- Sep 28, 2020
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Hey all,
Firstly please allow me to introduce myself, new here, long time Spurs fan and season ticket holder but just haven't bothered with Forums up until now.
Second items is the legendary conspiracy talk I see on her and after yesterdays Newcastle Defeat (feels like that) I am not surprised...
Firstly let me say I am very much on the fence about this but I have had suspicions for a long, long time.
I mean for years I have been told they even themselves out but I have yet to see...
1. Anything like the Mendes Goal even itself out against us.
2. Opposing GK sent off in first half for winning the ball and putting it out for a throw (Gomes @ UTD).
3. Goals disallowed for Offsite despite ball being played whilst in own half (Super Jan).
4. Goals disallowed for opposition for a handball which only occurred as a result of a foul on the attacking player (Lucas last season).
5. Goals for other top four teams ruled out for Handball in lead-up (Chelsea this weekend), I mean he brought the ball down with his hand within 10 seconds of them scoring but that's deemed not in the build up, the ball never left the box!!!
6. Spurs being allowed to take a Free Kick 5 yards in front of foul (Everton week 1), same game ref pushed Sonny back off the pitch to take a cross for a FK, didn't seem even to me then or now.
7. Spurs players Diving Headbutt an opposing player to win a FK!
8. God knows how many more things over the past 20 years or so I am not forgetting.
Now I am not saying we haven't had any luck with decisions because I know we have, but I don't remember getting any Win's from decisions which they regularly seem to cost us, in fact I seem to recall loads of fans giving us shit a few years ago over a Delli dive which got us a penalty for 4-0, they seem to be happy to 'even out' the decisions when we've already run away with it?!
But my memory is far, far from the best and much like customer service, you only tend to remember the Bad so I am not sold on this whole thing yet, however many do seem to be.
So my suggestion if this, start recording all the events, note date, incident, score before \ after incident and any other related items to the incident, I.E. Maybe we didn't concede but we had a player send off wrongly 5 mins in which ruined our chance before it started, all this has to be noted accurately and ideally with evidence, GIF's or whatever as it could be years down the line you go back over it.
This needs to be done fairly and Objectionably for incidents which go for us and against us, it's the only way, you leave out items which go against us someone will find one and you won't just look silly nobody will believe any of the rest of it.
Gather enough evidence, then it can be reviewed and properly debated, investigated or whatever, I would also suggest doing a 1 team league table, year or year which shows points gained \ lost over that season.
If you can show consistency that we lose out there is a case if not conspiracy THEORIES are all they will ever be in which case you may as well be talking Aliens & how JFK Shot Dianna!!!
In the mean time we just have to suck it and blame our own inability to finish games which lets admin is a far, far more consistent theme!
Thanks
Stuart.
[He's Fat, He's White, He's Full of Fucking Shite, Pier's Morgan, Pier's Morgan!]
Firstly please allow me to introduce myself, new here, long time Spurs fan and season ticket holder but just haven't bothered with Forums up until now.
Second items is the legendary conspiracy talk I see on her and after yesterdays Newcastle Defeat (feels like that) I am not surprised...
Firstly let me say I am very much on the fence about this but I have had suspicions for a long, long time.
I mean for years I have been told they even themselves out but I have yet to see...
1. Anything like the Mendes Goal even itself out against us.
2. Opposing GK sent off in first half for winning the ball and putting it out for a throw (Gomes @ UTD).
3. Goals disallowed for Offsite despite ball being played whilst in own half (Super Jan).
4. Goals disallowed for opposition for a handball which only occurred as a result of a foul on the attacking player (Lucas last season).
5. Goals for other top four teams ruled out for Handball in lead-up (Chelsea this weekend), I mean he brought the ball down with his hand within 10 seconds of them scoring but that's deemed not in the build up, the ball never left the box!!!
6. Spurs being allowed to take a Free Kick 5 yards in front of foul (Everton week 1), same game ref pushed Sonny back off the pitch to take a cross for a FK, didn't seem even to me then or now.
7. Spurs players Diving Headbutt an opposing player to win a FK!
8. God knows how many more things over the past 20 years or so I am not forgetting.
Now I am not saying we haven't had any luck with decisions because I know we have, but I don't remember getting any Win's from decisions which they regularly seem to cost us, in fact I seem to recall loads of fans giving us shit a few years ago over a Delli dive which got us a penalty for 4-0, they seem to be happy to 'even out' the decisions when we've already run away with it?!
But my memory is far, far from the best and much like customer service, you only tend to remember the Bad so I am not sold on this whole thing yet, however many do seem to be.
So my suggestion if this, start recording all the events, note date, incident, score before \ after incident and any other related items to the incident, I.E. Maybe we didn't concede but we had a player send off wrongly 5 mins in which ruined our chance before it started, all this has to be noted accurately and ideally with evidence, GIF's or whatever as it could be years down the line you go back over it.
This needs to be done fairly and Objectionably for incidents which go for us and against us, it's the only way, you leave out items which go against us someone will find one and you won't just look silly nobody will believe any of the rest of it.
Gather enough evidence, then it can be reviewed and properly debated, investigated or whatever, I would also suggest doing a 1 team league table, year or year which shows points gained \ lost over that season.
If you can show consistency that we lose out there is a case if not conspiracy THEORIES are all they will ever be in which case you may as well be talking Aliens & how JFK Shot Dianna!!!
In the mean time we just have to suck it and blame our own inability to finish games which lets admin is a far, far more consistent theme!
Thanks
Stuart.
[He's Fat, He's White, He's Full of Fucking Shite, Pier's Morgan, Pier's Morgan!]