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Sum Monsterism

Looking for an anecdote
Jun 12, 2012
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Two clubs that backed out because they don't need the money : Man City and Chelsea

Two clubs that joined or risked being left in the dust: Spurs and Arsenal

Two clubs with American owners : Liverpool and MU


Huh?

Enos Stanley Kroenke is an American billionaire businessman. He is the owner of Kroenke Sports & Entertainment, which is the holding company of English Association football club Arsenal F.C.
 

Moonie

Whiteboards are remarkable
Jan 31, 2013
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The European super league is like a big lads night out before everyone asks their Mrs if it’s alright.
 

Gilzeanking

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May 7, 2005
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There is hardly anything to celebrate. This got reversed but the oil clubs remain, champions league drop outs in europa remains, new champions league format is coming which is a disgrace. Most expensive season tickets for rubbish football still here. I'm not really rejoicing. The entire system is still broken
Quite so . Man City/FA can carry on pretending that having their owner as their 'sponsor' is within 'Fair Play' regulations while they and Chelsea trash the transfer market with their endless finance . The slavers who bought the World Cup can continue to ignore the numerous slave deaths in stadia construction . We can lose Kane and poss Son with our horrendous debts and second tier status .

Wave your flags at this wonderful outcome..UEFA /FA shining lights of decency and probity are preserved .Hooray !
 

yankspurs

Enic Out
Aug 22, 2013
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Can we just laugh at the incompetence of these dumb idiot rich people? Jesus christ. This shit took years to do and was worth billions. And it lasts for 2 days only to be undone by a few baseless threats & some fan outrage before apparently flipping a switch and being out.

Nice one, Florentio ya dummy. Real nice. Your lock tight contract signed weeks ago was worth nothing. Now you have to fight your way out of the financial mess you got your club into like any other club would have to do. Greedy bastard.
 

Stamford

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Now that we've addressed this issue perhaps football in this country could deal with the real problem that is ruining it, club ownership.
The fact that Man City and Chelsea were first to say they wanted to leave is no surprise as they don't need to earn money through football or developing revenue streams they've got shady Russian dark money and the oil revenues of a small country to spend whenever they like.

exactly.If Boris Johnson really cared about football he would begin moving that along, which of course he doesn't
 

Seafordian Spurs

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Aug 20, 2013
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Quite so . Man City/FA can carry on pretending that having their owner as their 'sponsor' is within 'Fair Play' regulations while they and Chelsea trash the transfer market with their endless finance . The slavers who bought the World Cup can continue to ignore the numerous slave deaths in stadia construction . We can lose Kane and poss Son with our horrendous debts and second tier status .

Wave your flags at this wonderful outcome..UEFA /FA shining lights of decency and probity are preserved .Hooray !

Absolutely. The hypocrisy of Sky et al.
 

Shadydan

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Jul 7, 2012
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There's no naivety in seeing plain English and a clear statement from them versus the weasel-worded back-tracking from us. Their apology was an actual apology. You can debate their intent behind it if you like, but the statement included an actual apology. That is unlike the one from Levy, containing the usual Levy-lingo "should like to" do something or other and "regrets anxiety and upset". You're right, he's not sorry and that's his prerogative.

But Arsenal's statement suggests the blowback from the proposal has had the effect of changing their mind ("we made a mistake"), which is a strong position to take and one that should be lauded because that's usually not easy, especially in a high-profile case. We all make mistakes, and you're criticizing their turn-around because they made the mistake in the first place. By all means, cast the first stone if you're so flawless, but I say well done Arsenal.

Your opinion of Levy, which I share, is the bigger issue for our club going forward. Levy's statement suggests the blowback is mistaken and misplaced. Should he be in his position if he doesn't acknowledge that his rightfully partisan leadership of Spurs should not extend to undermining what sport and competition actually is.

Well done Arsenal? Embarrassing - you're praising an owner who saw fit to turn football into a circus, an owner who has dragged his club and football through the mud and has no intention of keeping or at least addressing the traditions and core values of the sport.

Not one owner should be praised for being remorseful for this, I don't care if they offer an apology, they've already shown their true colours and are most likely to find and opportunity to do this again, the apology is fucking meaningless. The point it that this is not Kronke's or the Arsenal boards first mistake since they rocked up however this is the first time they've faced public backlash from everyone, the are simply trying to save face.

The truth is it doesn't matter what Levy said in his statement because you all have already made your minds up about him. Whether we thought that he was justified or not an apology wouldn't matter and I guarantee you that people would be up in arms about him patronising the fans by apologising.

Yeah but let's praise Stan Kronke because he said sorry and move on with our lives, good one. The guys a parasite to football, and this is me speaking as a football fan, there is nothing good to positive of these owners for these clubs, they're all scumbags and none of these guys deserve forgiveness.
 
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Johnny J

Not the Kiwi you need but the one you deserve
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Directors of companies can be sued personally for their willful negligence or dishonesty. Most companies buy directors and officers insurance to cover this type of claim.
But not normally by a third party in a situation like this. Usually by a shareholder, creditor or employee.
 

tototoner

Staying Alert
Mar 21, 2004
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I do think there have been some massive overreactions to this thing though.
I mean, phoenix clubs, chairmen resigning? It's not the first bad business plan that's failed and it won't be the last. People just like to proclaim their outrage at anything nowadays.
As I said before, it was never going to happen.
People love faux outrage, it's what social media does best
 

onthetwo

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May 19, 2006
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Two clubs that backed out because they don't need the money : Man City and Chelsea

Two clubs that were lucky to be asked to join and knew the risk of being left in the dust: Spurs and Arsenal

Two clubs with American owners : Liverpool and MU
Two clubs that needed a bailout (one of which tried to fool us into thinking it was for the good of the game!): Real & Barca
 

olliec

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Just waiting for Uncle Joe’s homespun apology. Also, why does John Henry buy his furniture from Argos?

Now that’s classy. Takes a big man to admit he’s made a mistake. Levy your turn? Because right now we as fans are extremely disappointed with your statement.

yes he probably done it to try and get the fans back on side. But at least he made an effort. Levy hasn’t even apologised to the fans for his monumental fuck up in this whole thing.
So yes what Liverpool owner did is a lot more classy than what levy has done.
 
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