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fishhhandaricecake

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Really hope we can get someone better than Orban, Like Vlahovic Tameri. Orban is so underwhelming to replace the best striker PL has seen in years.
Orban wouldn't be directly replacing Kane he'd be adding to our squad overall mate.

Richy & Son would play up top with Orban and Veliz getting some minutes.

Ideally we'd sign Orban, a top class AM and a top class CB.

We will then have 22 very strong players which we've arguably never had before.
 

Scot-Spur

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Orban wouldn't be directly replacing Kane he'd be adding to our squad overall mate.

Richy & Son would play up top with Orban and Veliz getting some minutes.

Ideally we'd sign Orban, a top class AM and a top class CB.

We will then have 22 very strong players which we've arguably never had before.
Sorry but we need a striker. Nobody is telling me Richy or Orban are the answer. Richy is made of glass and hardly clinical and Orban is such an unknown.
 

barry

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Are we going down the data route, or are we going to bitch because the club doesn't sign the flavour of the month striker you want?
 

Ghost Hardware

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I’m all for getting Orban, but i don’t want him to be part of “operation Kane”. Imo he should only be seen as an opportunistic buy for the future, much like Sarr or Udogie. His name shouldn’t be remotely close to the loss of Kane. Very happy to have him (as long as it doesn’t financially effect our other business) but one that should not be the primary focus imo.
 

Huddlebone

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Orban wouldn't be directly replacing Kane he'd be adding to our squad overall mate.

Richy & Son would play up top with Orban and Veliz getting some minutes.

Ideally we'd sign Orban, a top class AM and a top class CB.

We will then have 22 very strong players which we've arguably never had before.
I understand, But we are losing 30-40 goals/assists/year with Kane leaving. Who is going to replace that? We dont even know if Son will be over 10 goals without Kane's world-class service. There is not chance we will go to Europe with Son/Richy as our main strikers. and Who is Replacing Son on the left Wing Solomon who hasn't ever had 10+ goals/assists per season ever. We need either a Leao or a top striker to replace the loss or we need to expect that we are a midtable team this year.
 

Scot-Spur

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Are we going down the data route, or are we going to bitch because the club doesn't sign the flavour of the month striker you want?
Yea let’s go down the data route and put all our hopes on Orban who we have a grand total of 18 months of data on.
Spanning the Norwegian second division and a short stint in Belgium with a grand total of 40 games or so.
 

Flobadob

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With the additions we’ve made this summer if we keep Kane I think we’ll be a serious team. Look at our potential starting 11 once Bentancur is fit, that team is capable of achieving something, it’s packed with very good players in every position IMO. Vicario is the only relatively unknown player to me, the rest I fully expect to be excellent, especially Udogie and Van de Ven who I think have massive ceilings and fit Ange’s system absolutely perfectly.

The point I’m making is why when you’ve got £100m to spend and a team like that that’s ready to go and kick some ass would you not go out and buy a ready made striker or at least something close to that? What are we doing here? Waiting until Romero, Bentancur and our other top players get bored of not achieving anything while we wait for punts to come good? I see no reason to set ourselves back like that, if we sign a proper striker we can still get ourselves back where we belong towards the top of the table. If we’re relying on Richy and this kid I’d have my money on us failing to do so, quite heavily, unfortunately.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Sorry but we need a striker. Nobody is telling me Richy or Orban are the answer. Richy is made of glass and hardly clinical and Orban is such an unknown.
Would you rather we spend big on say Vhalovic then and if so forgo signing another CB,CM & RW or if we signed 4 players of good quality but with potential would that not be better and Richy, Sonny, Orban & Veliz can all play up top with goal contributions also coming from the overall system as well as: Maddison, Kulusevski, Son, Lo Celso, Solomon, a new AM such as Eze etc etc.

Its a 4 year project under Ange it might take some time but I think spreading the money is better than spending it all on say Vhalovic etc and then if they flop we've wasted all the money.

Just my opinion though.
 

JayB

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Sorry but we need a striker. Nobody is telling me Richy or Orban are the answer. Richy is made of glass and hardly clinical and Orban is such an unknown.
Let's not overlook Son, who has a brilliant record as a No. 9 at the club. Between Son and Richarlison I'm fine with buying a young talent at the striker position and spending the bulk of the money on a truly top-class CB.
 

Scot-Spur

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Would you rather we spend big on say Vhalovic then and if so forgo signing another CB,CM & RW or if we signed 4 players of good quality but with potential would that not be better and Richy, Sonny, Orban & Veliz can all play up top with goal contributions also coming from the overall system as well as: Maddison, Kulusevski, Son, Lo Celso, Solomon, a new AM such as Eze etc etc.

Its a 4 year project under Ange it might take some time but I think spreading the money is better than spending it all on say Vhalovic etc and then if they flop we've wasted all the money.

Just my opinion though.
Imo we should be buying a top striker, who ever that maybe Vlahovic is obviously available but I just hope we have identified correctly

There is a reason a goalscorer costs so much money. There is a reason clubs struggle to get them because they are so rare. Especially the level Kane is at.

I get we many not replace him completely but atleast trying to would be a start. We are flush with money. It shouldn’t be a compromise. With PEH still to go plus the others we should easily be able to get the players we need.
 

Scot-Spur

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Let's not overlook Son, who has a brilliant record as a No. 9 at the club. Between Son and Richarlison I'm fine with buying a young talent at the striker position and spending the bulk of the money on a truly top-class CB.
I actually think Son would perform better at Striker tbf. I just worry when/if he has to link the play.
 

Misfit

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Kane to this guy, and some would be happy? It's a point of view for sure...
 

Ghost Hardware

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I actually think Son would perform better at Striker tbf. I just worry when/if he has to link the play.
My big concern with Son as a striker in this system is that he doesn’t have the physicality nor the necessary spacial awareness within the box. He’s neither a fox in the box or a target man. He’s a long step away from Ronaldo when he converted. Look at Richy, he might not have the technique on the ball but he’s strong and is good at find a space when the ball goes out to the wing for a cross or cut back. For me in this system Son, as good a finisher as he is, just doesn’t have the skill set to be a CF. Imo of course.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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Kane to this guy, and some would be happy? It's a point of view for sure...
I don't think "happy" is the right term.

I think some people are ok with moving on, and are happy to see how this new-look Spurs team develops.

I am excited to see our team compete this year. It will be different, but I hope we grow to love these players as much as we loved the players from this last era.
 

Flobadob

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Let's not overlook Son, who has a brilliant record as a No. 9 at the club. Between Son and Richarlison I'm fine with buying a young talent at the striker position and spending the bulk of the money on a truly top-class CB.
I agree with this and I think Son will probably do better as a striker in this system than as a winger, but again if we’re using Son as a striker why would you not then use the 100m to go and buy a properly dangerous starting LW when we already have a 3rd young striker in Veliz? Why do we need to be making these punts when we’re one position in our starting 11 away from having a really formidable team? (If/when Kane goes). Makes no sense to me. We’ll just end up being perennial nearly men again and losing our best players when we could actually just sign a top player as a Kane replacement and actually make the most of the great team we potentially have built this summer
 

Misfit

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I don't think "happy" is the right term.

I think some people are ok with moving on, and are happy to see how this new-look Spurs team develops.

I am excited to see our team compete this year. It will be different, but I hope we grow to love these players as much as we loved the players from this last era.
I am too but I'd just like us to stop acting like it's 2012/2013. I have zero faith our scouting system is up to the challenge. Buying somewhat finished quality for top price is sometimes needed. Spaffing the H money on 2 or 3 "good youngsters" and crossing our fingers is something we've tried before and failed miserably at.
 

Timberwolf

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If we sign him this is one of those deals that will go down in spurs folklore whichever way it turns out as he'll be remembered as the striker we bought to replace Kane.

It'll either be full Frasier Campbell or an inspired genius move.
 

Misfit

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Let's not overlook Son, who has a brilliant record as a No. 9 at the club. Between Son and Richarlison I'm fine with buying a young talent at the striker position and spending the bulk of the money on a truly top-class CB.
This would be best solution. Convincing a top/just about to be striker to come here will be next to impossible. Sorting out the defence at least with proven quality will give us a chance over the course of the season.

I just don't want us to spread the jam too think again. One quality singing has to be made with this money. Not just a handful of "promising options".
 

SpartanSpur

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This would be best solution. Convincing a top/just about to be striker to come here will be next to impossible. Sorting out the defence at least with proven quality will give us a chance over the course of the season.

I just don't want us to spread the jam too think again. One quality singing has to be made with this money. Not just a handful of "promising options".
As others have said, who is out there in the £80-100m range ready to join us?

Can't think of any.

Getting 2-3 £50m players capable of being starters would work for me.

Tapsoba or Silva
Orban, Vlahovic
Eze or take a punt on someone like Sancho or Chiesa in the hope they can recover their form.
 
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