Everton Vs Tottenham: Match Thread

[Rupstoh]

Yeah, that mighty away day warrior Defoe would have made all the difference. Like last away game. Touched the ball 4 times, missed two sitters and then got sent off.





Crouch had 3/4 genuine goal attempts, he also set up our only goal, isn't that productive enough for you. He was stupid to get himself offside for the goal but he also held the ball up really well on numerous occasions, bringing other players in and his passing was no worse, or less creative than VDV's last night.

In terms of their abilities, natural games, contribution to the team VDV was below par last night, Crouch did what he does very well. It was our wide players who were the worst under performers last night.

There is a idiotic inability to actually analyse games properly on this forum. Modric, Bale and VDV are fantastic players - some of the best I've ever seen at this club - but it seems that whenever we under-perform, regardless of the actual facts or who under-performs, the same old players get the blame. It's fucking lazy and fucking ignorant. If they have under-performed then prove it, or at least back it up with some intelligent coherent anecdotal evidence., instead of trotting out the same old cliched bollocks agenda against players whose faces don't fit.

This is a superb post and I totally agree with BC's comments.

A lot of people see the game, yet very few watch it.

:bowdown:

 

[bubble07]

I will say it again if Crouch stayed onside the ball would have been cut out. Bale should have run a couple of yards further then crossed it

That chance was completely Bales fault. So frustrating. The hard bit was done Bale just wasn't thinking

 

[Paxtonite]

Yeah, that mighty away day warrior Defoe would have made all the difference. Like last away game. Touched the ball 4 times, missed two sitters and then got sent off.





Crouch had 3/4 genuine goal attempts, he also set up our only goal, isn't that productive enough for you. No it wasnt...He was stupid to get himself offside for the goal yes he was but he also held the ball up really well on numerous occasions you are joking right?, bringing other players in :rofl: and his passing was no worse, or less creative than VDV's last night. OMG now i know you have lost it lol!

In terms of their abilities, natural games, contribution to the team VDV was below par last night Maybe slightly - still had 3/4 attempts on goal, Crouch did what he does very well which i assume is fall over, lose the ball and foul opponents...all in disbelief i should add. It was our wide players who were the worst under performers last night.

There is a idiotic inability to actually analyse games properly on this forum. Modric, Bale and VDV are fantastic players - some of the best I've ever seen at this club - but it seems that whenever we under-perform, regardless of the actual facts or who under-performs, the same old players get the blame. It's fucking lazy and fucking ignorant. If they have under-performed then prove it, or at least back it up with some intelligent coherent anecdotal evidence., instead of trotting out the same old cliched bollocks agenda against players whose faces don't fit.

What are you on??? The only thing "fuckin lazy" and "fuckin ignorant" is blind defence of the indefensible. So of course anyone that doesn't agree with you clearly has an "idiotic inability to actually analyse games" :rofl::rofl:. You are of course the dalhi lama of these boards and all things Tottenham.

Read my post again. Yes the one that at least one other individual agreed with. I have stated that it was a poor performance all round, but crouch didnt do enough and i blame redknapp for perservering with him too long.

I have backed up my argument. If you dont like it then that is up to you. As for crouch's 3/4 genuine goal attempts..bloody well name them. Apart from one that VDV planted on his head and which he bottled in the first half and an off side goal i don't remember any more.

if you just want to insult other posters as a basis for argument, then i feel sorry for you mate.

 

[Huddlestone22]

Yeah, that mighty away day warrior Defoe would have made all the difference. Like last away game. Touched the ball 4 times, missed two sitters and then got sent off.

I wouldn't call them sitters tbh, if they were I expect Spurs to sign you up front.

 

[leffe186]

Glad I avoided the boards last night. This was our first loss in ages and the sky is falling in.

 

[Paxtonite]

I will say it again if Crouch stayed onside the ball would have been cut out. Bale should have run a couple of yards further then crossed it

That chance was completely Bales fault. So frustrating. The hard bit was done Bale just wasn't thinking

Yes i can agree with this. Bale should maybe have got further forward before passing it.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Yeah, that mighty away day warrior Defoe would have made all the difference. Like last away game. Touched the ball 4 times, missed two sitters and then got sent off.





Crouch had 3/4 genuine goal attempts, he also set up our only goal, isn't that productive enough for you. He was stupid to get himself offside for the goal but he also held the ball up really well on numerous occasions, bringing other players in and his passing was no worse, or less creative than VDV's last night.

In terms of their abilities, natural games, contribution to the team VDV was below par last night, Crouch did what he does very well. It was our wide players who were the worst under performers last night.

There is a idiotic inability to actually analyse games properly on this forum. Modric, Bale and VDV are fantastic players - some of the best I've ever seen at this club - but it seems that whenever we under-perform, regardless of the actual facts or who under-performs, the same old players get the blame. It's fucking lazy and fucking ignorant. If they have under-performed then prove it, or at least back it up with some intelligent coherent anecdotal evidence., instead of trotting out the same old cliched bollocks agenda against players whose faces don't fit.

This is a post right out of the top drawer.

 

[Paxtonite]

Glad I avoided the boards last night. This was our first loss in ages and the sky is falling in.

Not quite Leffe. I think that people are generally agreed that the team played poorly and as some of us stated that it was the first loss in 11. Some individuals played worse than others, but that is what causes disagreements more than anything it seems.

I think that there is an element of disappointment on the boards because we didnt capitalise on Chelsea's defeat, that's all. Jan 16 we start again :wink:

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Whilst I approve of Harry's "gung ho" approach the complete absence of a defensive midfield player was a mystery to me, particularly against a side like Everton. Playing two out and out wingers places an added burden on the CM and to play Mods and JJ was a recipe for disaster, particularly when we had both Wilson and Sandro available for the DM role. Lennon contributed little but to replace him with PSB was a madness. Crouch has a value but it is so frustrating that every time he plays the team reverts to the "lump it to Crouch" approach. Everton deserved their win but with a more sensible team selection I feel that we could have won this one. Rant over.

All I would say to this, go and watch the Villa game again if you have it. We played Defoe and VDV up front, with Defoe definitely the furthest forward. In that first half hour we continually humped the ball long and high (Ekotto particularly), and it was one of these stupid humps that led directly to Defoe's sending off.

Crouch made more passes than VDV last night, and he ALWAYS (and I can't stress this enough) makes more passes, just about every single time he plays - usually by a considerable margin - than Pavlyuchenko and Defoe (put together). (I think in all the games they have played ever there has only been one exception to this where Pav outpassed him by a couple)

My point is that Crouch playing has very little negative impact on our passing game, in fact, out of all of our strikers (Crouch, Keane, Pav and Defoe) he has by far the most positive impact on us playing passing football. And his playing doesn't mean we stop humping, it just means we actually have a chance of someone doing something with it instead of it coming straight back.

 

[leffe186]

Not quite Leffe. I think that people are generally agreed that the team played poorly and as some of us stated that it was the first loss in 11. Some individuals played worse than others, but that is what causes disagreements more than anything it seems.

I think that there is an element of disappointment on the boards because we didnt capitalise on Chelsea's defeat, that's all. Jan 16 we start again :wink:

Good. I was down, but had expected us to lose this one. My wife's Villa, so she's in a far worse state. Just glad that we're going to get a rest now.

 

[Mr Pink]

Yeah, that mighty away day warrior Defoe would have made all the difference. Like last away game. Touched the ball 4 times, missed two sitters and then got sent off.





Crouch had 3/4 genuine goal attempts, he also set up our only goal, isn't that productive enough for you. He was stupid to get himself offside for the goal but he also held the ball up really well on numerous occasions, bringing other players in and his passing was no worse, or less creative than VDV's last night.

In terms of their abilities, natural games, contribution to the team VDV was below par last night, Crouch did what he does very well. It was our wide players who were the worst under performers last night.

There is a idiotic inability to actually analyse games properly on this forum. Modric, Bale and VDV are fantastic players - some of the best I've ever seen at this club - but it seems that whenever we under-perform, regardless of the actual facts or who under-performs, the same old players get the blame. It's fucking lazy and fucking ignorant. If they have under-performed then prove it, or at least back it up with some intelligent coherent anecdotal evidence., instead of trotting out the same old cliched bollocks agenda against players whose faces don't fit.

What like you do each and everytime Huddletsone plays and we dont win? Or just as bad - avoiding the issue when a player actually deserves some credit.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

What like you do each and everytime Huddletsone plays and we dont win? Or just as bad - avoiding the issue when a player actually deserves some credit.

Not at all. I have often criticised Huddlestone when we have won as well.

Seriously though, you know full well I have never criticised Hudd without backing up what I'm saying with visual, anecdotal and statistical evidence. Which is exactly what I asked for in the post. If someone analyses it properly and comes across with valid coherent argument then no problem.

But to blame Crouch or Jenas for that performance last night - a performance no worse than many that went before it - with or without the pair of them - was plain wrong, obviously.

 

[Damian99]

What like you do each and everytime Huddletsone plays and we dont win? Or just as bad - avoiding the issue when a player actually deserves some credit.

Those last few sentences of his are surely just one fucking massive contradiction in terms. The guys unreal, surely he must just forget what he posts on here, cos nobody is that daft :shrug:

 

[Bulletspur]

Do some people genuinely expect us to win every game?!

I go into games HOPING we win, and yeah I'm disappointed tonight that we lost and even more disappointed that we weren't even at the races at all - but experience tells me that we will lose. In fact experience (the past 15 years especially!) tells me we'll lose more than we'll win, especially away from home!

So, yeah, I'm delighted overall with where we are. We're still 4th, we've still got great/good/solid players in all positions. Sure, we could do with a new striker or two (if you didn't realise this a good place to start maybe andy's enlightening "our strikers are shit" thread! who knew?)

Onwards and upwards! A rest for our star players against Charlton on Sunday and we move on to United at home. Time to bounce back in style!

I believe its a case of how we lost that hurts as oppose to us just losing, why others are so upset. E.g that game against Chelsea I dont believe it would have hurt as much if they had won 2-1, as everyone agreed, both teams gave their all, sadly we didnt yesterday, for various reasons of course.

 

[Raxscallion]

Post-match interview?

Is there a Harry interview from after the game available anywhere?

Ta!

 

[JJetset]

http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,26691,16426_6636819,00.html

 

[Raxscallion]

http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,26691,16426_6636819,00.html

Nice one. Have another green block. :up: