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JCRD

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Ive said the same about Haaland all along, but there is some logic in going for Kane now too so can’t really blame them. If they miss out they can still go for Haaland next summer.

Kane is the finished article and particularly in the league and has a far better all round game so i also see the logic but he is double what Haaland is and at an older age...
 

Maxtremist

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I'd generally been willing to give Kane the benefit of the doubt. Sure him and his bro had handled a few things wrong but cases could have been argued on both sides about how we've let Kane down with building a squad and a team and capitalising when we were going so well... and then the other side of how we did keep getting so close and despite Kane being so good for us, in those big crunch time moments whether through injuries or other issues he didn't show up for us.

But if he's fully going on strike and not coming to training at all then any doubt, any goodwill, any love in that sense dies. quite frankly.

I don't wanna say his legend status dies. You look at Rooney, you look at Gerrard and they both fully tried to leave United and Liverpool respectively but couldn't force their way out and stayed and fought for the club and still are legends there. So not like Kane can never become a legend long term if he stays and fights for us... but him fully ducking training and it not just being a one day thing is burning so many bridges and a mark on his legacy.
 

Snarfalicious

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City could throw us a few of their best Academy players, while they are at it. Let’s turn this into a Major League Baseball type trade haul and get Laporte and their best up and coming talent along with a sizable amount of cash. Build up the youth system again and inject quality and money into the first team squad. Or just tell them (and now Harry) to eat shit.
 

thelak

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Exactly. This is out there but maybe Kane should have insisted on a real buyout clause in his contract to avoid this.
Gentleman's agreement....joker

Its 2021 not 1921

what sort of idiot rests his career ambitions on a gentleman’s agreement in the age of water right contracts and a huge legal industry
 

Littleharry

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Devastating that his time will end with us leaving a bitter taste in the mouth. I really didn’t think he would act like this, but I suppose you never know what Levy promised him last year. If he is not going to be sold old slap head needs to come out and say it is not going to happen and let Harry sulk away for a few weeks.
 

vicbob

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And why aren’t we the best thing for Kane?

Because we are not a financially doped club who can buy anything they want.
Levy has massive faults, but he was never going to take us down that road, rightly or wrongly he runs us as a business, not as a play thing.
 

bat-chain

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The more that comes out the worse his position seems to be, we have to stand firm it’s disgraceful what he's doing. Not only is he damaging the club now by leaving he's trying to hurt it's future but lowering the fee.

Does really seem he's been groomed or altered in some way, it's actually strange.
 

Dougal

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Maybe we were blind to how Harry Kane FC he was all along. There's a reason every single other fanbase can't stand him (and that's not just because he scored against them). Harry Claim etc. Maybe we forgave him all that because he's been truly an amazing player for us, and we just assumed he loved the club that he's been with forever and wanted to literally Greaves himself into our history.

Maybe if we look back on his time with us without the Spurs tints, we might see some stuff we were deliberately blind to.

If he's not fit for a game for City, he doesn't get to walk into the team. If he has an off game or doesn't score for an entire month, their fans will demand blood. We're like "it's Harry, of course he'll be OK".

The "Gentleman's Agreement" stuff is also a load of bollocks. You can say there was one, even when there wasn't - no-one can prove it. The same for Bale and Modric.

Also, I expect the agreement was, if there's a decent fee we'll let you go. There's not even been a bid yet has there?
I’ve never been blind to Kane. He’s always been ruthless and focussed and yes, this has played to our advantage. But he’s never had the character of Son for example. So I’ve taken him as he is. But that doesn’t mean he wouldn’t be fully behind staying at Spurs had we been run as a football club. Levy, in general, has been a shambles in that respect. He hides behind ‘To Dare is To Do’ while footballing wise (and I have to keep saying that because away from football he runs things differently as it’s not quite so dependant on the kick of a ball) he’s been anything but daring. Get into the Champions League, compete for the top players, win trophies. The first makes money, the second costs money and the third is a dream. Which one did we do?
 

sundanceyid10

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That I will 100% agree with. Was mainly challenging the idea of it not being a sport. It's still a sport but they're just stacking the deck
I don’t think it’s a sport when you have sponsorship deals rigged in a way to fund your club that other clubs cannot do, and the people overseeing the sport do nothing.
 

Dougal

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Why would Kane agree to do this if City were bidding at a level acceptable to Levy? His reputation is taking a massive knock, and not just to Spurs fans. All Spurs fans are aware of his wish to leave after his unprofessional interview with Gary Neville before the end of the season.

I blame Levy for allowing us to slide so much in 3 years that he's desperate to leave but I refuse to believe Harry is being forced to do this.

We all knew Kane was driven and ambitious and is after the highest individual and team accolades. It seems that ambition dwarfs any affection he has for the club.

Levy wants to keep his top players, that's one thing I wouldn't hold against him. The Berbatov/Frazier Campbell debacle wouldn't have happened otherwise.
The bid will come. The groundwork goes in first. The creation of the scapegoat. Levy can’t do a deal without it.
 

Indisguise

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Some of you need to have a word with yourselves. Harry Kane has remained with this Club for way longer than he should have done. He'd be staying if Levy had made the right choices over the last few years. Kane truly loved the Club and gave it his best years for a lot less money than he'd have made elsewhere. It's Levy's fault. Levy didn't get the players in when we needed them and Levy fucked up the Club's trajectory, not Kane.
 

Dougal

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Because we are not a financially doped club who can buy anything they want.
Levy has massive faults, but he was never going to take us down that road, rightly or wrongly he runs us as a business, not as a play thing.
And there’s no middle ground? Sometimes he just spent no money at all. At the very moment when to dare was most likely to do. Change the motto. It has no relation to ENIC Spurs.
 

MillerT

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That I will 100% agree with. Was mainly challenging the idea of it not being a sport. It's still a sport but they're just stacking the deck
City essentially play with two decks of cards. Thier win last season was probably the least impressive prem title ever for me, given the ridiculous rotation of players
 

Spartanspurs

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The bid will come. The groundwork goes in first. The creation of the scapegoat. Levy can’t do a deal without it.
Why would Levy lay the groundwork in a way that weakens our negotiating position? Whether we like it or not, Kane refusing to train weakens our position and I cannot see what we/Levy gets out of it.
 

Supersi32

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Some of you need to have a word with yourselves. Harry Kane has remained with this Club for way longer than he should have done. He'd be staying if Levy had made the right choices over the last few years. Kane truly loved the Club and gave it his best years for a lot less money than he'd have made elsewhere. It's Levy's fault. Levy didn't get the players in when we needed them and Levy fucked up the Club's trajectory, not Kane.

Don't sign 6 year contracts then....simples.

Levy has his well documented and argued flaws....

Harry Kane is a prick.
 
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And why aren’t we the best thing for Kane?

We saw his main motivation on AoN - he wants to be heralded with Messi and Cristiano.

He probably doesn't care about being the greatest goalscorer for Tottenham, but the greatest for England and in the Premier League.


Players who win or are nominated for the Ballon D'or etc are, quite often not the best players, but the best players at the best clubs. He wants the X-Factor, and I don't even think it's about pay or trophies - I think he wants to be on a pedestal, and he'll likely think that he'll get that at City.

Maybe he thinks he can score even more there and break some sort of Messi-type scoring record.
 

lukadownthelane

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If he doesn’t turn up today I hope the club make a statement to the effect of pay up or shut up as well as highlighting the unsettling of a player with 3 years on a contract.
 

Legacy

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initial summary:

After an eventful day that Kane hopes will force Spurs’ hand and smooth the way for his desired move to Manchester City, The Athletic can reveal that:
  • Tottenham’s position is that they will not sell to another Premier League club under any circumstances (as was the case when they moved on Luka Modric and Gareth Bale). Sources at the club also insist that no “gentleman’s agreement” has ever been made.
This is the only thing I care about. Honestly, I'm done with him and genuinely don't care if he never plays for us again. Just make him go abroad. Let him pick what he values more, trophies or Shearer's record. Don't give him the pleasure of going for both.
 

dontcallme

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Some of you need to have a word with yourselves. Harry Kane has remained with this Club for way longer than he should have done. He'd be staying if Levy had made the right choices over the last few years. Kane truly loved the Club and gave it his best years for a lot less money than he'd have made elsewhere. It's Levy's fault. Levy didn't get the players in when we needed them and Levy fucked up the Club's trajectory, not Kane.
I just don't think it's a black and white issue. No single party is to blame and ENIC getting things wrong does not absolve Kane of criticism.
 
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