Harry Kane

[Mr Pink]

Yeah and more likely to be in Europe(than without him) with extra revenue and really only a striker required in that window.

And that more 'likely' scenario, appeal more than 100 million euros guaranteed now plus the other aforementioned considerations to sell now....

Not for me.

 

[dj_stu]

I think we’re saying the same thing then mate

Yes and no. City are blessed with worldies all over the pitch, so I'd say fitting players in to his system is significantly 'easier'. We don't have that luxury and I'm not sure we can afford to keep a player who is worth 85+mill now and fuck all next year, and who is physically not capable of an effective press for most of a game. Square pegs and round holes is still a problem, even with the very highest quality of peg.

 

[Trix]

Have him for a year and take that second rate next year

If those are my two options I'm 100% with you.

 

[yido_number1]

I'm suprised to read this from you. Don't you always go on about backing the manager completely. No grey areas.

You think Ange wouldn't want kane if he's commited to staying?

 

[Trix]

And that more likely scenario, appeal more than 100 million euros guaranteed now plus the other aforementioned considerations to sell now....

Not for me.

Different opinions and all, and as I've already said no one regardless of the argument could convince me we would be better off without him.

 

[theShiznit]

If he is still with us on Sunday and plays.
I would like to volunteer my services for body language watch.

My qualifications are I have seen several bodies in my life and listened to some language..

Also I am one of only ten people who actually know what the Mona Lisa is thinking.*


* It's 'yeah ok that one was me'

 

[Thenewcat]

I didn't say he can't play in it but, for example, I think there's a reason why Klopp's Liverpool has never been linked with him, despite winning the lot with Firmino as their 9. So there's one manager on earth to start with.

What are you talking about? Perhaps he hasn’t been linked with Liverpool because there’s never been a time it was even vaguely credible he would go there. There was one summer Kane might leave, and city were interested. Kane would have been an unbelievable 9 in Klopp’s system, he’s everything firmino is but with far more goals. How you’ve decided Klopp wouldn’t want him I’ve no idea

 

[Trix]

I'm suprised to read this from you. Don't you always go on about backing the manager completely. No grey areas.

Yeah 100%. Ange hasn't said he wants him to go though so I'm not sure of your point.

If Ange wants him sold then fine I'm behind it, but I'm still not going to think we will be better off for doing it.

 

[spursintheblood]

I don't believe some of you lot willing Kane to be sold so we buy some second rate replacement

The counterpoint to that, is even if Kane is the consumate professional, if he's then planning a free move next summer, he's not going to risk himself physically. He's already done enough to have stoked the interest of other clubs when the time comes.

If he wants to go, he should be allowed to leave with our appreciation for his time with us as well as a hefty contribution to our coffers. His Spurs legend status may dissipate somewhat, but he has the right to want to do more/different things in his limited career.

If he stays, loves playing for Ange and signs a new contract then hallelujah, but if his hearts gone, he should go too.

 

[mill]

Yes and no. City are blessed with worldies all over the pitch, so I'd say fitting players in to his system is significantly 'easier'. We don't have that luxury and I'm not sure we can afford to keep a player who is worth 85+mill now and fuck all next year, and who is physically not capable of an effective press for most of a game. Square pegs and round holes is still a problem, even with the very highest quality of peg.

I think you’re creating a straw man argument with all respect, my point was guardiola has adapted to play with a striker who is pretty much the opposite of how he thinks football should be played, haaland imo doesn’t get involved in build up play, which pep is all about, but thrives off his constant runs and movement

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Its not rocket science is it.

But all these points are irrelevant because he wants to leave so keeping him we highly risk him leaving next summer on a free and then we have £100mil less to replace him with.

Football at this level is always about the bigger picture, it’s why Pep, Fergie etc have success for so long because they sell big players at the right time and continue to refresh and strengthen overall.

 

[Scott Spur]

Tottenham Hotspur Football Club is bigger than Harry Kane.

The doom and gloom of some fans here make it sound like the club will cease to exist when (not if) he goes, whether that’s this week, next year, or whenever.

Yes, he’s an amazing player and he’d walk into any team in the world, but he’s neither the cause nor the whole solution to the problems this club faces right now. We just have to make the best of the situation and move forward under the new manager, anyone else gets left behind.

 

[KingNick]

Of course he wouldn’t. Anyone suggesting that, or thinking we wouldn’t be worse off without Kane are surely just using that thought to come to terms with their loss. Kane drops too deep and doesn’t run in behind enough for “Angels system”? I’m sure it wouldn’t take long for Ange to work it out - I mean, it wouldn’t be rocket science for players as good as say Kane, Maddison and Son to perhaps workout that when Kane drops deep into Maddison’s space, Son runs in behind with Maddison shifting into Son’s position etc etc.

Which would be a departure on Ange’s established style of play.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to believe that he would see how both Richarlison and Kane play in the system he actually wants to play without having to adapt and get other players to do things differently from what he wants as well and for him to then makes a decision as to who plays it better.

I hate the idea of ANY player being a guaranteed starter in any team. Successful Teams are always stronger than the sum of their parts because the team pattern is the most important thing.

 

[SpartanSpur]

There's nothing to say he won't end up at one of them anyway if he doesn't fit in in Germany or his missus hates it etc.

My guess is he goes to Madrid next Summer if he's a free agent and wants to leave. No way on earth they won't be in for him on a free and no one turns down Madrid.

This is the thing. No one knows how next season will go.

Mbappe and Kane next summer would bring Madrid back to Galactico days. Barca could also be looking at him on a free.

The fact he's considering Bayern suggests he's not averse to going abroad.

What if this new striker at Utd hits the ground running, or they have a worse season than us? That likely takes them off the table.

If Haaland stays next summer you don't see City coming in.

Liverpool would probably move Darwin to ST and be looking to replace Salah.

I think Newcastle will struggle to deal with the CL commitments and keep up league form.

You'd like to think Arsenal and Chelsea are out of the question, so it's possible there would be no viable PL moves next summer either.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Different opinions and all, and as I've already said no one regardless of the argument could convince me we would be better off without him.

Better off short term perhaps not, better off medium and long term with £100mil to strengthen the squad rather than £0 next summer, absolutely.

 

[Bobby TwoShots]

Different opinions and all, and as I've already said no one regardless of the argument could convince me we would be better off without him.

Agree. Honestly think the people arguing otherwise are just trying to make themselves feel better about him leaving

 

[Trix]

Tottenham Hotspur Football Club is bigger than Harry Kane.

The doom and gloom of some fans here make it sound like the club will cease to exist when (not if) he goes, whether that’s this week, next year, or whenever.

Yes, he’s an amazing player and he’d walk into any team in the world, but he’s neither the cause nor the whole solution to the problems this club faces right now. We just have to make the best of the situation and move forward under the new manager, anyone else gets left behind.

No one is saying that, absolutely no one at all.

 

[Thenewcat]

Yes and no. City are blessed with worldies all over the pitch, so I'd say fitting players in to his system is significantly 'easier'. We don't have that luxury and I'm not sure we can afford to keep a player who is worth 85+mill now and fuck all next year, and who is physically not capable of an effective press for most of a game. Square pegs and round holes is still a problem, even with the very highest quality of peg.

Your comments smack of a defence mechanism. I’ll be gutted if he does go, but I’m not going to invent reasons why it’s a good thing ahead of time to delude myself. Kane can play in any system, and he’s one of the best players in the world. You might prefer the cash, but stop trying to tell yourself it’s somehow a benefit on the pitch if he leaves. It isn’t

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

There's nothing to say he won't end up at one of them anyway if he doesn't fit in in Germany or his missus hates it etc.

My guess is he goes to Madrid next Summer if he's a free agent and wants to leave. No way on earth they won't be in for him on a free and no one turns down Madrid.

Highly unlikely if Kane signs a 3-5 year deal with Bayern that a City or Utd etc stump up £100mil to buy him after a year because his wife and kids don’t like living there

Selling him to Bayern now for around £100mil rather than risk losing him to a PL rival for free next summer is a no brainer.

 

[dj_stu]

What are you talking about? Perhaps he hasn’t been linked with Liverpool because there’s never been a time it was even vaguely credible he would go there. There was one summer Kane might leave, and city were interested. Kane would have been an unbelievable 9 in Klopp’s system, he’s everything firmino is but with far more goals

That's just not true - Firmino has a far better pressing ability & work rate than Kane, which was totally necessary for Klopp's 'heavy metal' football. In the past seasons, United and Chelsea have been linked with Kane as well as City, of course. Liverpool never were because he wasn't ideally suited to their style of play and it likely would have had a detrimental effect on their overall game. Kane is an absolutely unbelievable player, but he can't magic up physical attributes that he doesn't possess out of thin air.