Harry Kane

[carpediem991]

Not sure why people are laughing about Ronaldo. Mendes his agent is Nuno best mate and Paratici already bought him once. It’s just the sort of PR stunt levy would love to pull off.

Because surely Ronaldo is creaming himself about the idea playing in the Conference League with Moussa Sissoko and Harry Winks.

 

[xtraalollipops]

The real tragedy of all of this is that many people, me included, actively support City when it comes to beating the likes of Liverpool/Chelsea/Arsenal/Man United to trophies.

Why?

Because it's meaningless. We know they're bought trophies. You're not a real rival because to lose to Oil Slavers is just a shrug of the shoulders. Losing a title/Cup to Liverpool or Everton or Arsenal fucking burns because they are on a far more level playing field.

So... you're not fucking persecuted. You are beyond being persecuted. The whole football world has given a collective shrug to your owners sportwashing ways because we've all become conditioned to do so.

It's a tragedy. We should all be up in arms over what City and PSG's owners are doing. So should City fans.

Do I blame you? No. Many Spurs fans wish for an Oil Slave owner to come do the same.

That's the most depressing part.

But a tipping point is being reached. If Kane and Grealish are going to take the knee in support of the racism experienced by their fellow POC footballers (which is absolutely fine) - why aren't they taking a knee in support of the minority labourers worked to death in the UAE? If not, why not? Who decides which racism is worth standing up to and which is not? Pep is an outspoken activist for Catalan rights. WHy is taking the shilling of a sportwashing regime? Why does the media never call him out on this?

It's because we have kidded ourselves that they're not the same thing. But they are.

Therein lies the tragedy.

I don't blame you at all. But what @rez9000 wrote is truth.

You're all naive to the fact no amount of millions or billions was ever made off the backs of good, honest work.

Come on mate there is a bit of difference between corruption over aviation and gambling when city’s owners political values aim at murderous, racist, sexist and homophobic ideology.

My whole point at the beginning was why is is constantly brought up when I am talking about Harry Kane or something else.

Why am I told my club is worthless or my owners are horrific? What do you want me to do? I'm not the sheikh. I'm not fifa or eufa?

I'm a football fan, who can't really do anything about who or what state runs my club?

I can go to football, watch football, support football and talk about football.

What I can't do is get rid of my owners?

 

[WalkerboyUK]

Not sure why people are laughing about Ronaldo. Mendes his agent is Nuno best mate and Paratici already bought him once. It’s just the sort of PR stunt levy would love to pull off.

Pretty sure he has previously stated along the lines of never going back to a country he’s won a title in.
England - done
Spain - done
Italy - done
France - not been there yet

Next move for him will be PSG, Bayern or an MLS team IMO

 

[rez9000]

Gambling is an addiction used by betting companies to coax every last cent out of someone and if you think differently then you're naive.
Aston Villa spent 100m before wanting to sell grealish.
Google what the Palang Pracharath Party is and you'll see how good they are.

If you're gonna call one team out for corruption then call them all out. Otherwise you're just cherrypicking for who's good enough and bad enough in your eyes.

Still whataboutism, chap. You need to reconcile yourself to the fact that you can't excuse your club's reprehensible behaviour by citing someone else's. That would be like me mugging you and then trying to get out of being prosecuted by saying that muggings happen every day.

 

[Delboy75]

Because surely Ronaldo is creaming himself about the idea playing in the Conference League with Moussa Sissoko and Harry Winks.

Or if he watched Sunday and saw one of the best atmospheres in world football playing with Kane and Son. We aren’t exactly Palace or Watford. People really under sell our pull we were CL finalists 2 years ago.

 

[sausage]

Playing within the FFP rules is Alan Bradley, and City are the Tram trundling along the front at Blackpool?

I can think of an interesting one

 

[Amo]

You're all naive to the fact no amount of millions or billions was ever made off the backs of good, honest work.


My whole point at the beginning was why is is constantly brought up when I am talking about Harry Kane or something else.

Why am I told my club is worthless or my owners are horrific? What do you want me to do? I'm not the sheikh. I'm not fifa or eufa?

I'm a football fan, who can't really do anything about who or what state runs my club?

I can go to football, watch football, support football and talk about football.

What I can't do is get rid of my owners?

Sure but if my club was owned by one of those states that literally employed slave labour to build white elephant high-rises that are mostly empty to use as glorified billboards despite affording to pay their workers the highest salaries anywhere on earth then I'd stop supporting that club.

Even if not to take a political stand, but I just wouldn't be able to enjoy a $100m signing in the knowledge a fraction of that fee would allow those slaves to live dignified lives and get paid for toiling away constructing luxury buildings for use by a gratuitously rich minority ethnic elite.

 

[Dakes]

This article in the iNews sums it up perfectly (worth reading the entire article)

Link: Harry Kane risks destroying part of what made him special if he ditches Tottenham for Man City

"If Kane does join Manchester City, you wonder whether he has fully comprehended how his reputation will change forever. Or, to be more pointed, how much of Kane’s emergence and subsequent consistency was founded upon his presence at his boyhood club, his ability to be the focal point of the team and the enduring love of the supporters who were proud to call him theirs? He was them and they were him. Those two threads have been untangled until Kane stands alone.

Gone will be the blue-eyed boy and the one-club man. Gone will be Kane’s connection with supporters that extended beyond a voracious desire to win the biggest trophies in the game. Gone will be the stereotype of Kane as the selfless captain who so desperately wanted to win with his mates in a particular stadium. He will be simply the latest mega-signing striker, the gun for hire bought by the richest club in the world because they could. Gone will be the mythical striker who rose out of nowhere, replaced by a tangible asset and a large number on the balance sheet. Gone will be “Tottenham’s Harry Kane”; just “Harry Kane”."

No more focal points in the team for me please.

 

[Pochie]

Claptrap.

If Spurs had your owners I would stop supporting them and giving them my money until those owners were gone. I'd give that money and support to my local EFL team instead. Don't want that blood on my hands thanks. I won't be watching next years world cup as similarly, I don't want that blood on my hands. If that makes me "less" of a fan, so be it.

No I won't stop looking at your club, because your club is the most egregious of all clubs in the PL, by some considerable distance.

Besides, twitter said it best, "Winning a trophy with City is like losing your virginity to a prostitute". You lot might think the ends justifies the means, that doesn't mean everyone does.

Hey, comparing prositutes to a murderous regime is off tbh.

 

[carpediem991]

Or if he watched Sunday and saw one of the best atmospheres in world football playing with Kane and Son. We aren’t exactly Palace or Watford. People really under sell our pull we were CL finalists 2 years ago.

Get off the Playstation.

Hard reality is we are known as a club that bottles, CR7 is never ever going to join our rebuild project. According to reports we get no's from Pau Torres or Jules Kounde and probably even our Gareth Bale was fine enough going back to Madrid. There is no real pull. We are in Europa a team I would rank between 10 and 20, certain players are far out of our reach.

 

[DarwinSpur]

I can go to football, watch football, support football and talk about football.

What I can't do is get rid of my owners?

You could talk about what your owners represent.

Then you can talk about how they bought you great football and trophies.

And then you can recall City's roots as a working man's club and what it means to you.

Then you can make a value judgement and OWN IT.

What you don't get to do is come on here and pretend like you're not making a choice. You are. And your choice is your joy at a few cups over the deaths and human rights abuses your Club's owners are using your club to Sportwash away.

It's your choice.

Own it.

 

[Darth Vega]

You're all naive to the fact no amount of millions or billions was ever made off the backs of good, honest work.


My whole point at the beginning was why is is constantly brought up when I am talking about Harry Kane or something else.

Why am I told my club is worthless or my owners are horrific? What do you want me to do? I'm not the sheikh. I'm not fifa or eufa?

I'm a football fan, who can't really do anything about who or what state runs my club?

I can go to football, watch football, support football and talk about football.

What I can't do is get rid of my owners?

No one is criticising you, the average everyday Manchester City fan. This is why these conversations are so difficult, because the average fan will get defensive of their club when others attack it.

I've been supporting Spurs my whole life, my dad has been going since 1975 - it's in the blood. If we were to get bought out tomorrow by owners similar to yours it would be no more our fault than you with your owners. Nor, for that matter, could I stop loving the club; the same can be said of you. I might refuse to give them my money, but even then I can't say in full confidence that that would be the case - I'd talk a good game but I could just as easily see myself getting cold feet when push came to shove.

When we criticise Man City in the way that we have been (the owners) it's not a criticism of you, the fan, nor is it a criticism of Pep, Mancini, Pellegrini, Stuart Pearce, De Bruyne, Kompany, Richard Dunne, or anyone associated with the club past or present that's below board level.

However, as others have pointed out, the criticisms (of the owners) are still valid and not spoken about nearly enough; whether we're talking about the amount of money in football, or more importantly, the horrific atrocities committed by the owners themselves.

 

[Silky Skills]

Man City have been blanked in each of their last three competitive matches. They need Kane a lot more than Spurs need Kane…

mmmmmm, not sure - of our starting eleven on Sunday:

Two FBs have never scored for us
Two CBS barely scored last year
Pierre and Oliver might get 5 between them
Dele could get anywhere from none to double figures
Stevie and Moura might get ten between them
Son will get 10+

......... that is not a lot of goals

 

[McFlash]

Please tell my why Leicester are seen as this fairytale club then?

They have owners in Thailand who support a right wing militaristic government and give them money at fundraisers? People in Thailand hate King Power and their monopoly over that aviation industry as well.

Why is that never brought up? Spend well out of their means every season and that wins them trophies.

Liverpool are literally owned by an American gambling company who make millions off an addiction - along with numerous other clubs.

My point is that City's owners are not saints and never will be but it is only ever brought up with City or Chelsea.

It is tiring hearing the same monotonous bullshit everyday, you clearly don't care about the morals in football because you do not give a shit about any other wrongdoing?

People who act like they really care about these things, can't actually care as there is so much wrongful shit happening within the prem, the fa, fifa, uefa.

You only call it out when someone else is winning all the trophies.

Pretty sure Aston Villa have a saudi prince or something? Just spent £100 mil but you're quiet?

Leicester and Villa are relatively new to the spending scheme but throughout this site, you'll find many people questioning their owners.
Leicester also get plenty of grief for their ridiculous wage to turnover ratio.

Unfortunately for you, City have been top of the pile for a while and have spent an outrageous amount of money, much seemingly gained by dodgy means.
That's why you're the biggest target for people's ire.

The Foxes and Villa will start getting more attention soon, in fact someone placed a very interesting stat in one of the threads here, showing how much each clubs owners have pumped in to each club.
It's no surprise who the top few clubs were and I think it's certainly going to get a lot more attention, given the current climate.

 

[Skilo]

You're all naive to the fact no amount of millions or billions was ever made off the backs of good, honest work.


My whole point at the beginning was why is is constantly brought up when I am talking about Harry Kane or something else.

Why am I told my club is worthless or my owners are horrific? What do you want me to do? I'm not the sheikh. I'm not fifa or eufa?

I'm a football fan, who can't really do anything about who or what state runs my club?

I can go to football, watch football, support football and talk about football.

What I can't do is get rid of my owners?

You're being naive thinking that your owners and huge transfer deals funded by bloodmoney can't be spoken about in the same breath.

I have supported this club for over 30 years but personally wouldn't think twice about dropping them if they took us over. It would be like finding out your dad is a peado after loving him all your life and then standing by him.

 

[rez9000]

You're all naive to the fact no amount of millions or billions was ever made off the backs of good, honest work.


My whole point at the beginning was why is is constantly brought up when I am talking about Harry Kane or something else.

Why am I told my club is worthless or my owners are horrific? What do you want me to do? I'm not the sheikh. I'm not fifa or eufa?

I'm a football fan, who can't really do anything about who or what state runs my club?

I can go to football, watch football, support football and talk about football.

What I can't do is get rid of my owners?

But you can refuse to buy the matchday ticket, or the shirt, or take out the Sky subscription or any manner of other thing.

What you're really saying is that you don't want to do that. And that's fair enough - you're not required to. But you can't jump into the sewer while refusing to accept that it stinks.

Own it. If you want to be a Man City supporter, that's your prerogative, but parallel to that choice is the acceptance of what your club's owners are.

 

[Amo]

mmmmmm, not sure - of our starting eleven on Sunday:

Two FBs have never scored for us
Two CBS barely scored last year
Pierre and Oliver might get 5 between them
Dele could get anywhere from none to double figures
Stevie and Moura might get ten between them
Son will get 10+

......... that is not a lot of goals

The goal distribution and overall yield would shift dramatically once the team adapts to playing without a monolithic focal point like Kane.

 

[Trix]

Not sure why people are laughing about Ronaldo. Mendes his agent is Nuno best mate and Paratici already bought him once. It’s just the sort of PR stunt levy would love to pull off.

WAGES!!!!!!

 

[chas vs dave]

Leicester and Villa are relatively new to the spending scheme but throughout this site, you'll find may people questioning their owners.
Leicester also get plenty of grief for their ridiculous wage to turnover ratio.

Unfortunately for you, City have been top of the pile for a while and have spent an outrageous amount of money, much seemingly gained by dodgy means.
That's why you're the biggest target for people's ire.

The Foxes and Villa will start getting more attention soon, in fact someone placed a very interesting stat in one of the threads here, showing how much each clubs owners have pumped in to each club.
It's no surprise who the top few clubs were and I think it's certainly going to get a lot more attention, given the current climate.

That was me

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

If you must, start a thread on all of this Man City/owners stuff in the D&D forum. This thread is so you can vent at Harry Kane, not whatever it is that's prompted all this.