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Fredo

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They'll find a way to get this over the line now I reckon, they're desperate, too much has happened for him to come back from this now
 

Ben1

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They'll find a way to get this over the line now I reckon, they're desperate, too much has happened for him to come back from this now
Depends who ‘they’ is. There’s only one party that’s ‘desperate’ right now, that’s the Kane’s and it isn’t within their control. Spurs and City don’t seem fussed either way.
 

Fredo

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Depends who ‘they’ is. There’s only one party that’s ‘desperate’ right now, that’s the Kane’s and it isn’t within their control. Spurs and City don’t seem fussed either way.
City and Kane - I believe City are just as desperate. Their fans are demanding a top number 9 to replace aguero, I'm certain enough Pep is also banging on the boards door too. Its clear to the eye that if they don't get this over the line, especially with no other real targets, that their transfer window is a failure. They wont do as well without a proper ST. The board will be under immense pressure to get this done, otherwise they look like mugs.
 

Matthew

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Trevor Sinclair saying paying £150 million for Kane is bad for the game then proceeds to agree with the city fan who says they should go get Haaland for £150 million.

that bloke is a fucking moron! shit footballer, and an even worse pundit! what a waste of spunk he was!
 

SpartanSpur

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I wonder if the transfer request will come in line with a new bid of around £140m and that'll get it over the line. I don't know what City are waiting for at this point however, seems the terms are clear.
 

arthurgrimsdell

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It would appear that this is fairly factual now:
  • Kane has wanted out since last summer.
  • Kane wants to join Manchester City.
  • Kane thought he could move this summer if we did not qualify for CL or win a trophy.
  • Kane did an interview, before the end of Spurs season (with Gary Neville) indicating he wanted to leave.
  • Kane thought his price would be around £100M.
Based on the above, which I do not think anyone would dispute, it is easy to see why some more critically minded Spurs fans could:

1. Listen again to what Hugo Lloris said after we crashed out of the Europa League and wonder who he was speaking of:



2. Question Harry's levels of commitment in the games that could have seen us qualify for the CL or win a trophy last season.
I would dispute it.
It has emerged in the public domain that he's wanted out since half way through the previous season, that is: 18 months into his 6 year contract.
Kane wants to leave Tottenham and to join a club where he will get medals. Other clubs have not as yet shown their hand, whether they are interested and if they have the funds. If that were to happen then we would see who he wants to join.
Kane thought he would make the decision about moving. He has been quoted as saying "I'll decide".
The interview with Gary Neville was some time after he let it be publicly known that he "would be leaving" in the summer. This was announced in the week running up to the Carabao Cup Final, accompanied by him letting it be known that he had told Mourinho he was going too, in his hour-long meeting with him on the day of his sacking. It was this news that first angered me intensely about this whole charade, as it showed a complete disregard both for his club and his team mates while they were preparing for a cup final.
Everything that has happened since has been merely par for the course.
I don't believe for one second that Kane thought that Tottenham would want a mere £100 million. This was a ruse in my view emanating from a prospective buyer to get him on the cheap from a club that appeared at that time to be in grave financial difficulties.
Whether or not Lloris was referring to Kane, it has certainly appeared to apply to him.
In my view this has come about because Mourinho told him he was wonderful and that he would make him more wonderful, which in reality meant at the expense of the rest of the team. Kane enthusiastically bought into this notion and thought he was bigger than the club.
I have questioned in my own mind Harry's commitment over the last season, from immediately after the West Ham home game. His heart did not seem to be in it to me, though he would still lash goals in, whether from rebounds or finally arriving in position to score. Some of his performances were atrocious, but he was far from alone in this.
 

wadewill

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I'm now at the point where I think just take the highest offer available by the end of the week.

Even if that's 127m so be it - At the end of the day we've had a fair few years of Harry Kane and won the square root of f*ck all. He'll go to Man City, who'll probably win the league anyway with or without him so really what are we losing by selling him from 130m ish?

We're likely to end up in a similar position with or without him, they're in a similar position and we've got rid of a negative influence in the team and have a 130m that will enable us to move on to our targets.

Basically I'm bored of listening to him and it seems like anything 130m+ in this depressed market would enable us to get at least a couple of decent players in who do want to play for us.

This is the worst thing we could do. Sets an awful precedent
 

SecretLemonadeDrinker

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I'm now at the point where I think just take the highest offer available by the end of the week.

Even if that's 127m so be it - At the end of the day we've had a fair few years of Harry Kane and won the square root of f*ck all. He'll go to Man City, who'll probably win the league anyway with or without him so really what are we losing by selling him from 130m ish?

We're likely to end up in a similar position with or without him, they're in a similar position and we've got rid of a negative influence in the team and have a 130m that will enable us to move on to our targets.

Basically I'm bored of listening to him and it seems like anything 130m+ in this depressed market would enable us to get at least a couple of decent players in who do want to play for us.

The stakes too high for us to cave. This is a line in the sand moment. It is vital that we make a stand. Fail to do so and it will cost us far more in the long run than any potential fallout from Kane staying.
 

spids

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I would just love it if Joe Lewis phoned Levy and said "This ungrateful toe-rag has really upset me now. Hold him to his contract for the full 3 years and let him rot in the reserves. I will personally ensure we have funds to buy Paratici's choice of CF to replace him.".

Goodbye Spurs scoring record. Goodbye EPL scoring record. Goodbye England scoring record. Goodbye any chance of getting a trophy. Goodbye World Cup next year. Spiteful? me? And I would not feel sorry for him as he would just pick up his £200k per week and play golf.

.... and that is the reason it won't happen - he would cost £30M in wages and £100M to replace, and we 'd lose the similar amount we could get for him now. That's a quarter of a billion pounds combined. If only Joe Lewis was as stupid as he is rich. But he's not. So we really need to sell him. Rinse them Levy!
 

wadewill

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I wonder if the transfer request will come in line with a new bid of around £140m and that'll get it over the line. I don't know what City are waiting for at this point however, seems the terms are clear.

How I see it, it’s all on the numpty bros

They have told City £100m would get him
City have thought, we’ll have a bit of that
Speak with Levy, Levy laughs. More like £200m
Kane’s constantly going back to City with new made up figures, which Levy has now got the hump with

If City thought they were going to have to stump up £175m right at the start, they wouldn’t have pursued this.

Kane has played both City and Spurs to a terrible effect.

I don’t actually blame City, I think they might be half saving face
 

olliec

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Are they really? Even with no strikers they won the league by 12 points.
Think it’s going to be a very different season with fans and the fact Chelsea and United have significantly strengthened. I think they won the league last season Because they are used to playing in a library.
 

razor1981

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City and Kane - I believe City are just as desperate. Their fans are demanding a top number 9 to replace aguero, I'm certain enough Pep is also banging on the boards door too. Its clear to the eye that if they don't get this over the line, especially with no other real targets, that their transfer window is a failure. They wont do as well without a proper ST. The board will be under immense pressure to get this done, otherwise they look like mugs.
If City were truly desperate, they wouldn't be pissing about with low-ball bids and playing chicken with the transfer deadline. They have the means to have tied this up at any point over the last few months. The fact that they haven't suggests that they aren't as desperate for the move to happen as Harry clearly is.
 

spids

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I would dispute it.
It has emerged in the public domain that he's wanted out since half way through the previous season, that is: 18 months into his 6 year contract.
Kane wants to leave Tottenham and to join a club where he will get medals. Other clubs have not as yet shown their hand, whether they are interested and if they have the funds. If that were to happen then we would see who he wants to join.
Kane thought he would make the decision about moving. He has been quoted as saying "I'll decide".
The interview with Gary Neville was some time after he let it be publicly known that he "would be leaving" in the summer. This was announced in the week running up to the Carabao Cup Final, accompanied by him letting it be known that he had told Mourinho he was going too, in his hour-long meeting with him on the day of his sacking. It was this news that first angered me intensely about this whole charade, as it showed a complete disregard both for his club and his team mates while they were preparing for a cup final.
Everything that has happened since has been merely par for the course.
I don't believe for one second that Kane thought that Tottenham would want a mere £100 million. This was a ruse in my view emanating from a prospective buyer to get him on the cheap from a club that appeared at that time to be in grave financial difficulties.
Whether or not Lloris was referring to Kane, it has certainly appeared to apply to him.
In my view this has come about because Mourinho told him he was wonderful and that he would make him more wonderful, which in reality meant at the expense of the rest of the team. Kane enthusiastically bought into this notion and thought he was bigger than the club.
I have questioned in my own mind Harry's commitment over the last season, from immediately after the West Ham home game. His heart did not seem to be in it to me, though he would still lash goals in, whether from rebounds or finally arriving in position to score. Some of his performances were atrocious, but he was far from alone in this.

It is not clear which of the bullets I listed as factual you are disputing?
 
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I'm now at the point where I think just take the highest offer available by the end of the week.

Even if that's 127m so be it - At the end of the day we've had a fair few years of Harry Kane and won the square root of f*ck all. He'll go to Man City, who'll probably win the league anyway with or without him so really what are we losing by selling him from 130m ish?

We're likely to end up in a similar position with or without him, they're in a similar position and we've got rid of a negative influence in the team and have a 130m that will enable us to move on to our targets.

Basically I'm bored of listening to him and it seems like anything 130m+ in this depressed market would enable us to get at least a couple of decent players in who do want to play for us.

Seems like your post has gone down like a cheeky little fart in a small room, but it's well reasoned enough.

I'm not fully sure where I stand on such an offer. I still maintain that one of these modern 'loan with obligation' things is likely to be the 'best' option for us if we did sell, as it would block him from playing against us, and they could bridge any 'fee pride' with loan fees (like we've done with GLC etc). 2 year loan (say £25-30m a season, maybe some extras) with obligation around the £100m mark, and that would cover most bases. Can't play us, gets his move, saves them justifying the up front, overall numbers get near etc.

Last time I mentioned that I got pelters (no elaboration, mind), so I best buckle up :cautious:
 

Pekoni

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Only Harry could tell his brother to “take a backseat on the PR” and hire someone equally bad to do the job :LOL:
 

Trix

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Importantly he still trains and plays professionally when called upon. No leaks to the press also.
He was very clear and upfront with everyone. He loved the club but wanted to try something different, in what is a pretty short career. He ran his contract down in order to make the move happen. He could have held on 6 more months and taken all the money himself. He left when it suited everyone.
Seems like your post has gone down like a cheeky little fart in a small room, but it's well reasoned enough.

I'm not fully sure where I stand on such an offer. I still maintain that one of these modern 'loan with obligation' things is likely to be the 'best' option for us if we did sell, as it would block him from playing against us, and they could bridge any 'fee pride' with loan fees (like we've done with GLC etc). 2 year loan (say £25-30m a season, maybe some extras) with obligation around the £100m mark, and that would cover most bases. Can't play us, gets his move, saves them justifying the up front, overall numbers get near etc.

Last time I mentioned that I got pelters (no elaboration, mind), so I best buckle up :cautious:
Then what happens if he gets injured and can't fulfil his loan obligations?
 
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