Eric Dier

[13VanDerBale13]

Whatever you think of his playing ability, that would seem — to me — to be very out of character for him.

True, just find it all strange timing tbh.

 

[Tonio]

This is the thing that is most likely reason as to why I will give up my season ticket. The negative, aggressive, and frankly shameful abuse toward people is a real drain.

Its fine to not like Dier, Levy, etc...

However, to hate and abuse? They are just people doing a job. No one really knows them.

Why don’t you do you and let other people do themselves. How about that?

 

[chas vs dave]

This is the thing that is most likely reason as to why I will give up my season ticket. The negative, aggressive, and frankly shameful abuse toward people is a real drain.

Why don’t you do you and let other people do themselves. How about that?

So people being aggressive and abusing people is OK in your book?

 

[Chris Flynn]

No offence, but isn't this you.

Don't take this the wrong way, but you seem to be quite venomous on this site.

If thats the most venemous reply from him you can find, he's basically a saint

 

[Tonio]

So people being aggressive and abusing people is OK in your book?

There isn’t a world where people are going to hold hands and buy each other a coke. Stop trying to police other people’s thoughts and actions. YES it’s ok In my book to call someone shit or say they’re no good as a footballer.

Edit: should fans also stop chanting ‘oooooo your shit ahhhhhhhh’ when the opposition goalkeeper takes a kick or ‘ your shit and you know you are’ at opposite players.
What about ‘the referees a wanker’?
where do you want to draw a line.

 

[chas vs dave]

If thats the most venemous reply from him you can find, he's basically a saint

It's one of many. It's more about the goading, and incitement.

 

[bomberH]

Being loyal doesn’t mean staying at a club if you have to accept a pay cut and be told you won’t be playing much. That’s more stupid than loyal. That’s the clubs way of slowly wanting him out so I wouldn’t blame him for now thinking his time is up.

It’s certainly time for him to move on but at one point he was my favourite player. The battle of the bridge was my favourite Dier game. He kicked lumps out of every Chelsea player on the pitch and literally threatened to kill Fabregas as he was being subbed off. I don’t condone violence, obviously, but under section 3 of the Hate Chelsea Act of 1964, this was lawfully acceptable.

 

[chas vs dave]

There isn’t a world where people are going to hold hands and buy each other a coke. Stop trying to police other people’s thoughts and actions. YES it’s ok In my book to call someone shit or say they’re no good as a footballer.

Calling someone shit in a forum is fine, abusing someone is completely different. It lacks nuance, but that's your choice to just spout.

I'm not policing you, calm down.

 

[gavspur]

Eh, what’s happened now?

 

[maglajz]

There isn’t a world where people are going to hold hands and buy each other a coke. Stop trying to police other people’s thoughts and actions. YES it’s ok In my book to call someone shit or say they’re no good as a footballer.

So abusing someone is ok in your book, but people calling the abuse out is suddenly policing the thoughts. Funny how that freedom of actions stops when you personally don't like it

 

[Tonio]

So abusing someone is ok in your book, but people calling the abuse out is suddenly policing the thoughts. Funny how that freedom of actions stops when you personally don't like it

Except I don’t see it as abuse. It’s been that way for as long as I’ve been a fan. If
that’s how you see it then that’s your outlook. And while you’re about it I assume you’ll be in the Levy out thread in a bit to push your opinion on the comments in there? Where words like parasite and midget and the like are rife.

 

[spurslenny]

Elaborate conspiracy theory ahoy!

Kane was willing to stay and confided as much to Eric. Levy wasn't having any of that, and jumped at the chance to rinse a big club for 100mil plus. Eric went full Chris Hemsworth (Extraction mode) and kicked in Levy's office door and went ballistic, confronting him and demanding he u-turn on his decision. Levy Levy'd, and refused.
Eric responded by threatening ('threatening' lolz) to never play for the club again.

The rest is social media history, as they say.

True story.

 

[soflapaul]

We’re not getting Champions League. We really need to check in with ourselves and realise where we are. Sorry.

we don't know where we are and to suggest we are or aren't with certainty is just onions.

 

[Tonio]

Calling someone shit in a forum is fine, abusing someone is completely different. It lacks nuance, but that's your choice to just spout.

I'm not policing you, calm down.

This i agree with. I haven’t personally abused him to my knowledge.

 

[soflapaul]

There isn’t a world where people are going to hold hands and buy each other a coke. Stop trying to police other people’s thoughts and actions. YES it’s ok In my book to call someone shit or say they’re no good as a footballer.

Edit: should fans also stop chanting ‘oooooo your shit ahhhhhhhh’ when the opposition goalkeeper takes a kick or ‘ your shit and you know you are’ at opposite players.
What about ‘the referees a wanker’?
where do you want to draw a line.

It's whether or not you protect those in your own tribe. The opposing players know they are in a different tribe. Some of that "abuse" is expected and enhances the game especially if its done creatively. That particular chant is pretty easy to ignore if you are a player so it probably has zero effect.

 

[robotsonic]

Personally I wish people would stop policing Eric Dier's performance

 

[chas vs dave]

This i agree with. I haven’t personally abused him to my knowledge.

And that's fine. Let me clarify, abusing others on social media isn't fine. We've had the argument over whether dier is shit or not, we can disagree .

My concern is that when he goes, the there are particular fans who will latch onto the next player, regardless of reality.

I saw it on Facebook, straight after the barca game, people ranting about how shit sanchez was, despite him having a good game. There was no logic to it at all.

 

[Tonio]

It's whether or not you protect those in your own tribe. The opposing players know they are in a different tribe. Some of that "abuse" is expected and enhances the game especially if its done creatively. That particular chant is pretty easy to ignore if you are a player so it probably has zero effect.

Oh come on now. So “abuse” is ok as long as it’s not our players?

 

[Tonio]

And that's fine. Let me clarify, abusing others on social media isn't fine. We've had the argument over whether dier is shit or not, we can disagree .

My concern is that when he goes, the there are particular fans who will latch onto the next player, regardless of reality.

I saw it on Facebook, straight after the barca game, people ranting about how shit sanchez was, despite him having a good game. There was no logic to it at all.

Fair enough.

 

[Dave1882]

Him leaving would make up for my Kane anguish and return some optimism for this season!