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Spartanspurs

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Just because people think objectively and in an unbiased manner doesnt mean theyre desperate.

I am pretty sure if this was someone else doing it - there would be a lot more moaning about it on here... i mean you see it all the time where someone does something and all of a sudden there is constant moaning about it. Its just because it is Kane that we dont.

Yes he hasnt hurt someone but doesnt mean that you just got to wait for something to correct it.

Kane is a special player for us and I want Spurs to win, but just because I have a different view of the situation doesnt mean im desperate to paint him as a dirty player. In fact ive never used the term once.
Most people aren't denying the Cresswell one is something he shouldn't do though. That was actually a bad challenge. People are piling on though with other challenges (Lallana, Gabriel) where the jumper is the one being more reckless, much more so in the case of Lallana.
 

BringBack_leGin

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it is discomforting to see him look around, make the play and then make no attempt at the ball.
Credswell aside, where it was a bad challenge, in just can’t agree with this part. He moves towards where the ball is going, it’s incidental that this is also where the opposition player is jumping towards, and of course he logs around because the nature of who is around and how they’re challenging him will affect how he tries to get the ball. If there’s nobody jumping towards it, he may even jump himself to head it on.

Way I see it, if Harry can’t do what he’s done in these instances, he has two choices remaining. Either he lets the guy win the header without challenge, or he jumps for a ball against someone who has already charged in and risks a far greater collision with potentially worse consequences.
 

Gb160

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Anything that provokes this kind of reaction, while earning us a free kick needs to just be applauded :ROFLMAO:

 

jonnyrotten

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He is running towards the ball then sometimes he just stops there and other times he is kind of doing that butt thing where he kind of crouches into the player... i dont think it is standing his ground as such. It is my view as I say and happy to disagree with what seems to be the majority.

I just fear that one day someone is going to land bloody awkwardly and serious damage could be done. The majority may think - oh well accidents happen, but I guess I see it differently.
I agree, I think it's dangerous play on Kane's part and if it wasn't a spurs player doing it then I doubt the majority on here would be disagreeing with you.
 

isaac94

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Why has this become such a big thing, like Kane is the only player to ever do this, the likes of kevin davies and Ashley barnes have made a career out of this kind of stuff
 

jonnyrotten

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There's few things in life more satisfying than a yeboah... seeing Kane absolutely smash one in off the bar against the gooners was fucking sublime.
 

soflapaul

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Credswell aside, where it was a bad challenge, in just can’t agree with this part. He moves towards where the ball is going, it’s incidental that this is also where the opposition player is jumping towards, and of course he logs around because the nature of who is around and how they’re challenging him will affect how he tries to get the ball. If there’s nobody jumping towards it, he may even jump himself to head it on.

Way I see it, if Harry can’t do what he’s done in these instances, he has two choices remaining. Either he lets the guy win the header without challenge, or he jumps for a ball against someone who has already charged in and risks a far greater collision with potentially worse consequences.

Our positions aren't that different. The first one clearly is a foul by Harry, the second one against him. No argument there. My point is that it is hard to be comfortable with this as no matter what he does, everyone, defender and Harry alike, are in a no win position when they are contesting for common space and only one player elevates. In other cases, (neither of these) he does have the option of jumping a bit earlier (he who jumps first can get a bit of a boost from the opposing player) but that has a lower probability of winning the ball compared to allowing the player to come over the top and winning the free kick. Given how fast his mind works, you know he makes a split second calculation on the probability of winning the ball and choose the best tactic.

So, it is the percentage play. Hence, it is easy to appreciate it from a tactical perspective but not from an aesthetic one due to the injury potential if he gets it wrong. So i can agree with the tactic up to a point but am still uncomfortable with it.
 

dagraham

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Anything that provokes this kind of reaction, while earning us a free kick needs to just be applauded :ROFLMAO:



To be honest, out of all of them clowns I don’t mind him too much. Can understand why he’s angry ( Kane is just a diversion). I’ve certainly been as angry as that at various times watching Spurs over the years and if he was just sitting there shrugging his shoulders all game I’d find it more strange.

Difference is, it doesn’t last long and after he calms down he talks a bit of sense, unlike most of the others, who just stamp their feet and talk gibberish.

Robbie just sits there throwing little bombs out at various moments to stoke it up, knowing his bank balance will be improving with every minute :D.
 

Gb160

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To be honest, out of all of them clowns I don’t mind him too much. Can understand why he’s angry ( Kane is just a diversion). I’ve certainly been as angry as that at various times watching Spurs over the years and if he was just sitting there shrugging his shoulders all game I’d find it more strange.

Difference is, it doesn’t last long and after he calms down he talks a bit of sense, unlike most of the others, who just stamp their feet and talk gibberish.

Robbie just sits there throwing little bombs out at various moments to stoke it up, knowing his bank balance will be improving with every minute :D.
That release of anger from him had obviously been building and building all game, that very moment was when he realised we'd completely fucked them over again.

I actually don't mind him, he's normally quite reserved... but it's a beautiful moment.
 

glacierSpurs

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He's not standing his ground. In all three clips he's moving and he has his eye on the player not the ball and he takes the player's legs out from under him. It's dangerous and he needs to cut it out.


TBH, this compilation is fucking embarrassing. Any football fans trying to criminalise Kane over a sample size of 3 clips where 2 of them are totally non-malicious and 1 being 50/50 should be ashamed, pundits should be shot.
 

Gb160

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Imagine how funny it would be for Kane to do his signature move and put a Liverpool player in a cast.
I'd probably die laughing.
 

Spartanspurs

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Imagine how funny it would be for Kane to do his signature move and put a Liverpool player in a cast.
I'd probably die laughing.
I couldn't condone him injuring someone and I don't think there's any risk he does unless he repeats the Cresswell one a lot.

However, I am fully expecting Andy Robertson to put in a horror challenge that puts Kane out for a few months and everyone to say how he deserves it. Probably have Liverpool players wearing Andy Robertson tops before the next game and their fans going on about how they're always the victims as a result.
 

SpursSince1980

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Most of you really need to take your Spurs-tinted glasses off and acknowledge that what Harry is doing (clearly intentionally) is really dangerous. There's a reason why this is same move is not allowed in other sports. It's so easy to snap your arm or worse this way. One of these days someone is going to land on their neck and you'll still be asking for a foul on Harry.
If you have played as a defender, then you know this can be a dangerous move by a striker. Had it done to me a few times. Mostly without harm. But one time I did snap and dislocate my elbow. The crack was so loud it made one of their midfielders puke!!! And on another occasion I landed quite badly on my neck. And that is now a chronic injury. However, it was not just that one incident, as it is also a case of disc osteophyte complex too. (degenerative arthritis in my upper spine, neck area). Regardless of my maladies, it can be dangerous. I remember our Dawson being on the wrong end of one of those, and was out for a spell. I can’t remember the name of the striker. He player for Soton for years and was a rough-em-up type of forward. Then again my memory might be playing tricks on me.

i would like to think Harry isn’t doing this intentionally, in the sense that he is wanting to hurt someone. But it is a move that many, many strikers do, and I’ve never been a fan. In some cases, I do believe they do it with the intention of causing harm. But with Kane, i doubt that is his master plan. He mostly does it, as a way to win fouls. But singling him out, is dumb and histrionic, because this is standard fare for most strikers.
 

mil1lion

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I don't particularly see why a player should have some sort of "right of way" just because he's leaping like a salmon.

Why is no one questioning why players are leaping into players and putting themselves at risk? It's conceptually similar to trying a diving header at knee height when competing for the ball.


At the end of the day, if you're not in possession of the ball, you have no real "claim" or right to the ball. You can't expect to be given possession just because you might get hurt in your attempts.
The best way to do it just agree that whoever says "my ball" first be allowed to get the ball
 
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