Gareth Bale

[SpartanSpur]

It's more than a bit of an adventure, it's in China. Also, why use "normal jobs and careers" and try to compare it to Bale's case or any elite sport?

Bale has probably around two or three years left at the top of his sport and then it is gone forever. This isn't a 40 year normal career he has left. He could feasibly still move to China or the US at the age of 33 and still rake in an absolute fortune. Look at Ibrahimovich, Ronaldo and Messi as examples of world class players doing it the right way.

But essentially, Bale is choosing to hang up his boots at the age of 30, make no mistake, moving to China is basically retiring, you're finished. The only reason you could possibly do that is for cash, but he's already financially secure for generations.

I just can't stand behind that move at all, I appreciate people out there that literally put money above all else, but it's easy to take that stance when you are just normal people in normal jobs, when you are already worth 100 million, surely money becomes slightly less important...no one is asking Bale to stay in Europe and play for free....

Just as weak an argument as saying someone worth £100m should be ok with giving up on £20-30m of guaranteed income just because it's more than most people can ever imagine having. I'd never be happy giving up such a significant % of my total wealth.

Maybe Bale is looking at it like a 'normal job', after all it's the only job he's had.

Maybe he disillusioned by how poorly he's been treated? Maybe his body is broken and he needs to move to an easier league? Maybe his passion really is golf now (and China has some quality courses).

Was Dembele vilified for his move to China? He could have easily gone to Italy for a fraction of the wages.

I hope I'm wrong and the fire is still there for him to compete. I don't think China was even a consideration at start of the summer, now it probably looks like a tidy little escape plan.

 

[punkisback]

Seems like both Barnett and Real are trying to make eachother into the villain - regardless of if Bale actually wanted to go to China, by saying that the family was ready to go and then Real suddenly pulled the plug, makes RM look harsh.

I'm finding it hard to tell what is real information and what has been briefed to different media outlets by either Real or Barnett. Sort of seems like a proxy war where Real Madrid use the Spanish media to vilify Bale while Barnett uses the English papers to portray Real negatively.

Still hoping Daniel Levy is lurking in the shadows.

Bale was never going to go to China, this was probably a test to see to what financial lengths Real where prepared to go to to let him go. Basically a game of transfer "Chicken"!

 

[Lighty64]

Bale rejected China initially. Madrid came out saying China couldn't afford the transfer fee anyway. Then he decides to agree to the move only for Madrid to call it off over wanting a transfer fee. Hmmm. Wonder if Bale knew that would happen and played the hand that was dealt to him continuing to back Madrid into the corner

in other words he was willing to go earn 1m a week knowing RM would get nothing, yet when a team offered the dosh he rejected it. sounds like he wants Madrid to get nothing for him in return as he believes their treatment means they deserve nothing

 

[Lighty64]

So Barnett confirms Bale and his family were ready to go to China.

Totally bizarre decision. What is wrong with the guy? Take a drop in salary and go to a club in Europe and have another few great years playing at the top level.

When Bale signed that Madrid contract he must have known that it was incredibly unlikely that he'd see out the full term at Madrid, being about 33 when it expires. He also must have known he was at the pinnacle of his earnings. Obviously since then China has come along but I can't believe any elite player would seriously consider going there at their peak. The thing is, he's stuck now as this shows any prospective european club, that he is now on the beach and only in it for the money. Hardly inspiring to managers and chairmen is it....

as I said in my above post, I don't think Bale will go anywhere if it means RM receive a penny. I'm starting to feel the reason his agent said he won't go on loan because it meant RM would receive a loan fee. as far as Bale or his agent are concerned he will only leave on a free providing a club either pays him more, or the same, or Madrid either pay him off. they are not going to let Madrid off the hook

 

[MTB]

It’s very difficult to actually work out what Bale is really worth.
If we look at Ronaldo which I know is a different kind of proposition. He left Real for Juventus for 112 million in transfer fees alone at 34 years of age. His wages are around £25 million pounds each year over 4 years. So for argument sake, the chap costs £200 million in total.
To buy Bale on a free and cover just wages is under 100 million euros.
Arguably, £90 million for a total outlay is actually a decent price when you look at the situation differently.
I suspect that Real want to get as much dollar as possible now. It makes for an interesting situation. And I’m not sure anyone will budge from their stance now.

I still want him to come back and I would be happy us dropping £100 mill to do it. To move to that tier 1 type of club, this is the kind of deal we need to make.


However, If he wants even more money than what he’s currently on to come to us? Then he can sod off.

 

[Insomnia]

"Too upset"? Fucking hell.. his dream move to China has gone tits.

Oi show some sympathy, that Chinese Club was his boyhood Club ?

 

[mickdale]

Lol at some of these comments
Bale should turn down 1m a week so he can have the next Charlie Adams try and snap his leg when he sends them to the chip shop?
Goes to the bridge and gets a load of pwopar cocked up 50 somethings make cheeky chimp noises at him?

 

[have_it]

cocked up 50 somethings make cheeky chimp noises at him?

That's a new one but I wouldn't put anything past a Chelsea fan ?

 

[luptic]

why has this thread still got legs?

 

[Stamford]

Really hope the club haven't wasted any time on this.

 

[sausage]

It’s very difficult to actually work out what Bale is really worth.
If we look at Ronaldo which I know is a different kind of proposition. He left Real for Juventus for 112 million in transfer fees alone at 34 years of age. His wages are around £25 million pounds each year over 4 years. So for argument sake, the chap costs £200 million in total.
To buy Bale on a free and cover just wages is under 100 million euros.
Arguably, £90 million for a total outlay is actually a decent price when you look at the situation differently.
I suspect that Real want to get as much dollar as possible now. It makes for an interesting situation. And I’m not sure anyone will budge from their stance now.

I still want him to come back and I would be happy us dropping £100 mill to do it. To move to that tier 1 type of club, this is the kind of deal we need to make.


However, If he wants even more money than what he’s currently on to come to us? Then he can sod off.

Difference with CR is his application.
He's rarely injured, as he makes sacrifices in his spare time to devote towards extending his career. He puts 100% into his football, and very rarely looks uninterested.

Plus, no one is making any money from ads with Bale in his underpants

 

[jay2040]

Difference with CR is his application.
He's rarely injured, as he makes sacrifices in his spare time to devote towards extending his career. He puts 100% into his football, and very rarely looks uninterested.

Plus, no one is making any money from ads with Bale in his underpants

Sounds like some one has a crush!

 

[oobaties]

Difference with CR is his application.
He's rarely injured, as he makes sacrifices in his spare time to devote towards extending his career. He puts 100% into his football, and very rarely looks uninterested.

Plus, no one is making any money from ads with Bale in his underpants

Another big difference is that Ronaldo is a self obsessed odious c*** of a human. Literally zero likability. ?

 

[sausage]

Another big difference is that Ronaldo is a self obsessed odious c*** of a human. Literally zero likability. ?

Worth a fortune commercially, whichever way you want to put it tbh.

Same with any egotistical celeb (Kanye, for example)

 

[freeeki]

Another big difference is that Ronaldo is a self obsessed odious c*** of a human. Literally zero likability. ?

I can't think of a footballer in my lifetime who's taken their craft as seriously as Cristiano Ronaldo tbh.

For me he's the greatest of all time. Slagging off his personality when you know nothing about it, such is his relative media shyness, just looks desperate.

Bale isn't on the same level, nobody is. Except Messi.

 

[yankspurs]

I can't think of a footballer in my lifetime who's taken their craft as seriously as Cristiano Ronaldo tbh.

For me he's the greatest of all time. Slagging off his personality when you know nothing about it, such is his relative media shyness, just looks desperate.

Bale isn't on the same level, nobody is. Except Messi.

Messi > Cristiano Ronaldo.

 

[freeeki]

Messi > Cristiano Ronaldo.

Messi & Ronaldo >>>> everyone else.

I think that's the more pressing point here.

 

[yankspurs]

Messi & Ronaldo >>>> everyone else.

I think that's the more pressing point here.

That’s also true but my point still stands.

 

[wrd]

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Won't lie, I see this is the worst possible situation for us. If we don't deliver this summer then there's absolutely 0 doubt in my mind that Poch is gone next summer.

 

[oobaties]

I can't think of a footballer in my lifetime who's taken their craft as seriously as Cristiano Ronaldo tbh.

For me he's the greatest of all time. Slagging off his personality when you know nothing about it, such is his relative media shyness, just looks desperate.

Bale isn't on the same level, nobody is. Except Messi.

I'm not questioning his capability. I agree he's a fantastic footballer. Arguably one of the best. But you can just tell he's got zero charisma or charm. You can also tell it irks him that people generally like Messi more than him. If he was a true professional, he wouldn't give a toss what people thought, but he does. He's an egomaniac and wants (almost demands) people to like him. And that makes him a prick in my book.

Also, I think Bale is on a similar level. Ronaldo literally couldn't cope with the fact that Bale's transfer fee was higher than his. Couldn't cope with bale scoring the CL overhead goal against Liverpool. Lashed out at him in training when bale nutmegged him. Gave RM an ultimatum (him or Bale). I could list a heap more examples of Ronaldo being a twat. My point is, the guy simply doesn't have the personality to be universally liked and that will ultimately have an impact, not on his ability, but overall how he's viewed by peers and fans.

That lack of charisma will be the difference when judged against others in years to come.

Just onions.