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Financial Fair Play: Can it Not Come Sooner?

Chimbo!

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The way Chelsea and Manchester City are run at the moment is a detriment to the game. To be honest the sooner the financial fair play system comes into play the better so that the shackles can be placed on them.

I did not use to see the problem. I thought it was fair enough if a rich businessman bought a club and pumped money into it. However, I can now see what Michel Platini and co. were driving at when they expressed their concerns and brought in plans for the financial fair play system.

The reality is that what Manchester City and Chelsea have done over the last few seasons has effected no club more then ours. While we have spent years building a team capable of making the top 4 with setbacks aplenty, Manchester City pumped millions within a season to catch up with us. It threatened to prevent us achieve our aim last season. It now looks like it will prevent us achieve our aim this season.

Our team is packed with nurtured talent such as Bale, Lennon and Huddlestone. Players who had been developed to the standard they are now at. We achieved this within our means by investing the money the club had generated itself.

Manchester City on the other hand have blown us out of the water with their spending. They spend £20 million here and £30 million there with a £100k a week pay check to boot. What are we supposed to do?

When Chelsea were struggling in January they spent £80 million in a day for two players to get them out of trouble. What are we supposed to do?

These are clubs spending far beyond their means, behaving like the best two teams in the world when they are far from it. They have inflated a market and used money to unnaturally propel themselves above everyone else. That is completely unfair.

Why should one team reap the benefits from a billionaire invester and another not? That may work in business but football is something else. It is about healthy competition and being the best football team. It is not about who has the most money. But Manchester City and Chelsea have reduced it to that.

So before you blame Redknapp or the team for their current position. Think: City, Chelsea and Spurs have all had a dip this season. Two of those teams pumped huge amounts of money beyond their means to stay afloat. We could not because we do not have that kind of money. From the very start of this season we were fighting a losing battle.

However, one thing is for certain. We will continue to build slowly and progress. We will have those setbacks but we will steadily get closer and closer to where we want to be. And when it does happen it will feel far better then how it will for City and Chelsea fans.
 

Azrael

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These are clubs spending far beyond their means.
Um, I don't think they are......



Anyhow, is it the fault of Chelsea and City that we are dropping points regularly to relegation sides? Did City's big spending stop us getting 4th last year?

I don't buy this notion that having mega buck is the be all and end all of success. Fact is this season they have managed an extra few points which has put them just ahead of us. That's just the way it is. We don't need a rule to help us out. We need to learn compete properly against both the big and small teams while we are on the pitch.
 

steventhfc

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But they're picking on us!

Yeah......it's not their fault we're fucking this up for ourselves.
 

nightgoat

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I wonder what City's co-efficient is... It can't be as high as ours was last season, and they didn't do much in the Waffa so they could end up not being seeded and getting a bastard qualification tie...
 

cwy21

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Chimbo!

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I feel like the above two posters are missing the point somewhat.

You are right. Nobody has a god given right to be in the Champions League but if you spend as much money as they do then you may as well have a God given right.
 

Viva la Tottenham

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If my understanding of financial 'fair play' is right then it's not going to be very fair at all. Is it basically you can only spend what you make?

If so manure are going to be operating with a much higher budget than everyone else making life in the transfer market much easier for them. Like wise in Spain aint much going to change their as Real and Barca are on another planet when it comes to generating income than everyone else in the league.

A salary cap would be a far more even way of implementing a true financial fair play system but something tells me the twats at FIFA and UEFA already know this
 

chrissivad

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its not just on based on income, you have to then look at what that club is spending on transfers and wages ect.

Im sure the likes of Barca and Real both announced losses so are not with in theses rules.
 

Viva la Tottenham

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its not just on based on income, you have to then look at what that club is spending on transfers and wages ect.

Im sure the likes of Barca and Real both announced losses so are not with in theses rules.



yes but overall will the super rich clubs like manu, barca and real not have far bigger total budgets than the rest putting them in a league of their own financially?

it just seems like it will work in their favour, knocking off some of their main competitors but not affecting them much at all because they've been milking the CL cow far longer hence been buying/tapping up the cream of the crop for ages hence raising their profile and global brand/income

seems like this stuff was soley made to stop chelski and citeh competing with the most popular clubs in the world were as an actual salary cap would level the playing field for all and totally change the world of football forever
 

Matt C

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May 19, 2009
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The way Chelsea and Manchester City are run at the moment is a detriment to the game. To be honest the sooner the financial fair play system comes into play the better so that the shackles can be placed on them.

I did not use to see the problem. I thought it was fair enough if a rich businessman bought a club and pumped money into it. However, I can now see what Michel Platini and co. were driving at when they expressed their concerns and brought in plans for the financial fair play system.

The reality is that what Manchester City and Chelsea have done over the last few seasons has effected no club more then ours. While we have spent years building a team capable of making the top 4 with setbacks aplenty, Manchester City pumped millions within a season to catch up with us. It threatened to prevent us achieve our aim last season. It now looks like it will prevent us achieve our aim this season.

Our team is packed with nurtured talent such as Bale, Lennon and Huddlestone. Players who had been developed to the standard they are now at. We achieved this within our means by investing the money the club had generated itself.

Manchester City on the other hand have blown us out of the water with their spending. They spend £20 million here and £30 million there with a £100k a week pay check to boot. What are we supposed to do?

When Chelsea were struggling in January they spent £80 million in a day for two players to get them out of trouble. What are we supposed to do?

These are clubs spending far beyond their means, behaving like the best two teams in the world when they are far from it. They have inflated a market and used money to unnaturally propel themselves above everyone else. That is completely unfair.

Why should one team reap the benefits from a billionaire invester and another not? That may work in business but football is something else. It is about healthy competition and being the best football team. It is not about who has the most money. But Manchester City and Chelsea have reduced it to that.

So before you blame Redknapp or the team for their current position. Think: City, Chelsea and Spurs have all had a dip this season. Two of those teams pumped huge amounts of money beyond their means to stay afloat. We could not because we do not have that kind of money. From the very start of this season we were fighting a losing battle.

However, one thing is for certain. We will continue to build slowly and progress. We will have those setbacks but we will steadily get closer and closer to where we want to be. And when it does happen it will feel far better then how it will for City and Chelsea fans.

They aren't spending beyond their means though, Abramovich is worth £10bn and the Sheikh's family is worth trillions both spend probably what they make in interest in a year, spending beyond means is the likes of Ridsdale
 

chrissivad

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They aren't spending beyond their means though, Abramovich is worth £10bn and the Sheikh's family is worth trillions both spend probably what they make in interest in a year, spending beyond means is the likes of Ridsdale

It doesn't matter how much Abramovich or the Sheikh's family are worth or how much they make each year. Its all to do with the club, they are the ones that cant spend beyond their means.
 

knilly

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Apr 12, 2005
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i genuinely think that once these rules come in Man City/Chelsea will get a new sponsorship deal and have their name on a roundabout somewhere in Dubai/Russia for £XX million pounds a year, or something similar.

Its a long way of putting more money into the club by the owner in a round about way!

and there is probably nothing against the rules about it
 

yawa

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With this new financial fair play system....how are a clubs assets counted?

I can just see the super wealthy clubs doing similar deals to what Real Madrid did a few years back by selling their training ground to the government at some ridiculously overpriced price.

Man City will probably sell their training ground to Dubai Holdings or some bullocks for 5billion and then have 5 billion in assets. Lovely.
 
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