Harry Kane

[west indie]

This is agree with and is an ok approach as long as we signed another goalscoring wide player of quality then Richy and Son can cover up top and we’d have : Kulu, Soleman, Maddison, new signing and mabye Gil and Devine so about 7-8 players to cover those positions.

We should go for Mitoma, Fishhandaricecake

 

[robertgoulet]

I think if you fast forward to March 2024 we’d all be happier if we’d have sold Kane in July 2023 than if Kane was still with us at that point.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Forgot to add to my post that, he could still win lots of English Domestic trophies if he saw out his contract and moved to City on a free next year, surely thats win win for him personally?

Obviously, ideally, we offer a good contract with a get out of jail free clause if things dont go to plan from a Tottenham point of view that benefits everyone, which sounds like what the club are trying to put together.

But if it doesn't happen, then 1 more season with us, getting closer to the record then signing for City next summer, beating the record then winning some trophies just makes sense if you're Harry Kane surely?

True fantastic points and that’ll all be very appealing I suppose there is more risk with this option as :
-what if he gets a serious injury this season so no other big team wants to touch him?
-what if haaland stays one more season so on a free city don’t want/need him, utd can’t afford or don’t want to go for him?
Then next summer say Bayern sign a big name striker this summer, they won’t have a need for Kane and so he’s wasted a year with us winning nothing and getting older, yes he’ll have scored a few more goals closer to shearers record but he could leave himself snookered whereas right now he has a chance of making a move to a huge club and win many trophies if they can agree a few with spurs and then he could still come back to the PL in a few years time and hunt down shearers record…

 

[Timberwolf]

No risk. He’s a Kane clone. Worth every penny.

Yeah defo no risk spending almost all of the Kane money on an 18 year old lad with 900 mins of PL football under his belt.

Might turn out to be the next Kane but come on...

 

[hughy]

Yeah defo no risk spending almost all of the Kane money on an 18 year old lad with 900 mins of PL football under his belt.

Might turn out to be the next Kane but come on...

I presumed he was saying it with a hint of sarcasm, but if he's serious that's a fucking massive statement!

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

We should go for Mitoma, Fishhandaricecake

Love that shout mate altho don’t think Brighton will sell unfortunately but he’s the level of quality we need and he’d suit Ange's style of football so so well.

IF we do sell Kane then I’d love us to add another top top wide option similar to Mitoma and put Richy and Son up top.

Say we could get Mitoma or someone similar imagine this as options with Kane gone:

RW: Kulu,Solomon,Gil
CAM: Maddison,Kulu,Devine?
LW: Son,Mitoma,Solomon
ST: Richarlison,Son

7 fast exciting top top players to cover the 4 positions and then Devine in as extra cover if needed.

I like the look of that a lot and think it could go close to covering kanes goals or at least we’d not be so reliant on one player.

Also add in Porto’s attacking threat and possibly Udogie etc.

Could shape up nicely if we say also pulled the trigger on two top CB’s and a CM, we’d mabye just about be ok without Harry then.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Just can't see Bayern offering what we would want. Nor Kane having had it clear this time with the club what would be necessary for the club to sell him at this point.

Also I disagree, don't see his family being that up for moving to Germany. America in the future, yes, but not elsewhere in Europe.

Point 1 - agree but if they get pretty close we might give in all things considered, especially if levy has some sort of gentleman’s agreement with Kane

Point 2 - I don’t think it would be their preference and I bet they’d ideally like to stay living where they are but at the same time Kate will be very supportive to Harry’s career and Munich is a very nice safe place to live and bring up kids for a few years and then they can move back to England after a few years.

 

[west indie]

Love that shout mate altho don’t think Brighton will sell unfortunately but he’s the level of quality we need and he’d suit Ange's style of football so so well.

IF we do sell Kane then I’d love us to add another top top wide option similar to Mitoma and put Richy and Son up top.

Say we could get Mitoma or someone similar imagine this as options with Kane gone:

RW: Kulu,Solomon,Gil
CAM: Maddison,Kulu,Devine?
LW: Son,Mitoma,Solomon
ST: Richarlison,Son

7 fast exciting top top players to cover the 4 positions and then Devine in as extra cover if needed.

I like the look of that a lot and think it could go close to covering kanes goals or at least we’d not be so reliant on one player.

Also add in Porto’s attacking threat and possibly Udogie etc.

Could shape up nicely if we say also pulled the trigger on two top CB’s and a CM, we’d mabye just about be ok without Harry then.

Fish, I think Mitoma's contract expires 2025

 

[Timberwolf]

Don't think the new bid really means anything tbh. Still way too low to even get Levy to start talking to them.

Think Kane's meeting with Ange is more important than anything Bayern are doing atm. And even if Kane tells him he's desperate to leave, it still won't happen unless Bayern offer plenty more.

 

[jay2040]

400k a week and a 5% cut of all non football stadium income for the rest of his life plus a statue if he stays at Spurs for the rest of his career. These creative deals are easy.

Don't forget to add free use of the go karts for kids birthday parties!

 

[HildoSpur]

No risk. He’s a Kane clone. Worth every penny.

Uh huh

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Don't think the new bid really means anything tbh. Still way too low to even get Levy to start talking to them.

Think Kane's meeting with Ange is more important than anything Bayern are doing atm. And even if Kane tells him he's desperate to leave, it still won't happen unless Bayern offer plenty more.

I think the 2nd bid shows willing and momentum and is Bayern testing the water.

If they weren’t serious or couldn’t afford him or get close they’d have stopped after the first offer, it’s just usual big transfer chess

But you’re right they likely
Need to offer plenty more.

Their record 2 transfers are:
1.L.Hernandez €80mil
2.De Ligt €67mil

I think given their big need for a top top striker that they would stretch to €100mil to sign a player of Kanes quality and if so with some add-ons I think we’d be stupid to turn that down at this point.

 

[Reece_Spurs]

True fantastic points and that’ll all be very appealing I suppose there is more risk with this option as :
-what if he gets a serious injury this season so no other big team wants to touch him?
-what if haaland stays one more season so on a free city don’t want/need him, utd can’t afford or don’t want to go for him?
Then next summer say Bayern sign a big name striker this summer, they won’t have a need for Kane and so he’s wasted a year with us winning nothing and getting older, yes he’ll have scored a few more goals closer to shearers record but he could leave himself snookered whereas right now he has a chance of making a move to a huge club and win many trophies if they can agree a few with spurs and then he could still come back to the PL in a few years time and hunt down shearers record…

Serious injuries can happen any time for any player, young or old, so it's pointless talking about hypothetical injuries, especially as Kane has had no major injuries for a few years now.

I think regardless whether Haaland stays or goes, there's not a top team on the planet that would not offer Kane a mental contract if he's a free agent next summer, imagine Kane just behind Haaland?

My point was him staying in the PL, so if he sees out his contract and leaves on a free next summer, i'd be shocked if he didn't go to either City or United.

 

[Bosher]

Whilst Kane might miss out on being the Premier Leagues all time leading goal scorer and the legendary status it would bring, if he moves to Bayern, he will join an even more illustrious list of English players to play in Germany. Also on that list is Kevin Keegan, Owen Hargreaves, Peter Hobday, Jonjoe Kenny and of course Tony Woodcock. I can see now why he would give up the promise of being regarded as a legend. Who wouldn't wanna join such a list.

 

[Timberwolf]

I think the 2nd big shows willing and momentum and is Bayern testing the water.

If they weren’t serious or couldn’t afford him or get close they’d have stopped after the first offer, it’s just usual big transfer chess

But you’re right they likely
Need to offer plenty more.

Their record 2 transfers are:
1.L.Hernandez €80mil
2.De Ligt €67mil

I think given their big need for a top top striker that they would stretch to €100mil to sign a player of Kanes quality and if so with some add-ons I think we’d be stupid to turn that down at this point.

Yeah I do think they're still just testing the waters and bigger bids will come.

He's the final piece of the puzzle for their squad and ties together their entire attack. They stand almost no chance of getting him next summer so it's in their interests to overpay now to get him now.

Still reckon there's very little chance he leaves unless he openly tells Ange he's not interested in the project and Ange would prefer to just take the money now. In which case it's simply a matter of milking Bayern for as much as we possibly can (probably around 100m euros as you say).

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Point 1 - agree but if they get pretty close we might give in all things considered, especially if levy has some sort of gentleman’s agreement with Kane

Point 2 - I don’t think it would be their preference and I bet they’d ideally like to stay living where they are but at the same time Kate will be very supportive to Harry’s career and Munich is a very nice safe place to live and bring up kids for a few years and then they can move back to England after a few years.

Agree with this on the whole. I do think so much of this will come down to the convo between Levy, Ange, Munn (unofficially) and Kane on Wednesday. I think if Kane makes it’s abundantly clear that he will under no circumstances sign a new contract ether now or during the season then Levy may well soften to BM’s offer. Not to the degree he will accept a low ball but possibly open negotiations rather then saying a straight no which seems to be the case. Although he will still probably have some belief he can change his mind during the season Levy will still be thinking about the long term and the fear of Kane at another PL team will certainly be a big one.

It’s a tricky situation because it’s about so much more then just the on field numbers he provides, Kane is our only true world class player we have which also will have bearing on the media, marketing and sponsorship side. Also replacing him will be extremely difficult, Levy will be under pressure to bring in a big name player of some degree, be that an established star or hot prospect, and that would be extremely hard to do in general let alone without any European football of any kind. Fans would be up in revolt if we didn’t splash some cash on at least one attacker were he to go even if it’s not a pure CF but a WF.

Aside from that I don’t think there would be any issues on his family side about going to BM. They are one of the biggest clubs in the world and I’m sure they would do everything possible to help his family transition. It might not be ideal but ultimately Kane wants to be challenging for the CL not just participating in it, im sure his family are on board with that dream wherever it might take them, be that Munich, Madrid, Paris or Manchester. The only real question is if he would be happy to give up on breaking the PL record but that seems not be an issue if reports are to be believed.

Of course all that being said, if Kane leaves the door open even a tiny bit to the possibility of staying I think Levy will close the door to any team that comes knocking unless it’s an absolutely obscene fee.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Agree with this on the whole. I do think so much of this will come down to the convo between Levy, Ange, Munn (unofficially) and Kane on Wednesday. I think if Kane makes it’s abundantly clear that he will under no circumstances sign a new contract ether now or during the season then Levy may well soften to BM’s offer. Not to the degree he will accept a low ball but possibly open negotiations rather then saying a straight no which seems to be the case. Although he will still probably have some belief he can change his mind during the season Levy will still be thinking about the long term and the fear of Kane at another PL team will certainly be a big one.

It’s a tricky situation because it’s about so much more then just the on field numbers he provides, Kane is our only true world class player we have which also will have bearing on the media, marketing and sponsorship side. Also replacing him will be extremely difficult, Levy will be under pressure to bring in a big name player of some degree, be that an established star or hot prospect, and that would be extremely hard to do in general let alone without any European football of any kind. Fans would be up in revolt if we didn’t splash some cash on at least one attacker were he to go even if it’s not a pure CF but a WF.

Aside from that I don’t think there would be any issues on his family side about going to BM. They are one of the biggest clubs in the world and I’m sure they would do everything possible to help his family transition. It might not be ideal but ultimately Kane wants to be challenging for the CL not just participating in it, im sure his family are on board with that dream wherever it might take them, be that Munich, Madrid, Paris or Manchester. The only real question is if he would be happy to give up on breaking the PL record but that seems not be an issue if reports are to be believed.

Of course all that being said, if Kane leaves the door open even a tiny bit to the possibility of staying I think Levy will close the door to any team that comes knocking unless it’s an absolutely obscene fee.

Brilliant post

 

[C0YS]

Bayern getting close to an offer that could be worth considering tbh. I would rather he stay of course, but there are some positives of selling him this season to a team outside of the PL.

Now, when it comes to replacing him we need to be careful. Reality we shouldn't be trying to replace him but rather try to build a team that would suit the new manager with players that could play a major part in the future. For me my top target would be Jonathan David, maybe Goncalo Ramos or even Watkins ought to be looked at to replace the attacking input but generally try to look at the team as a whole.

What I fear is we go in big for Vlahovic. Who I have big reservations about, he is very good at some aspects but is quite a limited player really, and I worry his drop off isn't just a lack of form.

In any case, we look like at the start of a rebuild. It's probably as good a time as any for Kane to leave even if I hope we can sell him our project.

 

[Timberwolf]

Bayern getting close to an offer that could be worth considering tbh. I would rather he stay of course, but there are some positives of selling him this season to a team outside of the PL.

Now, when it comes to replacing him we need to be careful. Reality we shouldn't be trying to replace him but rather try to build a team that would suit the new manager with players that could play a major part in the future. For me my top target would be Jonathan David, maybe Goncalo Ramos or even Watkins ought to be looked at to replace the attacking input but generally try to look at the team as a whole.

What I fear is we go in big for Vlahovic. Who I have big reservations about, he is very good at some aspects but is quite a limited player really, and I worry his drop off isn't just a lack of form.

In any case, we look like at the start of a rebuild. It's probably as good a time as any for Kane to leave even if I hope we can sell him our project.

Doesn't strike me as a very 'Ange' forward so don't think we would go there, but it seems that most attacking players have struggled under Allegri (mk II) at Juve. Seems to be a bit of a graveyard for attacking talent right now and I think Vlahovic's confidence is through the floor as a result - a little like Kulusevski when he was there.

He's not a patch on Kane, but I do think Vlahovic is much better than his time at Juve suggests.

 

[robertgoulet]

Bayern getting close to an offer that could be worth considering tbh. I would rather he stay of course, but there are some positives of selling him this season to a team outside of the PL.

Now, when it comes to replacing him we need to be careful. Reality we shouldn't be trying to replace him but rather try to build a team that would suit the new manager with players that could play a major part in the future. For me my top target would be Jonathan David, maybe Goncalo Ramos or even Watkins ought to be looked at to replace the attacking input but generally try to look at the team as a whole.

What I fear is we go in big for Vlahovic. Who I have big reservations about, he is very good at some aspects but is quite a limited player really, and I worry his drop off isn't just a lack of form.

In any case, we look like at the start of a rebuild. It's probably as good a time as any for Kane to leave even if I hope we can sell him our project.

Agreed on Vlahovic. Not sure he’s what we would need. If Son (younger Son) and Richy were on the market for Ange I honestly think they’d be targets.