FORMER Manager Watch: Nuno Espírito Santo

[Monkey boy]

It was a lot more than just putting his name forward. It was 100% happening untill the huge public response, and the media getting behind it en mass.

Unfortunately we as fans used up our veto cards with the backlash against Fonseca and Guttuso and had none left to play when NoNo was put forward.

Really is quite astounding that after all that in the summer we've ended up with this guy. Gerrard, ETH, Potter, Lopetegiu, Poch, Conte, Valverde were all more than viable options yet some how we end up with the guy that got sacked at Wolves and turned down by Crystal Palace.

 

[Trix]

Unfortunately we as fans used up our veto cards with the backlash against Fonseca and Guttuso and had none left to play when NoNo was put forward.

Really is quite astounding that after all that in the summer we've ended up with this guy. Gerrard, ETH, Potter, Lopetegiu, Poch, Conte, Valverde were all more than viable options yet some how we end up with the guy that got sacked at Wolves and turned down by Crystal Palace.

Fonsecca was nothing to do with the fans. Don't kid yourself that it was. There were real grounds for the club to listen to regarding gattuso which they did. A few whining they didn't think Fonsecca was good enough didn't even register I can assure you of that(and rightly so). It was almost done and the only thing that stopped it was the appointment of Fab who wanted Gattuso instead.

 

[Snarfalicious]

How do we actually recover from this? Feel like Joe Exotic when the worker got their arm ripped off. Just can’t see a positive outcome in the short, medium-term. I’m usually super optimistic, too.

 

[Monkey boy]

How do we actually recover from this? Feel like Joe Exotic when the worker got their arm ripped off. Just can’t see a positive outcome in the short, medium-term. I’m usually super optimistic, too.

The only way at this point is to part ways with the BtEC Mourinho. Just listen to him waffle on in his press conference today, speaking absolute nonsense and refusing to any meaningful answers to questions. Ask yourself, would you be inspired by this bloke? Its crazy how many people were saying he was giving off Poch vibes when he was first appointed. The only similarities with the great man is his dislike and distrust of the british media.

 

[Black]

If his training sessions are anything like his press conferences, I can see why the players may be uninspired! ??

To be honest his press conference was not that bad. See how things go on tomorrow.

 

[wrd]

How do we actually recover from this? Feel like Joe Exotic when the worker got their arm ripped off. Just can’t see a positive outcome in the short, medium-term. I’m usually super optimistic, too.

I think we have to acknowledge that our stature has fallen, that managers who would have been interested in building on what Poch did may now feel it’s no longer an appealing job.

We need to have a clear strategy that every facet off the club is working within. Something like I don’t know the exact strategy the chairmen said we were going to do to the fans. If anything is at odds with this strategy it should be removed and we will have to accept that we might not be able to hire a high calibre of manager but hiring a manager with the right philosophy would be a start, hiring a DoF who works within that philosophy would be fantastic also who can control the ethos of the club.

Id say that the club won’t do this because it would be an admittance of making mistakes and we wouldn’t want people’s egos being bruised now would we. I think unless we get extremely lucky with a managerial appointment we are looking at 5-10 years of navigating our way through tbh. There needs to be some aggressive actions taken and I don’t think the club will do it.

 

[Trix]

To be honest his press conference was not that bad. See how things go on tomorrow.

You are right it wasn't that bad, and he didn't avoid the questions. Unfortunately we are at the point, where the only way many fans won't criticise his every move is to start winning and winning with some sort of attacking flair.

 

[sundanceyid10]

Surely Levy’s position has to be questioned if yet another manager is to be dumped, he is the constant common denominator in the shitshow of errors that keep unfolding.

 

[haslemereyid]

By whom? The sad reality is that only Levy can question Levy.. And anyway he has Fab to take the blame for Nuno..

 

[sundanceyid10]

By whom? The sad reality is that only Levy can question Levy.. And anyway he has Fab to take the blame for Nuno..

Of course that’s part of the problem, the cycle goes on

 

[mattspur1]

I still see a Poch return in the next 18 months.

 

[Russ1201]

Nuno seems more approachable and open this interview. Definately seems less guarded. Like this interview hopefully it's not just words.
Wish we had more players like Lloris who talk openly and honestly. I think Nuno is only a small part of the reason the team is so bad, the players are a larger reasons why.

 

[Johnny J]

I really don't mean to be offensive here but I seriously think he is a little bit on the spectrum, he's clearly a very very clever man but he's very socially awkward and I think this feeds into our constant changing of strategy as its similar to someone who is autistic who jumps from one thing to the next.

I'm autistic. No offence taken but just for info, although it is indeed a spectrum disorder and presents in different ways in different people, jumping from one thing to the next isn't really how most autistic people behave.

In fact, repetitive and restricted patterns of behaviour is one of the two key criteria for an autism diagnosis. The other is persistent difficulties with reciprocal social communication, which can indeed present as social awkwardness.

You obviously didn't mean what you said in a negative manner, but it could be read that way, as whether or not he's "on the spectrum" (which is impossible to tell unless one is a specialist and does a proper assessment), it doesn't automatically mean he can't do his job well.

I'm very much on the spectrum - highly autistic - but you wouldn't be able to tell unless you knew me very well. Similarly, many people don't have autism spectrum disorder may superficially present in ways that might be mistaken for autism.

In fact, autism helps me do my job extremely well; it just makes life incredibly hard in other aspects.

I'm writing this post because I think it's important to try to avoid stereotypes when it comes to autism and other conditions. Not to single you out - you're a good poster and it's just a personal topic for me and I'm sure others on here.

Edit: just to be completely clear for everyone, my post is intended to help inform about autism for anyone who might be interested. As I said in my post, @fishhhandaricecake clearly meant no offence and none was taken. I just like to do my part to remove some of the social stigma around conditions like this.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

If his training sessions are anything like his press conferences, I can see why the players may be uninspired! ??

To be fair this was one of his better ones but yea it is a little bit meh isn't it. He does also say the same phrases to most questions like 'It is up to us' and 'we need to work hard day by day' but sorry, he's never coached a side to play the way we want to and top level coaches all have their styles and ways of playing and its pretty difficult/near on impossible for them to change their entire philosophy.

Nuno isn't suddenly going to change us into play lots of short passes high posession tiki taka free flowing attacking football it just won't happen, we will get more of the same.

Also when asked about the DNA and style he said 'everyone wants to play good football and everyone wants to score but sometimes you can't', its a very non answer tbh and also it isn't true and some managers way of playing doesn't equate to what fans view as 'good football'.

 

[WePlayWednesday]

I'm autistic. No offence taken but just for info, although it is indeed a spectrum disorder and presents in different ways in different people, jumping from one thing to the next isn't really how most autistic people behave.

In fact, repetitive and restricted patterns of behaviour is one of the two key criteria for an autism diagnosis. The other is persistent difficulties with reciprocal social communication, which can indeed present as social awkwardness.

You obviously didn't mean what you said in a negative manner, but it could be read that way, as whether or not he's "on the spectrum" (which is impossible to tell unless one is a specialist and does a proper assessment), it doesn't automatically mean he can't do his job well.

In fact, autism helps me do my job extremely well; it just makes life incredibly hard in other aspects.

I'm writing this post because I think it's important to try to avoid stereotypes when it comes to autism and other conditions. Not to single you out - you're a good poster and it's just a personal topic for me and I'm sure others on here.

I agree. I’m “on the spectrum” and yeah, I’m a bit eccentric but I somehow manage to lead multi million € Pharmaceutical software development projects. I actually believe my different way of thinking is an advantage in some situations…

Just don’t question my love of symmetry, tidiness and for god sake don’t ask to do any form of mathematical equations ?

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I'm autistic. No offence taken but just for info, although it is indeed a spectrum disorder and presents in different ways in different people, jumping from one thing to the next isn't really how most autistic people behave.

In fact, repetitive and restricted patterns of behaviour is one of the two key criteria for an autism diagnosis. The other is persistent difficulties with reciprocal social communication, which can indeed present as social awkwardness.

You obviously didn't mean what you said in a negative manner, but it could be read that way, as whether or not he's "on the spectrum" (which is impossible to tell unless one is a specialist and does a proper assessment), it doesn't automatically mean he can't do his job well.

In fact, autism helps me do my job extremely well; it just makes life incredibly hard in other aspects.

I'm writing this post because I think it's important to try to avoid stereotypes when it comes to autism and other conditions. Not to single you out - you're a good poster and it's just a personal topic for me and I'm sure others on here.

Fair enough mate and thanks for sharing, I have relatives who are autistic and one of them has that behaviour but appreciate that autism doesn't present the same in everyone. And oh yea I never meant he couldn't do his job properly just that the type of character and personality Levy is (taking aside any disorders) may be one of the reasons why he makes decisions in the way he does.

I'll PM you privately mate as don't want to take this too off topic and obviously no offence was meant with what I wrote at al.

Peace and love.

 

[PLTuck]

I'm not sure what people want or expect him to say in response to the questions asked.

 

[Wsussexspur]

To be honest his press conference was not that bad. See how things go on tomorrow.

Does tomorrow’s match really matter in the grand scheme of things! We should win convincingly. Playing a team 5th in Slovenian League.

A win against a team we should comfortable be beating doesn’t change anything! Especially if we don’t win on Sunday or against Newcastle.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

It was a lot more than just putting his name forward. It was 100% happening untill the huge public response, and the media getting behind it en mass.

Crazy, if you take aside the things Gattuso has supposedly said or done in his past or that we know he's done with squaring up to Joe Jordan, as purely a managerial appointment he'd have actually been stylistically slightly more of a fit than Nuno although Fonseca would've been even more so what we were looking for in terms of 'Spurs DNA' attacking free flowing football.

Gennaro Gattuso’s playing style as ex-Napoli man nears Tottenham job

The 43-year-old Italian is reportedly close to the Spurs job after talks with Paulo Fonseca broke down.

www.express.co.uk

 

[Aphex]

I always find it funny that SC is the most harmonious when things are going to shit and it's near impossible to disagree, I've read a fair bit today and I'm seeing very little arguments or bickering. I reckon it's because when there's little way to spin things positively that people are actually allowed to express their opinions even if perceived negative without being talked down to. It's actually healthier this way in my opinion.

Yeah I’ve never seen SC in such unanimous agreement. Says it all.