Harry Kane

[Styopa]

Need to do both to have any chance of him signing imo.

It all rests on the ambition of the board. Either put up or shove off.

But realistically, what would the club have to do to match the level of ambition of some of the elite clubs?

At a push, I could see us going all out for the top four and a crack at one of the domestic cups. And that's if we give Ange sufficient backing and don't leave the squad short in key positions as we almost always do. However, I can't see us rivalling the likes of Man C or Madrid any time soon, even if we gave Ange a couple hundred million to spend on new CBs this window.

 

[nailsy]

Can't believe he'd entertain Bayern.

Hope he realises when he does win a title with them no-one will bat an eye lid...

they'll just shrug and say they win every season regardless.

You've obviously never heard his stand up routine

 

[Trix]

But realistically, what would the club have to do to match the level of ambition of some of the elite clubs?

At a push, I could see us going all out for the top four and a crack at one of the domestic cups. And that's if we give Ange sufficient backing and don't leave the squad short in key positions as we almost always do. However, I can't see us rivalling the likes of Man C or Madrid any time soon, even if we gave Ange a couple hundred million to spend on new CBs this window.

Hard to say what is enough, we do know from experience what isn't enough though.

 

[nailsy]

Maybe, rather than offer him a new deal, but some good players, push the boat out and be ruthless with getting rid of the dozen players that need to be offloaded.

That would make Kane more likely to want to stay, showing you actually mean business.

Getting VDV, Tapsoba, tosin and amrabat wouldn’t cost the wart but would resolve a lot if our issues and give us a good team and that is more likely to convince Kane to give it one more year.

I'm not sure those players would be enough. Maybe I don't know enough about the European game, but I don't think they're household names that would make him think that we can catch City. If he's happy to maybe have a cup run and aim for getting into the Champions League then it might convince him.

 

[roy@SC]

But realistically, what would the club have to do to match the level of ambition of some of the elite clubs?

At a push, I could see us going all out for the top four and a crack at one of the domestic cups. And that's if we give Ange sufficient backing and don't leave the squad short in key positions as we almost always do. However, I can't see us rivalling the likes of Man C or Madrid any time soon, even if we gave Ange a couple hundred million to spend on new CBs this window.

Sign both of our top 2 targets at center back for a start. Ridiculous that we hear its one or the other...looking like same old ENIC to me.

 

[Scott Spur]

I wish some of our fans would take our overly frugal owners to task, rather than trying to sell possibly our greatest ever player because they’ve been indoctrinated to believe this little old 9th richest club in the world couldn’t possibly forgo 80m for him. Sick of the Bastard Accountants of Daniel Levy.

I’m sorry, but for some of us this has nothing to do with money whatsoever.

The formula is quite simple, if Kane stays next season he will very likely walk for free. If he does that he will have the pick of any club in the world, including someone like Chelsea.

I’m not sure if you were around when Campbell went to Arsenal, but I can tell you it was one of the worst experiences I’ve ever had as a fan. I was backing the guy the whole time before he went and did that, made us all look complete idiots. Now look at his reputation with
us Spurs fans.

Kane has so far made it clear he doesn’t want to sign a new contract, we’ve had ITK that there’s been discussions over it for at least a year. The fact he hasn’t signed it gives us a pretty good idea he doesn’t want to stay.

Everyone seems fixated on next season as if he’s going to have a massive change of heart and sign a ten year contract next May. The facts so far show that is highly unlikely and I would be dumbfounded if Levy let it go that far.

So yes, I’m happy to take Levy and ENIC to task over everything that’s happened recently, they’re clueless. And no, we aren’t an oil club but we should be able start a very good rebuild with the ample resources we have available without selling Kane.

But, fans should not confuse selling Kane with simply the financial side of things. You may not be an accountant, but unless you are prepared for the possibility of him rocking up holding a Chelsea shirt in 12 months time, you might want to be careful what you wish for.

 

[Styopa]

We have to replace Kane this year or next. (I think we have already done it with Richarlison and Maddison).

We are transitioning to an entirely new style and philosophy the season. We would be better served long-term in getting the new project off the ground with players who will be here long-term. Keep in mind, we probably have to replace Son as early as next summer also.

If you take emotion out of it - as any good chairman should - then, selling Kane this summer, and moving forward makes a lot more sense than keeping Kane for a year, then losing all of his value, and telling the. manager he has to rebuild the team again without the star striker, and without the funds that he could have had this season.

Yes, I think people might be overestimating the value of retaining Kane for one year. For a start, we've had some very poor seasons during the last four years with Kane. It's not like he guarantees a trophy or even top four.

Is he worth keeping for one more year at the cost of, say, eighty million pounds? That depends. Maybe if we finish top four and win a trophy, eighty million is worth it. Perhaps if we were to get relegated without him, he pays for himself, although arguably, we would just be kicking the can down the road to next season. But I don't think he's worth eighty million to help us finish in the Europa League places. And since 2019, we've not even managed to qualify for the Europa League every season.

People can talk about not worrying about the club's money, but whether we make eighty million on a sale or write the fee off completely is bound to impact any transfer budget Levy sets. I can't see any world where Levy does not take that kind of amount of money into account.

 

[Styopa]

The formula is quite simple, if Kane stays next season he will very likely walk for free. If he does that he will have the pick of any club in the world, including someone like Chelsea.

Which, in my view, is a very real possibility now Pochettino is there.

 

[rawhide]

Oh this thread is so tiring.

Instead of an update or insight, we get fanciful speculation and outright guesswork. Or criticism of Harry’s representation or the Club. Or both.

 

[FuturistiC123]

I think Kane is off, good luck to him. Once we know his sale price we will probably move for a second CB. According to Romano we have placed a bid for the young Dutch master.

 

[sundanceyid10]

Need to do both to have any chance of him signing imo.

Whether he stays or goes the future of the club rests on the ambition of the board. Either put up or shove off. If we leave this window short in certain area's again all this talk of change is just more bluster and bluff.

Very true, isn’t it all a bit too late though. All we had to do was build a decent squad around a generational player like Kane, a true goal scorer, the hardest piece of the puzzle to find and we already had it. Yet here we are in the last year of his contract desperately trying to get it done having been through countless managers and awful signings. It is all a bit late. Kane represented such a huge opportunity for our club which in the last few years has been utterly wasted.

I’d be very surprised if Kane has any faith left in Levy after witnessing first hand the arse Levy has made of things over the last few years.

 

[Guernman]

The fact that the only club pushing for Kane is Bayern actually gives Levy some leverage he shouldn’t really have.

If this was City it would be game over. Despite running down his contract and wanting to move to a club that will guarantee trophies there is no way Kane wants to go to Bayern or move his family to Germany.

At the same time he may not want to run his contract down completely. That’s a huge risk for him personally, yes he would get a signing on fee and a choice of clubs but a significant injury between now and then and he and his family could lose millions. It’s a gamble and Kane may not be a gambler

I actually think this could play out any number of ways because Kane will not really like any of his choices this summer. Of course he will consider Bayern but he would have been hoping for other options.

And I think he will also consider signing a new contract with Spurs or an extension if we would even offer that. He will not really want to go to Germany, he wants Shearers record, he doesn’t want to stay at spurs if we continue to spiral, his options aren’t great which is actually good for us

 

[robbiedee]

 

[nicdic]

I'm pretty chill tbh.

Kane's comments around the end of the season talked about sitting down with Levy and people at the club about the direction, when he's back and he talks with Ange and Levy, as well as seeing Maddison come in and the sorts of targets we've made I think there's a reasonable potential that he stays and signs a new contract.

Nice as well to see the Yaya Toure comments saying he should stay and see out his career with us.

 

[IfiHadTheWings]

Well the devil would always be in the detail.

Say you bump him from 200k to 300ka week on a 4 year deal and offer him a 5mil sign on bonus. That is security.

Sure he could get more as a free agent but he could also break a leg halfway through the season and be left without the safety net of a contract.

Also allows him the opportunity of breaking the PL record and moving to another PL club without being seen to screw over the club.

I'm not saying there are no cons but there are certainly pros

Havertz has signed for that lot for 330k a week - the number has to start with a 4 as a minimum to give Harry some thinking to do i would imagine.

 

[alamo]

Havertz has signed for that lot for 330k a week - the number has to start with a 4 as a minimum to give Harry some thinking to do i would imagine.

Absolutely, how else will they cope with the rising price of bread, milk and petrol?

Worlds gone mad.

 

[nicdic]

The rumour going around yesterday was £425k

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

Put a contract in front of him that is the limit of what we think we can do and then put on the table some 'extra curricular' commitments that will ensure his legacy.

£350k + a week
Club captain.

Statue outside the stadium celebrating him as record goal scorer when he retires.
Investment in and exposure for his Foundation.
A member of the board of directors on retirement (Bobby Charlton-esque)


Then it is in his hands. If he turns it down but we feel we have done everything within reason to keep him (other than the direction of the last 4 years.....) then we can be a little more pragmatic in our thinking when it comes to selling him.

 

[Yid-ol]

Put a contract in front of him that is the limit of what we think we can do and then put on the table some 'extra curricular' commitments that will ensure his legacy.

£350k + a week
Club captain.

Statue outside the stadium celebrating him as record goal scorer when he retires.
Investment in and exposure for his Foundation.
A member of the board of directors on retirement (Bobby Charlton-esque)


Then it is in his hands. If he turns it down but we feel we have done everything within reason to keep him (other than the direction of the last 4 years.....) then we can be a little more pragmatic in our thinking when it comes to selling him.

As others have said, even stick in a clause that if we don't make CL or Europe next season we will accept bids of X amount for him to move if he wants to leave.

If he wants to go I can't see him singing, but if he still wants to be here, it might help him at for a year on more money and have a chance to go next season if things don't work out.

 

[ginola99]

The rumour going around yesterday was £425k

Minimum or rising up to?