Harry Winks - Leicester City

[SpursSince1980]

Dear god... some of the criticisms of him today. Just... mind boggling. Yes, he has been awful this season. But fair dues, he did well today. In fact, I thought he was our best outfield player in the 1st half. He at least was putting in an effort.

I assumably watched a different game.

All for dragging him over the coals for his overall form this season. But today, he put in a shift, which I can’t say for many of our players.

Yes, he will leave this summer. But, the young man has been with Spurs since he was a kid. Let’s try to show him a modicum of respect for all of the hours and commitment he has put into his journey at Tottenham.

Just because he may not fit in anymore and has regressed, doesn’t and shouldn’t erase a lot of the good stuff he did over the years. The club means a lot to him. Just go back and think of when he scored his first goal. He’s put in the time. The hard yards. The sacrifices needed to go from an academy kid to a first team player. He is still a very young guy. And all he has ever known is Spurs. He is also a human. So, put yourself in his shoes, and think how you would feel, if you were him, and the time has come to leave the nest.

So, I’m not going to spit on him after what will very likely be his last game. Especially when you consider the above. Whether you like it or not, he is one of our own. He’s family. Let’s try to look beyond the now, and send the kid out on his next adventure with a touch of gratitude and grace.

Thank u Tiddly. Good luck on your next chapter.

 

[punkisback]

Oh is that what he's alleged to have done. Might not be him though. People and agendas and all that. Posters here even accused Toby of doingsimilarwith the Belgian press...... I guess I'll give him the benefit.

On his on field contributions we tend to be impatient with players especially where they've had a bit part role. I feel he gives more than show pony Ndombele as an example. Controversial statement I know and many a poster will think I'm trolling but I'll genuinely take him over the CURRENT VERSION of Ndombele.

There’s no alleged about it! He is a snake! I would take Ndombele over winks 100%. Winks is getting stick because he’s a snake and a terrible footballer.

 

[mr ashley]

Dear god... some of the criticisms of him today. Just... mind boggling. Yes, he has been awful this season. But fair dues, he did well today. In fact, I thought he was our best outfield player in the 1st half. He at least was putting in an effort.

I assumably watched a different game.

All for dragging him over the coals for his overall form this season. But today, he put in a shift, which I can’t say for many of our players.

Yes, he will leave this summer. But, the young man has been with Spurs since he was a kid. Let’s try to show him a modicum of respect for all of the hours and commitment he has put into his journey at Tottenham.

Just because he may not fit in anymore and has regressed, doesn’t and shouldn’t erase a lot of the good stuff he did over the years. The club means a lot to him. Just go back and think of when he scored his first goal. He’s put in the time. The hard yards. The sacrifices needed to go from an academy kid to a first team player. He is still a very young guy. And all he has ever known is Spurs. He is also a human. So, put yourself in his shoes, and think how you would feel, if you were him, and the time has come to leave the nest.

So, I’m not going to spit on him after what will very likely be his last game. Especially when you consider the above. Whether you like it or not, he is one of our own. He’s family. Let’s try to look beyond the now, and send the kid out on his next adventure with a touch of gratitude and grace.

Thank Tiddly. Good luck on your next chapter.

I think you’re in the wrong Harry thread

 

[SpursSince1980]

I think you’re in the wrong Harry thread

Um, it is the Winks thread... I think... ?

 

[piedpiper]

Honestly, it’s got nothing to do with anything other than his performance.
I wish people would stop looking for a excuse

It’s not racism
It’s not xenophobia
It’s not jingoism
It’s not self-loathing


just watch the fucking games!!!

No I know it's none of those....I swear we sell him and Dele or Dier become the next victims.

Walker had his turn, Tripper through an imjury plagued season as well.

 

[Spursmatty87]

Fair play he did well today.

 

[piedpiper]

There’s no alleged about it! He is a snake! I would take Ndombele over winks 100%. Winks is getting stick because he’s a snake and a terrible footballer.

So it's out there in the public...him being a snake....yet he's still given game time. I'm skeptical but like I said earlier you and others might know more whereas I'm only picking up on this now from you and others.

Anyway...I doubt he'll be sold bigger problems in other areas I imagine and too much change In one go.

Saying that weren't Valencia in for him?

 

[mr ashley]

No I know it's none of those....I swear we sell him and Dele or Dier become the next victims.

Walker had his turn, Tripper through an imjury plagued season as well.

I’m not sure about this.
There were a couple of posters who had a personal issue with Walker (BC iirc), and trippier tbf also started the pointing thing and stopped doing what he did best.
It’s clear how good he was by watching him this season at atletico. But he’s not a rb. He is still an amazing rwb. That’s on Poch- including him leaving.

selling dele and dier should just be part of the clear out

 

[piedpiper]

I’m not sure about this.
There were a couple of posters who had a personal issue with Walker (BC iirc), and trippier tbf also started the pointing thing and stopped doing what he did best.
It’s clear how good he was by watching him this season at atletico. But he’s not a rb. He is still an amazing rwb. That’s on Poch- including him leaving.

selling dele and dier should just be part of the clear out

I'd hang on to Dele but make peace with Dier leaving....he needs a restart elsewhere. I'd give Alli one more season we can't clear out so many players in one go.

Priority sell
Kane ( only due to him wanting out)
Aurier.... 1 year left on his deal.
Ndombele...mercenary
Sissoko...please it must happen.
Lamela....his grown on me over the last few years and I never rated him at ALL.
Davies.... not good enough
Dier or Sanchez or both.

It's too many in one go though....that's the problem.

 

[Nebby]

There’s no alleged about it! He is a snake! I would take Ndombele over winks 100%. Winks is getting stick because he’s a snake and a terrible footballer.

What if the rumours are true and Ndombele refused to travel today? Winks would never do that. He genuinely loves Spurs. Would you still pick Ndombele then?

 

[Matrix]

Lol.....I just think it's over the top and I don't like our own academy players being treated the way he's treated. I remember when Jenas was the whipping boy too.

Being from the academy shouldn’t stop him getting any kind of criticism at all.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

So many agendas lol

He was good today. Everything went through him for the most part.

 

[TheHoddleWaddle]

I find it sad that people are so eager to believe 'rumour' without any first hand knowledge. Always struck me as a humble and hard working young lad. Not the best season, sure. I wonder how much of that was tactics etc, but he did put in a fair few stinkers. By all means criticise his game, why form opinions based on rumour? Its so easy to get drawn in by negative gossip.

He did.well today.

 

[Yiddo100]

Maybe a team like Southampton

 

[mr ashley]

So many agendas lol

He was good today. Everything went through him for the most part.

Was noticeable who refused to pass to him

 

[SirNiNyHotspur]

I find it sad that people are so eager to believe 'rumour' without any first hand knowledge. Always struck me as a humble and hard working young lad. Not the best season, sure. I wonder how much of that was tactics etc, but he did put in a fair few stinkers. By all means criticise his game, why form opinions based on rumour? Its so easy to get drawn in by negative gossip.

He did.well today.

I agree about the rumours, I don’t put too much weight on that as I suspect most footballers attitudes would disappoint us anyway. I judge him by what I see on the pitch and he’s just not good enough for a CL team or if we want to challenge for titles, ok maybe he’s not as bad as I think but he’s played some real stinkers for us, I’ve rarely been impressed with him, if he’s a starter for us next season we’re not going to be successful, I just can’t see it. We looked like our team of the 90s this season for two main reasons, some awful defending and back again to a soft center.

 

[Montalbano]

Maybe a team like Southampton

Stevenage*

 

[TheHoddleWaddle]

I agree about the rumours, I don’t put too much weight on that as I suspect most footballers attitudes would disappoint us anyway. I judge him by what I see on the pitch and he’s just not good enough for a CL team or if we want to challenge for titles, ok maybe he’s not as bad as I think but he’s played some real stinkers for us, I’ve rarely been impressed with him, if he’s a starter for us next season we’re not going to be successful, I just can’t see it. We looked like our team of the 90s this season for two main reasons, some awful defending and back again to a soft center.

The CM has been the biggest problem. For quite some time. It often left the back exposed to.ridiculous pressure. I'm.a bit of a stuck.record.on that one

But it wasn't just winks. Whatever CM was put on, it was porous and weak for the most part!

I still feel strangely optimistic that Harry could make.a positive contribution with the right set up, but at the same time,. I wouldn't be bothered if he made a fresh start elsewhere.

Actually, I could.say that for most of the team.....

 

[piedpiper]

Being from the academy shouldn’t stop him getting any kind of criticism at all.

Yeah all players should get it...no problem with it. I've been critical of Kane from time to time...so I get that. It's about balance...that's all.

 

[EQP]

Hopefully, his performance today and the very real chance of a EURO snub will encourage him to look for another team. We're no longer a good fit for him and he's no longer a good fit for us. A clean break is needed. Wish him all the best and I hope when he signs for a new team that he doesn't give any silly interviews about under-appreciated.