cliff jones
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haha, what a stupid comparison. The point is clearly about misrepresenting spend- in real life. You must have managed to miss that.
Did you pay 200 or 135 for your car?
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Fabio Paratici Sanctioned For 2.5 Years
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Did you pay 200 or 135 for your car?
$hoguN
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Considering how Real and Barca distorted world football for years with their spending, it give me a trouser twitch to watch the Chair of the Spanish league whinge and moan about PSG, City, etc.It's amazing how people can say its been an underwhelming window for all the EPL teams, when you have a look at the charts in this article:
La Liga chief attacks Premier League ‘doped market’ as Europe is left behind
Premier League clubs spent £815m in a record-breaking January, leading Javier Tebas to label the English transfer market ‘doped and inflated’www.theguardian.com
The EPL has basically blown all the other leagues out, outspending them multiple times over. The EPL clubs are hoovering up all the best talent on the continent and Spain, Italy, Germany, and France look like becoming feeders for what the La Liga president calls a doped league.
And people are saying its underwhelming and we should have spent more!
Also worrying is how EPL clubs have stopped buying from the lower English leagues, so the pyramid structure (and the England team) is struggling.
it’s hilarious.
back on Paratici, I think he has really upped the quality of our transfers. It’s just a shame he hasn’t been given the backing to close the rest of the squad gaps
Dazzazzad
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Cliff, you said we spent f-all this window. We didn't, we spent around 50 million. That's what I was responding to.
cliff jones
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Nope. We’ve committed 47 I think the response said. Come the summer, his few remaining supporters will be talking about paying for Porro then, impacting remaining funds available.
Right, back to the other point- how did we spend 200?
SirNiNyHotspur
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Anti-ENiC (spoiled pram toy throwers) and BSoDL do have something in common then with the mental gymnastics I continue to see from the loyal BSoDL, at this stage not sure if they really believe what they write or just don’t want to be wrong… As Cliff is alluding to seems these loan agreement fees can be included whichever or how many windows suits, they excuse each and every window that we fall short, Daniel must be proud of his minions.
These arguments about spend are pointless anyway, you can either agree that we don’t spend enough, we don’t spend it at the right times or we don’t spend it on the right players (I’m sure partly because of ENIC criterial restraints it makes it much harder for the manager to get that round peg for the round hole) But whichever bracket you feel best suits ENIC they certainly fit one if not all and have and continue to be a failure (UNLESS you are happy forever being best of the rest (that ENIC income sweetspot) and care little about glory and trophies)
ENIC continually pointing to FFP shows again they are all about the money and nothing about the success, they’re yelling ‘please have rules to stop us spending so we don’t look bad by having to self enforce limits and bans not to hurt our profits’ Forever excused by their loyal minions. At the end of the day this argument will only stop when one of two things happen, ENIC leave or they change their ways so that we can become successful, until then SC with continue with this full circle….
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Interesting sets of numbers you had chosen to show, but the data from the same website also showed that during these 5 years, we weren’t just outspent by Arsenal with a pretty big margin, we were also outspent by west fucking ham, when both of these teams got no where near our profits level and no CL.
Spurs - $376.28M (net)
West ham - $403.46M (net)
Arsenal - $549.61M (net)
so after looking at those numbers and you are telling me that the club had sufficiently backed our manager?
And no, not everyone is angry because Arsenal might win the league, they’re where they are because the club believe in the manager they chose even during the bad times and provided adequate investment consistently through out the years. That’s what backing the manager looks like.
I wish I could say the same about us
Not spending time on here ???
Well if could be 11 tomorrow and 8 next week. This is the sort of thing that gets on my nerves - if you’re a spurs fan why would you say ‘it could be 20 very soon’? 17 would have been negative but somewhat understandable (they were favourites to beat arsenal and we have city) but why assume on top of that that we can’t even get anything off Leicester. 14 points is plenty without awarding then more they haven’t won yet
SirHarryHotspur
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I was just pointing out the reason that so many fans are upset at the moment a lot of it is to do with Arsenal doing so well, if they below us in the league there wouldn't be so much of this Levy nonsense , in the summer transfer window most fans were going on how wonderful it all is.
Personally I am not anti Levy or pro Levy and I won't be joining in any Levy out chants tomorrow, perhaps the fans should get behind the team as Everton fans did today.
SirHarryHotspur
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Backed more than Klopp , well yes, figures are all there.
Ghost Hardware
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Fairly certain we had ITK at the time that Levy wasn’t convinced by ETH.
Bluto Blutarsky
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Yup - something about a low energy interview with Levy.
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To be fair Ten Hag is clearly a really confident guy. I mean he has seen off Ronaldo which when you think about it is amazing and got them to massively overpay for his former player.
I can see someone with a lot of conviction in their own way to be a bad interview but if I remember rightly he was their Conte in that they needed someone the fans wanted and it seemed like an appeasement as much as a thought out process
I can see someone with a lot of conviction in their own way to be a bad interview but if I remember rightly he was their Conte in that they needed someone the fans wanted and it seemed like an appeasement as much as a thought out process
slartibartfast
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And AVB baffled him with bullshit powerpoint presentations and he gets the job when the prick hasn't got a fkin clue.
You can't treat the appointment of a football manager the same as a managerial appointment in a business.
Saying that how such things come to light and are actually true has to be questioned as well. I mean how the fk would we find out unless Levy actually publicly said it?
So narrow sighted though, look at the starting points for the teams? It’s like saying we spent more money building a house but all they needed was the roof and we needed the whole thing.
Nobody is saying the club don’t spend money, but comparing the financial capabilities of different clubs, are we doing the best we can? Had we provided sufficient backing for the manager to challenge?
The net spend from City was lower than ours too, does that mean we’ve backed our manager more than city had backed pep？
How much we spend is IMO irrelevant. What matters is who we bring in. Are they what we need ? Are they the right quality ? This is where we have gone wrong . Not how much we have spent.
I agree, identifying the right players Is definitely important but how much we are willing to spend will also have a direct impact on who we actually go for, no? Case in point, we wasted millions on Rodon not because we didn’t identify the right player but because we were not willing to spend the extra couple of million on securing skriniar.
Wouldn’t that tells you how much we are willing to spend also matters.
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