Harry Kane

[rossdapep]

Mahrez, Sterling, Laporte, Dias, Stones, Ederson, De Bruyne, Walker, Grealish, Fernandinho, Foden, Goater, Dickov, Franny Lee and £100M and then I’d consider it.

Still not enough.

Now if you added Steve Howey, I'd consider it a good deal.

 

[Aphex]

Perhaps they thought the pandemic had hit us hard and we needed to cash in? I mean if Kane has told them I have an agreement that I can leave for £100mil because we aren't in Europe I can see why they chance their arm.

Anyway lets hope they somehow come in with an acceptable amount and we move on.

I'm just very doubtful they will.

I'll be honest I can see Kane in their colours this season and not so much in ours.

However what I can't see is City coming even remotely close to an acceptable figure.

Be interesting to see how it plays out, but we really need to sign a striker regardless. We are going into the season strikerless, it's a disaster.

 

[easley91]

I am sure there was a conversation and Harry likely received assurances along the lines of not blocking a fair bid, but I just can't see Levy putting a specific number on that, I mean why would he. If this was last summer, we were in the middle of the pandemic with no idea when matchday revenues would ever return.

There has also been contradictions from the Kane camp, he mentions £100 million to Neville, but the Sun story quotes £160 million. If the gentlemen's agreement was specific why would they quote a larger number in a story which they were obviously behind.

Both clubs denied the Sun claim though. The only bid we know of is £100m which isn't a fair bid when you consider what Grealish has gone for, and what Lukaku is reportedly available for. Gentleman's agreement or not, no reasonable offer has come in and may very well not come in at all now.

 

[topper]

Is that prick still with our club, fuck of HK u snake

I take real exception to this post - it’s ‘off’ not ‘of’!!

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Mourinho's big mistake was telling Levy what he wanted to hear about the strength of our squad. Our CBs aren't top half material let alone top 4. Paratici has obviously highlighted this so I am actually much more optimistic about this season. We have quality attacking players, with or without Harry, but we can't go into every game knowing we will be essentially starting from at least 0-1 down

I keep seeing this line being parroted on here and I don't agree. Mourinho is never going to just tell people what they want to hear - the guy has the biggest ego in football! I think it's more likely that he over estimated the quality of our squad based on the previous good job Poch had done. Poch's strength was getting the team to function as collective unit that didn't only rely on individual quality. Whereas Mourinho seems to solely rely on individual quality. And this is why the squads flaws were fatally exposed.

Those same CBs - Davinson, Dier, Toby - had all previously performed to a high level when the team was functioning as a unit. They had played in sides that had finished top 4 prior to Mourinho, so it's a fallacy to say that they 'aren't top half material'.

 

[poc]

He will be desperate to lead England in the WC, so he will perform even if he has to stay. Guess the dressing room may be a bit frosty though.

Doubt it all players know how this shit works and how cut throat it is I would imagine some of what he has done is down to conversations with

Anyone else petrified about how we will do on the pitch without Kane?

He carried us last season (to 7th), in the second half of the season we were regularly being outplayed by relegation candidates. Without Kane we are probably struggling to make top 10 with the current squad. (Perhaps worse)

We currently have three players (son, peh and lloris) that are good enough, we wouldn't be that bothered if we sold the majority of the other players.

We are relying on a 21 year old to boss it after one good season in the championship.

We currently have 1 striker on the books without Kane (and that's if you call son a striker).

If you made a list of all our midfield players, the only one you wouldn't sell is hoijberg.

We have sold our best defender and none of the others could be described as having had a good season.

We have a new manager and any new players will need time to settle. We are apparently reliant on selling 5/6 players to bring more players in (Romero apart) which given the ability of those players is optimistic to think we will sell them for a reasonable fee.

Pep said 'the Harry Kane team'. It was disrespectful and shows the class (or lack there of) from that club.

But he wasn't wrong.

At this point I'm glad we got in Nuno (as an experienced pl manager) because if we'd have taken a punt on Gerard or someone who lacked experience in this league we could be pulled into a relegation battle.

We are relying on Dele, Lucas, ndombele, GLC and bergwijn to bring an attacking threat (son apart). That is depressing, let's hope Fabio can work miracles, because he really has to.

That poch spurs team of 2016/17 would absolutely pulverise us at the moment. We have dropped (and are dropping) like a stone.

Kane is being an absolute dick in the way he is going about it, but he would be fucking stupid to stay with us given the direction we are going, boyhood club or not.

When he has been injured we have done pretty well. If we invest well and we adapt properly to a new style of play I am optimistic tbh. I just dont think we will get anywhere with Son, Lucas, Stevie and Dele for me thats carrying too many lightweight players.

 

[Cinemattis]

Lukaku is in the same bracket as Kane, Lewa, Haaland etc. He is elite. His goal tally speaks for itself and he has been outstanding in two consecutive international tournaments. If Lukaku is gonna go for £110m (130m euros) then I think £150m for Kane considering English tax but also his history with injuries (whether he is prone or not) + age (older than Lukaku) is fair. Obviously this comparison is flawed as you could argue Inter need the money more and whatnot but in general terms I don't think Kane is worth loads more than Lukaku.

Lukaku is actually older than Kane by ca. 2 1/2 months.
Lukaku has played 252 matches in the PL and scored 113 goals and added 42 assists. He´s scored 11 goals and laid on 1 assist in 20 matches (World Cup and Euros).
Harry´s numbers are: 245 PL-matches with 166 goals and 38 assists. In the World Cup and Euros he has one golden boot, 17 matches, 11 goals 0 assists.

Internationally they are on more or less the same numbers in the tournaments you mentioned. In the PL Harry is simply on a different level than Lukaku: more than 50 goals more in less amount of matches. That added to the very fact he´s HG AND a talisman for the selling club makes the price go up.

But i totally agree with you that Lukaku is in a very elite and small group of strikers. I would probably add Mbappe in that group too, but I´ve always been a bit weak for most things French ...

 

[freeeki]

Wait so what’s happened now sorry?

City have lost interest?

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

We have over the last 5-6 years had huge problems with the HG-balance of our squad. If HK leaves, it´s easy to say we can replace him with this or that foreign striker. I´m not saying that anyone has said that Vlahovic or any other strikers we´ve been rumoured to be looking at could actually replace HK, but more to come in and do a job as a striker.

But in my mind, ideally, we should look for players that qualify as HG. The huge problem in that aspect, though, is the obvious lack of HG players at the right level of quality we would like to see come to our club. Many here expressed that Danny Ings could´ve been agood signing for us (at the right price). He´s going to Villa now.

But what are the other options available to us? And what would they cost?

A couple of benchmarks have already been set:
Grealish = £100M
Ings = 25 + 5 -> £30M
Lukaku = £110-130M (apparently)

But what are the options to us? If we, for argument sake, say we want someone that is (A) HG; (B) within an acceptable age range (i.e. max age of 28-29 for example); and (C) of a decent quality - who could we feasibly attract and get their clubs to the negotiating table? A quick look at the other PL clubs:

Arsenal: none
Aston Villa: Ollie Watkins
Brentford: Ivan Toney - but would they even contemplate selling him? I bet a lot of their hopes of surviving in the PL is placed on his shoulders.
Brighton: none
Burnley: none
Chelsea: Tammy Abraham - would Chelsea deal with us, and would he come to us? At the right price and given that HK is not there to compete; a possible ´yes´ on both?
Crystal Palace: none
Everton: Dominic Calvert-Lewin
Leeds: Patrick Bamford - the late bloomer is already 27 (28 in september), and has a strong position at Leeds. I would suspect both player and club would be reluctant for a this move.
Leicester: Kelechi Iheanacho - after the arrival of Daka, is he still seen as the long term replacement for Vardy? Breakthrough season of sorts last year: would he want to come to us?
Liverpool: none
Man City: none (and of their attacking players that qualify, neither Sterling nor Foden would even contemplate coming to us).
Man Utd: Marcus Rashford - neither club nor player would be interested.
Man Utd: Mason Greenwood - it´s extremely unlikely, the price would be enormous, and at 19 he´s still more of a talent than an accomplished senior player.
Man Utd: Jesse Lingard - will be 29 in December, and the reports say that he prefers to stay at MU and fight for a place rather than go back to Spammers on a permanent deal. And he isn´t a striker either.
Newcastle: none
Norwich: none
Southampton: none
Watford: none
West Ham: none
Wolves: none

From all the PL clubs there aren´t that many options.

There were media reports last summer saying we were interested in Ollie Watkins. I can´t really remeber if any of our ITKs said that we were after him though. But after only one season at Villa, and seeing the success he enjoyed there, it would probably take an formidable bid to make the club interested. Especially as their coffers are full of 70 million reasons to say no (Grealish minus Ings).

The best choice in my opinion, both looking at the age and the quality of the player, would be Dominic Calvert-Lewin. I´m no agent or club owner, but given other prices in the market and the importance of the player to the club, i could easily imagine him being priced up to somewhere in the region of £75-80M? I have a hard time seeing Everton being very interested in a £50M bid from a rival PL club. But I might be very wrong of course.

I think we could get the player interested though: "filling the empty spot after Kane", playing in London for a (slightly) bigger club, higher wages, better team mates, etc.

The point is: to replace Harry Kane with someone of good quality (with a high ceiling), that is both HG and PL-proven would be very costly.

Lazy post

 

[Jocksants]

Over on the bluemoon forum "Just heard that the deal is losing momentum. City not willing to meet Spurs demands on fee so only way this’ll happen is if we sell Bernardo and Laporte."

 

[easley91]

Is that prick still with our club, fuck of HK u snake

Why you telling a whole country to f off?

 

[IamSpurtacus]

City are still at fault for not questioning the £100m figure.

It's the footballing equivalent of following a link to buy a brand new ipad for £99.

It's no different to Wenger "exercising" Suarez's release clause with a 42M+1 quid bid and being told to do one

Worth a punt even if it doesn't come off, which is probably what has happened here

 

[McFlash]

Wait so what’s happened now sorry?

City have lost interest?

Not sure they really had any interest, only when they were led to believe that they may get him cheap.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

City are still at fault for not questioning the £100m figure.

It's the footballing equivalent of following a link to buy a brand new ipad for £99.

Your link does not seem to work.

 

[Cinemattis]

Lazy post

YOU are lazy!

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

YOU are lazy!

Whatev

 

[freeeki]

Not sure they really had any interest, only when they were led to believe that they may get him cheap.

Going to be hugely awkward for Kane if this goes tits up and City back off.

I can’t see United coming in. The Spanish giants don’t have the money. We won’t sell to Chelsea and they’re fine for strikers. Bayern don’t need him.

His only remaining plausible option who could stump up the cash would be PSG.

Either that, or he’d have to come back with his tail between his legs.

 

[McFlash]

Going to be hugely awkward for Kane if this goes tits up and City back off.

I can’t see United coming in. The Spanish giants don’t have the money. We won’t sell to Chelsea and they’re fine for strikers. Bayern don’t need him.

His only remaining plausible option who could stump up the cash would be PSG.

Either that, or he’d have to come back with his tail between his legs.

He's really painted himself into a corner with his behaviour.
And I'm not sure PSG will interest him because it doesn't appear like he wants to move abroad.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

His only remaining plausible option who could stump up the cash would be PSG.

Given the various reports that Kane helped Poch get the sack, I would say that could be an awkward reunion...


(But Kane won't go to a foreign club, and risk not getting the PL scoring record)

 

[Yantino]

Wait so what’s happened now sorry?

City have lost interest?

I'm not sure they were ever really interested in the first place. Not at the valuation we have of the player. Which is where the issue is and why Kane has been a very very silly boy.

he is now effectively in limbo.