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hellava_tough

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Are Zagreb and Antwerp total dross? Both beat us this year and the fact they are able to beat us means the club of "25-30" is not completely closed

When weas the last time they won a European competition?

I'm not talking about the odd match, when the opposition is having an off-day.

I'm talking about sustained success over a decade.
 

rez9000

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So the ESL is over and we’ve sacked Jose. What are we all going to be divided about now? It could get boring on here for a while and we might turn into one big happy family! Arghh.
We should argue over those who have insectoid creatures in their usernames vs. those with numbers.

Those insectoidistas - what are they on about? Can't they see that they're past it, that the future is all about numbers????
 

Gingernut

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When weas the last time they won a European competition?

I'm not talking about the odd match, when the opposition is having an off-day.

I'm talking about sustained success over a decade.
Depends on what you classify as sustained success. I wouldn't say we have had sustained success for over a decade to be honest.

Also, "Total Dross" is not the description to use for the remaining teams outside of the top 25-30 you mention.
 
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chas vs dave

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I have to say, despite the anger and the clash of views. The humour on here has been fantastic. It really made the 48 hours really interesting. (y)
 

rez9000

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Quite so . Man City/FA can carry on pretending that having their owner as their 'sponsor' is within 'Fair Play' regulations while they and Chelsea trash the transfer market with their endless finance . The slavers who bought the World Cup can continue to ignore the numerous slave deaths in stadia construction . We can lose Kane and poss Son with our horrendous debts and second tier status .

Wave your flags at this wonderful outcome..UEFA /FA shining lights of decency and probity are preserved .Hooray !
You're not wrong, Gilly - we're not in some promised land of football with the death of the Super League proposal. But, where we are now is still better than where we could have been had it gone through. Being stuck in a dirty house is still better than being neck deep in a cesspit, right?

The key is that we don't rest on our laurels. This is an opportunity for fans to really push back. How we do it, I don't know. My hope is that the Football Supporters Association can organise the fans across the country and start calling for real reform of the governance of football.

Whether they will is another question.
 

easley91

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joelstinton14

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I think the problem is the fact that there are only 25 to 30 'decent' teams in Europe and the hundreds of other clubs are total dross compared to them.

Big money has been a part of the game now for 30 years and this is the reality it's created.

I'm not actually against it to be honest, but I am against the facade of 'equality' and 'romance' that the likes of Uefa and pundits like Gary Neville bang on about.

The game is already a closed shop...well, almost; perhaps there's still a 2-inch gap that a smaller club could squeeze through, but it's getting smaller and smaller every season.

Fast forward 10 years. You reckon that the footballing landscape will be more equal? Or even the same as it is today? Of course not. The big clubs are going to be even bigger. With every new TV deal they get a bigger slice of the pie.

Anyway, who knows, perhaps in 20 years time the world's first trillionaire, Jeff Bezos, will just come along, set his own super league up from scratch, pay every player 2 million quid a week, stream the whole thing to 3 billion people across the planet, rake in the ad revenue and that will be that. :LOL:

I think most people accept their is a gap between quality of teams and that the money gone into the game as closed the shop to a certain degree.

But we shouldn’t be so arrogant to say these clubs don’t matter. What Perez had to say about them was insulting to be honest. It was pure arrogance. Yes his views could be backed up by viewership figures and stats over a longer trend (of what teams achieve) but we should never close the door on sides because of their name or prestige (lack of). Football is still a relatively young sport professionally. Who is to say who will be a big name in a hundred years time. May well be the likes of Leicester or Seville are the big names who won loads of trophies.

You could look at our CL league run to the final. That very opportunity may have been taken away from us if this ESL came in 10 years ago

The script is always being written.
 
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