Erik Lamela

[Leoparden]

he's currently up there as one of the worst signings in pl history. soldado that is, not lamela.

What thread was this again?

 

[JerryGarcia]

So after 1 season, you're already saying that...

I would usually now go on about other players who had poor first seasons and drew similar comments to yours but I know you won't take any notice because "you never back down" and all that rubbish...

It seems the fashionable thing to do on the internet these days, if they have a weak argument or one that is just based on their weird personal grudge/refusal to ever back down , they grossly exagerate their point in an attempt to make it sound valid. Most people can see through this tactic, thankfully.

 

[Blake Griffin]

We haven't paid £26m for him. If he fullfils all the add-on clauses, then we will. As for physical qualities, remind yourself of the goal he set up against Southampton last season.

there was only one article out of hundreds that stated some of the fee was dependent on add ons, i can see why you're clinging to that hope, i do the same. it was a nice cross but it was ade who made it possible, thank god we still had ade kicking around somewhere, without him we'd have probably finished 20 points down had soldado stayed in the side.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

there was only one article out of hundreds that stated some of the fee was dependent on add ons, i can see why you're clinging to that hope, i do the same. it was a nice cross but it was ade who made it possible, thank god we still had ade kicking around somewhere, without him we'd have probably finished 20 points down had soldado stayed in the side.

Correct.

We agreed a club record deal to sign a top international striker to lead the line. The best strikers score goals no matter what side they're in.

Soldado failed to score goals. He has, up to this point, flopped spectacularly.

 

[JerryGarcia]

20 points down?

See what I mean @THFCSPURS19

 

[JerryGarcia]

Correct.

We agreed a club record deal to sign a top international striker to lead the line. The best strikers score goals no matter what side they're in.

Soldado failed to score goals. He has, up to this point, flopped spectacularly.

He did score double figures last season (11) if we want to look at the facts, although I realise that the popular opinion is that penalties don't count as goals these days.

 

[Blake Griffin]

It seems the fashionable thing to do on the internet these days, if they have a weak argument or one that is just based on their weird personal grudge/refusal to ever back down , they grossly exagerate their point in an attempt to make it sound valid. Most people can see through this tactic thankfully.

two goals from open play
26m
29 years old

and i'm the one with the weak argument?

just to put this into context harry kane got 3 from 7 and he cost us nothing. i thought the idea of buying soldado was that he's "ready made", the "finished article" and that he was going to "bang them in". he's been absolutely 100% undeniably awful for the money we've paid. as far as strikers go i can only think of torres, carroll and shevchenko who'd be above him in the worst value for money "strikers" signed by pl clubs. it's not like he's a pup either, even if he manages to adjust to the pl next season he'll only be able to give us two or three years. i want him to come good as much as the next guy but he's been a disasterous signing, as predicted by me this time last year.

 

[felmani26]

he's currently up there as one of the worst signings in pl history. soldado that is, not lamela.

Behave.

 

[Blake Griffin]

Behave.

the ball's in your court. name them. i've given you three already above just to be kind. if liverpool had managed to beat us to signing soldado last season i have this funny feeling that opinions around here would be slightly different. just a hunch.

 

[jurgen]

i want him to come good as much as the next guy.

I guess we are to deduce that the next guy is also obsessed with being proved right to the detriment of the club as well, and that he also does not consider penalties to be goals? But what about the guy next to the next guy? Or the guy next to the next guy next to the next guy?

 

[nightgoat]

there was only one article out of hundreds that stated some of the fee was dependent on add ons, i can see why you're clinging to that hope, i do the same. it was a nice cross but it was ade who made it possible, thank god we still had ade kicking around somewhere, without him we'd have probably finished 20 points down had soldado stayed in the side.

Adebayor wasn't even playing in that game.

 

[E17yid]

the ball's in your court. name them. i've given you three already above just to be kind. if liverpool had managed to beat us to signing soldado last season i have this funny feeling that opinions around here would be slightly different. just a hunch.

If soldado signed for LFC last year he might have got some decent service.

 

[Blake Griffin]

I guess we are to deduce that the next guy is also obsessed with being proved right to the detriment of the club as well, and that he also does not consider penalties to be goals? But what about the guy next to the next guy? Or the guy next to the next guy next to the next guy?

i want soldado to come good, he comes across as a decent guy and you can see that he tries, i'll always support players like that even if i don't rate them highly as a player.

 

[nightgoat]

If soldado signed for LFC last year he might have got some decent service.

And presumably wouldn't have been jettisoned for the last few months of the season due to the manager having a pathetic agenda to pursue.

 

[Blake Griffin]

Adebayor wasn't even playing in that game.

i apologise, although i have unrivalled foresight, i can't actually read minds. you're referring to the home game vs southampton then.

 

[felmani26]

the ball's in your court. name them. i've given you three already above just to be kind. if liverpool had managed to beat us to signing soldado last season i have this funny feeling that opinions around here would be slightly different. just a hunch.

I'm not going to enter a futile debate with you - appreciate strong opinions 'n all but Soldado is far from worst ever signing.

Now, to debate whether he was the right striker for us, or indeed will he ever be the right fit for us, well there's a different argument.

 

[JerryGarcia]

two goals from open play
26m
29 years old

and i'm the one with the weak argument?

just to put this into context harry kane got 3 from 7 and he cost us nothing. i thought the idea of buying soldado was that he's "ready made", the "finished article" and that he was going to "bang them in". he's been absolutely 100% undeniably awful for the money we've paid. as far as strikers go i can only think of torres, carroll and shevchenko who'd be above him in the worst value for money "strikers" signed by pl clubs. it's not like he's a pup either, even if he manages to adjust to the pl next season he'll only be able to give us two or three years. i want him to come good as much as the next guy but he's been a disasterous signing, as predicted by me this time last year.

I'm not arguing that he had a good season, he was below average and didn't play well enough to keep his place in the team. That doesn't make him a write off this season though and it doesn't mean that you can legitimately keep claiming that he only scored two goals from open play without mentioning the other 9 he scored which (correct me if I'm wrong) still counted towards the score in the matches we played?

No, my argument was that you and a few others keep having to exagerate what you you say in what seems like an attempt to help prove your point. I don't know if it's this "never back down" thing whatever that is, but I hope it doesn't stop you from giving these players a chance if they do start performing to your standards.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

i apologise, although i have unrivalled foresight, i can't actually read minds. you're referring to the home game vs southampton then.

Oh shut up about foresight FFS

 

[allatsea]

i apologise, although i have unrivalled foresight, i can't actually read minds. you're referring to the home game vs southampton then.

I thought this was the Lamela thread ?

 

[JerryGarcia]

i apologise, although i have unrivalled foresight, i can't actually read minds. you're referring to the home game vs southampton then.

Holy shit did you just back down? Oh you didn't, there's an 'although' in there.