Harry Kane

[Bluto Blutarsky]

Levy has alot to be blamed for this club, but not selling this unprofessional prick is definitely not one of them.

In an alternate universe if Levy accepted the insulting 100mil, he bangs in all the goals for fun with shitty and I'm bet there will be another hoardes of fans moaning and complaining why did Levy do that.

We did the right thing in not selling him after all his fucking antics and AWOL when there was no acceptable bids coming in. The whole situation now is wholly down to him being a total twat in not performing to a standard he insistently held himself to high regards.

And for the matter I would want him to be sold. But shitty is another part of the equation which there was no reason for us to bow to their insulting offer.

You can stand on principle. But, the failure to sell Kane at the market rate - not the Levy rate - will hurt the club in the long run.

This is a club that has to be self-sustainable, because the owners are not putting in any more of their money. We can't afford to let a £100m player run down his contract - which is where this is headed. Had we strengthened the squad to compete this year for top-4, then you have an argument that keeping Kane has economic value. But, when this is a transition year, it was malpractice to lose Kane's value simply because you thought Kane was worth more.

Sure, it feels good to stand up to the oil club - but that has a cost. And "feeling good" is not going to pay for the next transfer in.

A player is never worth what a selling club wants. A player is always worth what a buying club will pay.


Now, every time I point this out, it ends up with lots of negs, and that is fine - but nobody has yet answered the question: Who was going to pay Levy's rate for Kane last summer? Or who is going to offer even £100m next summer? Everyone seems to assume those offers will still be there.

The harsh reality is that there are simply not enough clubs who can, or will, make such an offer. It does not help that Kane will refuse offers to foreign clubs, but even if that were not true - what club is going to make that offer? None of the traditionally big clubs have that kind of money outside of PSG. The Spanish giants don't have that financial clout right now - and to the extent they can -it won't be to go after Kane. Italian clubs don't have that money. Bayern won't spend that kind of money.

So, now you are left with the English clubs.

United won't spend that money next year - they don't need Kane.

Chelsea won't spend that money next year - they don't need Kane.

Liverpool could potentially use a Kane, but, they have gotten by without a 9 for a while, and certainly not at that price.

Man City - this remains the only viable option - and if they were not going to spend that money for Kane this year, they are highly unlikely to spend it next summer, when Kane is a year older. If Man City really wanted Kane, they would have stumped for him this past summer. They like him, but don't view him as a necessary player.


That is reality. This is headed towards Kane running down his contract - but being miserable while he is here. Or, leaving for a fraction of his value. A negotiated transfer with Man City was the last best chance for Spurs to cash in on the most valuable player they will ever own. The failure to do that will lead to the diminished value of Kane, and the club.


In what world is that good for Spurs?

 

[Harrier]

The hierarchy needs to grow a pair and drop him until he gets his head in gear. If he gets dropped and potentially loses his England place for a few games, it’s maybe enough to shake him out of this fug, as at the moment he just doesn’t look interested.

We looked far more dangerous without Kane against Shitty as we had pace all across the front line.

His dropping deep and then lack of pace to rejoin the attack are killing us at the moment.

 

[Blake Griffin]

Oh the revisionism in here is laughable, if Levy had sold him for that amount there would have been riots ?

In my opinion he isn't firing but hasn't downed tools.

There is a general malaise throughout the team, nobody is creating or getting chances.

if it's any consolation, i was always of the opinion that we should sell and that circa 130m would have been a reasonable price all things considered.

the squad is so short that having a world class striker in their prime becomes somewhat redundant, if he was 24-25 i'd say we have to keep him but at 28 i think we've had his best years and i've always been fearful of his level dropping sooner than most project(i could be wrong). to me it was just the right time to move on and start afresh with some new exciting talent, instead it still feels like we're chained to the previous era and with an asset depreciating by the game. i agree that his current form isn't all on him but he's not helping matters either, we'd be no worse off with him out of the side at the moment.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Imagine this team without Kanes goals and assists. Well at the moment it’s a reality and it’s not pretty

Somewhere around 11th to 14th….

 

[Gilzeanking]

Yeh , with hindsight mebbe we shoulda sold him...but there would have been an outcry if it was circa 100-120k .Levy already under some pressure re manager search shambles etc..plus his machismo re what a great transfer dealer he is , was never going to cave and get called weak .
Kane is often a slow starter to seasons..mebbe this form isn't pure sulk . BUT if he is playing badly the f'gawds sake have the guts to substitute him . Our big win was without him and with a super fast forward line ,so its possible .

 

[ralphs bald spot]

He was good in the first half but looking at the centre forward as the reason we lost yesterday is folly in the extreme

 

[Delboy75]

If this carries on it’s a humongous problem. We clearly looked better with Bergwijn Son Lucas as a front 3. Hopefully sticking him out on the left was first sign Nuno losing patience. At least it’s the NLD next the one big game he usually shows up to.

 

[Trees]

3 month sulk. Destroying his legacy.

 

[ajspurs]

I'm not defending Kane's actions at all here as some of what he's done has been wrong regardless but I still don't like how we've utilised having such a player. I've always said one of the main things we've failed to do is build adequately around our world class player. Year in year out he's seen 'prospects' coming through the door to join Spurs but no one who is even close to the level he's at, no one that's made him think we're really trying to go places. I really thought this summer that would finally change, that if we were to try so hard to keep him, we'd finally build well around him too, especially being linked to say someone like Lautaro Martinez to potentially play alongside him but yet again we couldn't really build a promising set of players around him.

Only thing I think he's done wrong was over the back end of last season and throughout the summer, which has tarnished him and almost devalued his stance, but I can't blame him for being fed up with how we've gone about certain matters on the pitch side of things.

 

[USAYID]

Difficult situation for Levy to be fair. He (and Paratici) didn't know if we needed a backup or a replacement all summer. In the end we got neither and now Kane is phoning it in. Would have like him gone personally but not with City taking the piss.

Not really....the backup was needed whether Kane stayed or went. We didn't even get that position sorted.

 

[wearetheparklane]

Reality is a player of Kane's ability should be challenging for honours and not be playing in the ECL. Yes no one forced him to sign the contract but in the real world it's not as cut and dried as that and although he may well be professional now he is still here etc, do wonder if the motivation is really there. As things stand, breaking into the top is a non starter when you compare ourselves to Chelsea, Utd, City and Liverpool, so do wonder what's going through Kane's mind.

The only thing that'll keep him going is trying to close in and beat Shearer's record imo.

I hear this a lot but I still can't fully grasp it. You mention Alan Shearer and he's a great example - he scored all those goals for a Newcastle side who never challenged for the league after 96. It's a question of loyalty and professionalism.

 

[JCRD]

Again, i wouldnt blame him entirely although he has to accept some blame. I think some of the tactics are totally wrong, i think he is dropping too deep and yeah i think he has mentally checked out, he sees what we see and even some of us are checking out.

We should have negotiated with Man City and come to some sort of agreement to sell Kane, i said this all along as it was a chance for us to use the money to really refresh the squad and reshape things. Reset as it were. Dont take this as me wanting us to accept a derisory figure but we should have been able to negotiate a deal.

 

[wirE]

Woeful ever since the Manchester City debacle. An empty shell left

 

[EQP]

It just shows how much fitness and mentality matters in Premier League.

It's a highly competitive environment and when Kane drops just a little bit in terms of physical ability, he becomes a luxury player.

But it's all part of a bigger picture. Apart from maybe Declan Rice, Jude Bellingham and Luke Shaw, most of the players that played during the Euros are having some problems. Stones is barely playing for City, Mount is a passenger in this Chelsea team, Sterling has only 1 goal in 5 games for City. Most of the starting XI from the NT are not playing well. It's the same for Kane.

Wonder how long it will last. If City had some second thoughts about him after such a great season like last one, they would think even more if getting him would mean getting a 29 year old who desperately needs to revive his form.

No surprise this post got overlooked for the hot take that Kane is sulking. We've seen this before from Kane, where he takes a several games to get up to speed. The team setup in the 1st half of the Chelsea game is exactly how we get the best out of Kane, with the slight alteration of dropping Dele for GLC and having Gil on the right of the attacking 3.

 

[spids]

It is too early in the season to judge either Nuno or Harry Kane. Let's wait and see. Poch's first season we were average until November. In the 'golden years' when Kane scored 30+ goals he always started slowly.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Surely if Kane keeps sulking and doesn’t do much until January then Danny Boy will be on the phone to the oil barons of Manchester

His first 30mins yesterday were decent though. Time will tell

 

[Matthew]

Reality is a player of Kane's ability should be challenging for honours and not be playing in the ECL. Yes no one forced him to sign the contract but in the real world it's not as cut and dried as that and although he may well be professional now he is still here etc, do wonder if the motivation is really there. As things stand, breaking into the top is a non starter when you compare ourselves to Chelsea, Utd, City and Liverpool, so do wonder what's going through Kane's mind.

The only thing that'll keep him going is trying to close in and beat Shearer's record imo.

im sorry but people pandering to him like this fucks me off, the bloke has played in semis & in finals in the biggest club competitions in world football and hasnt turnt up for any of them! and shit himself in the euros missing the pen! he epitomizes what goes through our squad! when the pressure is on, and there is something riding on the result he has no backbone, and is a serial bottler, sooner he goes the better!

 

[Matthew]

People aren't serious considering dropping him for Moura and Berg are they? Those two can't score in a brothel. JUst who do you think will score for us?

We have one goal in open play all season and you want to drop our top scorer of the last decade? I know he's shite at the moment but jesus, Moura and Berg are not viable alternatives. They are useless.

It's a mess. We are fked.

that one goal you mention from open play, kane wasnt on the field, and the system allowed a much more fluid attack with sonny,berg & lucas all changing.

 

[Typical Spurs]

Problem Kane has is he thought he was bigger than us and treated the club like shit.

We saw him getting subbed in England's first 2 games in Euros. He's not irreplaceable which I know sounds mental because of his stats but it's true. It should be no different with us. He isn't bigger than us and when playing shite like he sometimes does or if he's bang out of form like he is, he should be subbed or start on the bench.

Doing what he did in summer and now waltzing around like yesterday. Guy needs to get real. Roy Keane was bang on yesterday with Kanes 'closing down'. Basically said he's running over to look like he's closing down, without any actual desire to win the ball.

 

[MassadaTom]

Reality is a player of Kane's ability should be challenging for honours and not be playing in the ECL. Yes no one forced him to sign the contract but in the real world it's not as cut and dried as that and although he may well be professional now he is still here etc, do wonder if the motivation is really there. As things stand, breaking into the top is a non starter when you compare ourselves to Chelsea, Utd, City and Liverpool, so do wonder what's going through Kane's mind.

The only thing that'll keep him going is trying to close in and beat Shearer's record imo.

He was.....
Failed every time....
I dont know what goes through his mind , but i know what should - need to do better!.