original source for this story? So far on newsnow all I see is a lot of reports claiming "according to reports."

*If the original source is The Metro then fuck that.

 

[HappySpur]

This link is farcical at best. He's not good enough to play for Spurs now; he's not really even good enough to play for the US right now, based on the limit amount of times I've seen him play. So why leave Bayern's reserves to join ours/end up on loan in the championship? And for 5 million, Bayern wouldn't even consider it. They view him as a future starter and more importantly the key to expanding into the American market. There was all kinds of press saying they actually preferred him to play for the US over Germany for this very reason. Combined with this coming from the metro, I think its safe to forget this one.

Good reply other than the expanding market. Rather than concentrating on one player (the next Thomas Dooley), they would be better off insuring that their product is on television and the Bundesliga has failed to do that for nearly 3 years. We won't see them until the Fox contract takes effect.

No, if you were concerned with a market, making sure your games were accessible the year after winning the UCL would be way more critical than some kid that may never make it, although hopefully he does.

 

[DaSpurs]

Seems like bs. Why would a kid who has lived his whole life in Germany, up and move to a club with no recent success in developing kids? Whereas the club he is currently at, has a great academy that stocks much of the Bundesliga. And why would Bayern get rid, even for 5m considering he scored 15 goals from the wing for them in the Regional?

And why would they do so with a kid they just signed to a four year extension in November?

No. This is just made up fantasy. After Matt Hummerls, Bayern hasn't been quick to sell their youth. He would more likely be loaned to another side in Germany so he could play at the top flight next year.

All perfectly sound reasoning, and I agree with you, but the kid is not as highly rated within their academy as he's been made out to be. The only ones making a big hoopla about this are the Americans, because we seem to think it's some sort of victory over the Germans we snatched a youth prospect out from under them at their biggest club. It was exciting initially, but to see the media overhype surrounding it in the States while no one in Germany even knew who the kid was, followed by his inclusion in the WC squad after one late sub cap, and then now this it's just obviously way overboard.

No way Levy sanctions this move at that price.

 

[DaSpurs]

This link is farcical at best. He's not good enough to play for Spurs now; he's not really even good enough to play for the US right now, based on the limit amount of times I've seen him play. So why leave Bayern's reserves to join ours/end up on loan in the championship? And for 5 million, Bayern wouldn't even consider it. They view him as a future starter and more importantly the key to expanding into the American market. There was all kinds of press saying they actually preferred him to play for the US over Germany for this very reason. Combined with this coming from the metro, I think its safe to forget this one.

Where have you seen him rated so highly? I've seen nothing to suggest that he's anything other than just another prospect in their academy. However, I do think you're very right about them actually being pleased about picking the US for this reason. But you then must consider, how much does that lend to my point about just how highly they rate him? I get that there's an overwhelming quantity and quality of youth coming through in Germany, but I still think that's insufficient reason to push a "future starter at Bayern Munich" out the door.

 

[Dirty Ewok]

It's almost guaranteed to be BS because of the source...

But it is also almost guaranteed to be BS because of the pricetag...£5m?....he is young, and may be talented but he has played a whopping 20 or so minutes with the USMNT, 4min (i think) with the Bayern senior side and highest level he has played with any regularity is the 4th division in Germany. Not exactly a ton to indicate he will be anything great or poor.

We wouldn't pay £5m for him as his biggest contribution would be as a marketing asset at the moment.

 

[Hotspur_Hero]

Good reply other than the expanding market. Rather than concentrating on one player (the next Thomas Dooley), they would be better off insuring that their product is on television and the Bundesliga has failed to do that for nearly 3 years. We won't see them until the Fox contract takes effect.

No, if you were concerned with a market, making sure your games were accessible the year after winning the UCL would be way more critical than some kid that may never make it, although hopefully he does.

I agree with you regarding the Bundasliga's lack of television coverage in America. That would be the best way to grow the brand. However, having the second-coming of Landon on your squad is certainly going to help, as long as he doesn't pull an Adu of course. So when Bayern come over here and do their summer tours and play in the MLS allstar game, they have the added bonus of parading around the new American golden boy. Its definitely a nice marketing tool.

 

[DaSpurs]

It's almost guaranteed to be BS because of the source...

But it is also almost guaranteed to be BS because of the pricetag...£5m?....he is young, and may be talented but he has played a whopping 20 or so minutes with the USMNT, 4min (i think) with the Bayern senior side and highest level he has played with any regularity is the 4th division in Germany. Not exactly a ton to indicate he will be anything great or poor.

We wouldn't pay £5m for him as his biggest contribution would be as a marketing asset at the moment.

Right. The single only reason we'd pay anything close to that is the marketing investment, and there's just no need after the recent surge here in the States due to Dempsey playing at the club the same year Bale went ham on the Prem. The popularity of Tottenham Hotspur probably surged a good ten times its stock in the States before last year. No need to spend that kind of money when it's already at an all-time high as is, this kid is highly overrated and probably won't even beat out any of the yongsters his age already at Spurs, and we just signed Gramps to a new contract.

I'll be the first to let you guys hang me from the flagpole if I'm wrong here, but there's just no way this isn't bullshit, or that we're even interested for that matter.

 

[DaSpurs]

I agree with you regarding the Bundasliga's lack of television coverage in America. That would be the best way to grow the brand. However, having the second-coming of Landon on your squad is certainly going to help, as long as he doesn't pull an Adu of course. So when Bayern come over here and do their summer tours and play in the MLS allstar game, they have the added bonus of parading around the new American golden boy. Its definitely a nice marketing tool.

You make an excellent point, really you do. But there's just no way Levy deems such an investment worth it at that price, especially when the market is as saturated as is right now after the surge from Bale/Dempsey.

 

[Hotspur_Hero]

You make an excellent point, really you do. But there's just no way Levy deems such an investment worth it at that price, especially when the market is as saturated as is right now after the surge from Bale/Dempsey.

I agree. It would be a bad move for everyone involved. Bayern would want too much, we wouldn't recieve a big enough market bump, and Julian would be in a worse place for his development. Unless he goes gangbusters at the WC and proves to be worthy of a squad position now, this makes no sense.

As to your earlier post regarding why I believe he is highly rated at Bayern, there are a couple of factors. They just signed him to a four year contract, he's been training with the first team since pep took over, he has already appeared in the CL (if only for the briefest cameo), he scored 15 in 23 in the regionialliga (which is a good return from the wing in any league), and Jurgen (despite his flaws as a manager) is a good judge of talent.

 

[danielneeds]

Does he play on the left? Because coming here would be a great career move for him, as we have zero people comfortable or wanton to play there.

 

[HappySpur]

Well it's been picked up by the MLS news feed already

http://www.mlssoccer.com/worldcup/2...ulian-green-sought-englands-tottenham-hotspur