Europa Conference League 2021-22: the Road to Tirana, Albania

[aliyid]

Is there a list anywhere of teams currently confirmed in this? UEFA's website management team are probs too busy drowning in drugs and money to remember to update it.

Roma (Jose’s new club),
Villarreal (Europa Lge finalists),
Union Berlin,
Anderlecht,
Plus a few dropping out of Europa playoffs.

Chance to be the first ever winners (one for the record books alongside first double and first European trophy by an English side)

 

[EmperorKabir]

Co-efficient calculations:

source: https://kassiesa.net/uefa/calc.html

as the UEFA website is incoherent, contradictory and not updated for conference league (of course).

 

[TheChosenOne]

Roma (Jose’s new club),
Villarreal (Europa Lge finalists),
Union Berlin,
Anderlecht,
Plus a few dropping out of Europa playoffs.

Chance to be the first ever winners (one for the record books alongside first double and first European trophy by an English side)

Hoping they beat Man U to go in the CL.

 

[TheAmerican]

Co-efficient calculations:

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source: https://kassiesa.net/uefa/calc.html

as the UEFA website is incoherent, contradictory and not updated for conference league (of course).

If I'm reading this, winning would provide similar points to a semi-final finish in the CL? If so, that makes me feel considerably better. We desperately need more points given this year's performance.

 

[carmeldevil]

What have we achieved in the last 30 years that gives us the sense we can turn our noses up at any competition? Leicester has won more in the last 5 years than we've won in the last 30. Sevilla don't look at these competitions as being beneath them so why do we do it?

Play a rotated team with youth players getting experience in the qualifying and group stages and then once we get into the knockout stage and playing the likes of Roma and Villareal play the first team.

At the end of the day it's a UEFA sanctioned competition, a cup final day out and a chance for us to cheer winning a trophy.

This. Need a winning mentality and that starts at the top. If you desire to win everywhere and build the proper mindset throughout the club, then you'll get better chances to win.

 

[spursfan77]

Honestly if we cant win this then we might as well give up surely?

I know there are a couple of good teams in it but if we want to be a champions league club again we should be swatting this lot aside.

 

[Guntz]

If there was ever a better chance to get the no trophies hoodoo off our backs, then it's with this competition.

 

[TOLBINY]

Moreover, 20 teams eliminated from the 2021–22 UEFA Champions League and 26 teams eliminated from the 2021–22 UEFA Europa League are transferred to the Europa Conference League.
For this season, only 19 teams eliminated from the 2021–22 UEFA Champions League are transferred, as there is one fewer team competing in the Champions Path qualifying of 2021–22 UEFA Champions League.

It's a complete farce - UEFA were moaning a few weeks back that the ESL lacked fair competition. If you enter / qualify for a cup competition and get knocked out, that should be the end of it for that season. No second chances.

 

[cliff jones]

If Mason goes back to the academy, I would go as far as just letting him and our kids use this for experience.

This is the equivalent of the papa johns trophy and our first team should be nowhere near it.

and Mason could still play Winks and Dier in it

 

[E17yid]

I think people are really overestimating the effect of potentially winning this cup is going to have on the players/club. I think it’ll have next to no effect at all to be honest.

Firstly, most people seem to be on board with playing the kids for 80% of the tournament so who are we talking about who is going to benefit from this amazing cup victory? The youth who have played the majority of it, albeit against shit teams, or the senior players who play 1 or 2 games against respectable clubs? Or is it everyone?

I think players want to win every game they’re involved in whether that’s the cup final of a 3rd rate European competition or a game of Trivial Pursuit against some kids but I think they’ll also realise, if our players have any serious ambition, that while better to win it than not, it’s nothing to get excited about either. How cringe would it be if we won it then the players started going on about how we’re going to kick on and win big cups now.

 

[rossdapep]

I think people are really overestimating the effect of potentially winning this cup is going to have on the players/club. I think it’ll have next to no effect at all to be honest.

Firstly, most people seem to be on board with playing the kids for 80% of the tournament so who are we talking about who is going to benefit from this amazing cup victory? The youth who have played the majority of it, albeit against shit teams, or the senior players who play 1 or 2 games against respectable clubs? Or is it everyone?

I think players want to win every game they’re involved in whether that’s the cup final of a 3rd rate European competition or a game of Trivial Pursuit against some kids but I think they’ll also realise, if our players have any serious ambition, that while better to win it than not, it’s nothing to get excited about either. How cringe would it be if we won it then the players started going on about how we’re going to kick on and win big cups now.

Poch was able to blood and build trust with younger players by using the Europa Cup. He was also able to use it as an opportunity to work on his strategy.

The more football for a new coach the better.

 

[chrisd2k]

Poch was able to blood and build trust with younger players by using the Europa Cup. He was also able to use it as an opportunity to work on his strategy.

The more football for a new coach the better.

Think the point is less time on the training pitch to work on the style the manager wants. It's fine when playing at home but away to God knows where not so much

 

[E17yid]

Poch was able to blood and build trust with younger players by using the Europa Cup. He was also able to use it as an opportunity to work on his strategy.

The more football for a new coach the better.

I disagree. I think most new coaches want as much time with the senior squad on the training pitch as possible. Having another game a week to prep for and using another separate team for that game doesn’t help things, imho.

I’d also say it’s a bit different talking about the Europa to this competition. And on top of that Poch wasn’t a massive fan of it and mugged it off. Imagine what he’d be like with this one. I’m in the give it to the kids camp but how much are we really going to learn from it?

 

[aliyid]

I’m in the give it to the kids camp but how much are we really going to learn from it?

If we get to see Scarlett banging in a few goals and building his confidence then I'll be happy

 

[whitesocks]

It is all very saying play the kids, but that only works out well if we win.
If we lose then no-one will care about a weakened team - we'll be mocked for losing to a nobody and that will affect all the players.
And all those fans who took a week off to travel there by donkey will complain that they put the effort in, so why couldn't the club? Redknapp was beaten with that stick a few times.

Also Levy will want to charge near full wack for the home games and can only hope to half fill up the ground if there are more than a few 'stars' in the squad.

This competition is a chain round our necks, as is the europa.
It certainly makes no sense for a side like us that hates the ball and has to work hard for any win. The number of games we can play in a season is limited, before there is a big fall off in performance.

 

[EQP]

Quick questions for those who want us to go all in on the ECL.

1) Do you feel because we're most likely to be playing middling/average opposition in this tournament that we stand a greater chance of winning it?

2) Do you trust the current 1st team players to amply motivate themselves to give their all against said middling/average competition?

 

[E17yid]

If we get to see Scarlett banging in a few goals and building his confidence then I'll be happy

Sure, so will I but I’m not going to start thinking that we’ve finally got the monkey off our back if we win it either. All in all it’s very meh, don’t care, for me. I’ll be happy if we play a majority academy team from start to finish and we win it but even then I’m not exactly going to be in tears on my knees thanking the football gods for delivering us the Europa conference cup.

 

[mumfordspur]

I don't know if I will get a sensible answer to this but I will try.

Q. How does the ECL compare in stature to the Carabao Cup

 

[Gingernut]

I don't know if I will get a sensible answer to this but I will try.

Q. How does the ECL compare in stature to the Carabao Cup

I think that If you win the carabao cup you qualify for the ECL

 

[SonicSarr]

I don't know if I will get a sensible answer to this but I will try.

Q. How does the ECL compare in stature to the Carabao Cup

More akin to the Johnson Paint Trophy than the Carabao Cup.