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Trent Crimm

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You could have multiple different books with different values that doesn't mean it's fraud. How much I'd be willing to pay is different than how much a player is valued which is different than how much I'd be willing to sell someone for. Nearly all clubs would value their own players higher and other clubs players less.

Wouldn't surprise me in the least to see him cleared of wrongdoing.

Have you recently been running a Crypto company ?
 

mpickard2087

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As said, wtf with the production values on that? :LOL: You'd expect at least a slick PR puff piece, him wheeled out in a suit at the training ground/stadium/club offices. Instead he's lounging around in an open neck shirt, unshaven, unkempt hair, badly lit room, and conducted via video call with the feel of budget software and internet.

We sure he hasn't fled down a South American bolthole already?
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Is our PR Officer really that bad that they think putting this video out is a good idea or will get fans onside?

What a mess the club is.
💯 shocking wasn’t it just complete and utter nonsense pointless meaningless PR garbage 🗑️

Absolutely nothing to get excited about or get behind in his video/statement.

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fishhhandaricecake

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If you listen to Levy’s original interview when he hired Paratici he said one of the things that really impressed him was that he was a tough negotiator, he also said he’s been part of a successful Juventus side so hopefully some of that can rub off on us.

1) Seeing ‘negotiation’ as the n.o1 key USP of a DofF says it all about Levy and our issues, he’s thinking about business and money rather than is the DofF actually good at formulating a successful football philosophy and strategy for success that will fit with our club and fans aims and resources

2) Just because he was part of a successful Juventus side doesn’t mean he’ll make us successful just the same thing with Jose and Conte

We needed a DofF like Campos or Rangnick etc who have a track record of identifying young talented players for decent prices who are then developed by managers who play aggressive pressing attractive possession football.

Yet again Levy looked it this decision to hire Paratici in completely the wrong way.
 

Trent Crimm

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As said, wtf with the production values on that? :LOL: You'd expect at least a slick PR puff piece, him wheeled out in a suit at the training ground/stadium/club offices. Instead he's lounging around in an open neck shirt, unshaven, unkempt hair, badly lit room, and conducted via video call with the feel of budget software and internet.

We sure he hasn't fled down a South American bolthole already?

We do reuse safe houses. Maybe he’s in the same one Danjuma was in.
 

RELISYS

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If you listen to Levy’s original interview when he hired Paratici he said one of the things that really impressed him was that he was a tough negotiator, he also said he’s been part of a successful Juventus side so hopefully some of that can rub off on us.

1) Seeing ‘negotiation’ as the n.o1 key USP of a DofF says it all about Levy and our issues, he’s thinking about business and money rather than is the DofF actually good at formulating a successful football philosophy and strategy for success that will fit with our club and fans aims and resources

2) Just because he was part of a successful Juventus side doesn’t mean he’ll make us successful just the same thing with Jose and Conte

We needed a DofF like Campos or Rangnick etc who have a track record of identifying young talented players for decent prices who are then developed by managers who play aggressive pressing attractive possession football.

Yet again Levy looked it this decision to hire Paratici in completely the wrong way.
So the original source of that negotiator quote was from a video interview?

I thought it was fake and a rewording of the following quote which was taken from the Club statement when we appointed Paratici.

“I've known Fabio for a number of years and he brings with him a wealth of experience in scouting, youth and football operations. He has an outstanding track record in assembling competitive squads. As we all know, Juventus have been a highly successful club and he has been a major part of that. He will be a great addition to the management structure. I am delighted that he will be heading up the football side of the Club as we look ahead to next season.”

Looking at that quote from Daniel Levy, he was clearly brought in for the right reasons and not just as a negotiator.
 

septicsac

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I would say what levy liked about Patrici was his ability to sign players at their end of contract for as little money as possible. This suits his penny pinching policy ala the jack Grealish transfer he royally f##ked up.
How Patrici is still at the club is beyond me, his is now tainted and a stain on the club no matter what way you look at it. I cannot fathom the reason for this recent vid, it reeks of unprofessionalism and the usually lack of planning.
 

sidford

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For Tottenham Hotspur, the first day of life after Antonio Conte began with Fabio Paratici following events in courtroom two in the Palace of Justice in Turin.

It didn’t take long. Monday’s preliminary hearing of the Prisma inquiry, which relates to allegations of financial malpractice at Juventus between 2019 and 2021, was adjourned until May 10, leaving Paratici, Tottenham’s managing director of football, to return to the not-so-small matter of finding a new head coach, planning for what threatens to be a challenging summer in the transfer market and even issuing state-of-the-nation addresses to try to appease a frustrated fanbase.

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On Tuesday evening Tottenham’s official website published an interview with Paratici “to discuss a number of important topics as we head into the season’s final run-in”.

These topics included Conte (highlighting the personal difficulties the coach has faced in a season when he has lost two close friends, Gian Piero Ventrone and Gianluca Vialli, but describing his departure as “the right decision for everyone”); the benefits of placing Cristian Stellini in temporary charge; the importance of ending the campaign strongly; his belief that Tottenham are progressing at academy level; and the search for a new head coach, going a little off-message by suggesting, rather unconvincingly, that “we do not speak about other coaches”.

So far, so relatively normal. But there is a rather large elephant in the room.

Paratici has been banned from any involvement in Italian football for two and a half years, the longest of the suspensions handed out to 11 current and former Juventus executives in January. Former president Andrea Agnelli and chief executive Maurizio Arrivabene have been banned for two years and vice-president and former player Pavel Nedved for eight months. All 11 deny any wrongdoing and an appeal against the Italian Football Federation (FIGC) sanctions will be heard by the Italian Olympic Committee on April 19.

Agnelli, Arrivabene and Nedved all resigned from the Juventus board in December as the Prisma crisis intensified, but Paratici has been free to continue working because the suspension does not apply in England. The FIGC has requested to UEFA and FIFA that the sanction be extended worldwide, but for now, it seems to be business as usual for Paratici and Tottenham.



And these days, business as usual tends to mean turmoil. The stability of the Mauricio Pochettino years has given way to upheaval. In the past three and a half years, they have sacked Pochettino, hired and fired Jose Mourinho, appointed Ryan Mason as interim, hired and fired Nuno Espirito Santo and now hired and fired Conte and appointed his assistant Stellini on an interim basis while looking for a long-term successor.

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It was in the hope of restoring stability that Levy appointed Paratici in the summer of 2021, citing his “wealth of experience in scouting, youth and football operations” and his “outstanding track record in assembling competitive squads”.

It would be fair to describe Paratici’s record at Tottenham as mixed. The acquisitions of Rodrigo Bentancur and Dejan Kulusevski from Juventus and Cristian Romero from Atalanta have brought praise, as have some of his signings at development level and appointments behind the scenes, but it is hard to look too far beyond those chaotic first few months in the job — which saw him pivot from Conte to Paulo Fonseca to Gennaro Gattuso before appointing Nuno, then swiftly replacing him with Conte, whose outlook and ideas were at odds with the club’s from the start.

Nearly two years after Levy’s mea culpa letter to Tottenham’s supporters, talking of having “lost sight of some key priorities and what’s truly in our DNA” and the need to find a coach who would restore a tradition of “free-flowing, attacking and entertaining” football while developing younger players, the club still appears to be stuck in its post-Pochettino rut.

At times over the past two decades, Levy has been as impatient with sporting directors as he has with coaches, with Franco Baldini and Damien Comolli among those to have had the job. Paratici has done well to retain Levy’s trust throughout a volatile period, particularly as he has often been the man caught in the crossfire between the chairman and an increasingly disillusioned coach.

The bigger question mark over Paratici relates to the Prisma inquiry, whether his 30-month ban (which he is appealing against) will be extended beyond Italian football and how, with the court case to come, the whole situation might impact Tottenham.

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It is important to reiterate that Paratici, like the others involved, denies any wrongdoing. Nor has there been any suggestion of wrongdoing at Tottenham.

But it is nonetheless uncomfortable for Tottenham, to say the least, that one of their senior executives has not only been caught up in the Juventus scandal but has received the heaviest of all the sanctions imposed by the FIGC.

The evidence compiled against Juventus and the various individuals by public prosecutors in Turin includes wire-tapped telephone conversations and seizures on premises owned by the club. There are allegations of false corporate communications, false communications to the stock market, obstruction of a supervisory authority (CONSOB, the Italian equivalent of the US securities and exchange commission) and fraud. They have queried more than €170million (£149.3m; $184.3m) in “booked” transfer revenue between 2019 and 2021, alleging the sums recorded were artificially inflated.

One of the key pieces of evidence cited in the written reasons for Juventus’ 15-point penalty was a document found among the possessions of Federico Cherubini, who succeeded Paratici as sporting director and has been banned for 16 months. It is said to have been entitled ‘Libro Nero FP’ — ‘Black Book FP’ — where, according to the FIGC Court of Appeal, “FP refers to the initials of Fabio Paratici”.

The FIGC Court of Appeal described the document as “inquietante”, i.e. disturbing. It is said to be an A4 document written by Cherubini as he made notes in preparation for a meeting with Paratici. It is understood to contain the allegation that Paratici had “consistently operated through a system of artificial plusvalenze”, i.e. capital gains.

One example cited was that Juventus valued midfielder Miralem Pjanic at €60million in the swap deal that took him to Barcelona in 2020 when investigators found his remaining book value to be €14.2million. It allowed Juventus to make a €43.7million capital gain on Pjanic, which could be included in their financial results for 2019-20. Investigations considered a number of transfers to have been overvalued and that Juventus had created a misleading financial impression.


Inquietante, indeed — hence the mass resignations from the Juventus board in view of what a club statement called “the centrality and relevance of the pending legal and technical accounting issues”.

Paratici has said there is another side to the story. “Everyone has their own view of course, but as you say, now it’s really one-sided,” he said recently. “There’s someone on the attack and someone else who can only defend and can’t pass the half-way line.”

And so it is business as usual at Tottenham, sifting through the wreckage of another unhappy managerial tenure and trying to build towards a brighter future. Julian Nagelsmann? Luis Enrique? The return of Pochettino? A permanent appointment for Stellini? It is too early to report any clear direction.

The only consistent message from the club this week has been that they believe they are in a position to finish the season strongly under Stellini and that, in the meantime, Paratici will be working with Levy to identify and sound out potential candidates to succeed Conte in the longer term.

For Tottenham, this is the new normal. For the fifth consecutive season, they are ending the campaign under a different coach than the one who started it. Everything — their hopes of Champions League qualification, the identity of their next coach, the future of Harry Kane — seems to be up in the air.

These are the turbulent situations where someone in Paratici’s position is supposed to represent clarity, vision and stability. But how is that possible when so much uncertainty surrounds his own position?
 
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lincspurs

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Seems crazy to me that he’s not been sacked or at the least put on gardening leave until the case is finally resolved.
Apart from anything else what effect does it have on any prospective Manager negotiations as the DOF/Manager interaction has to be vital?
 

Stuart Leathercock

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Honestly all this talk about him being a criminal...if you read the indictment and read into the non Juve hit-piece stories about it...it really doesn't seem to be all that bad to me. The Athletic did a deep dive into it and it just seems like he did something that DoF's do.
Indeed. Nothing will happen from this IMO. Juventus' point deduction will be scrapped.

It is the forthcoming case I am far more worried about where Juventus were allegedly making off book payments to players. If there is any truth in that case then I expect the punishments to Juventus and all involved directors (which will include Paratici) to be very severe.
 

Nick-TopSpursMan

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His player ID especially young talents has been a pleasant surprise and he’s done some decent work behind the scenes in terms of academy recruitment I believe so he does deserve credit for those things.

The problem is he has major flaws which undermine any good scouting work he may do.

1. He favours pragmatic coaches, directly at odds with our clubs history and ethos. His manager ID is terrible.

2. He struggles to sell players.

3. He recruits a lot of players who actually suit a more attack minded coach and/or are young players who need development, yet hires coaches who are defensive and short term, creating a fragmented transfer policy because the young players don’t get enough game time.

4. His squadbuilding isn’t cohesive at all, he leaves key areas short yet overloads other areas.

There are other major issues obviously but these 4 things are key reasons he needs to be shown the door.
 

Albertbarich

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His player ID especially young talents has been a pleasant surprise and he’s done some decent work behind the scenes in terms of academy recruitment I believe so he does deserve credit for those things.

The problem is he has major flaws which undermine any good scouting work he may do.

1. He favours pragmatic coaches, directly at odds with our clubs history and ethos. His manager ID is terrible.

2. He struggles to sell players.

3. He recruits a lot of players who actually suit a more attack minded coach and/or are young players who need development, yet hires coaches who are defensive and short term, creating a fragmented transfer policy because the young players don’t get enough game time.

4. His squadbuilding isn’t cohesive at all, he leaves key areas short yet overloads other areas.

There are other major issues obviously but these 4 things are key reasons he needs to be shown the door.
I agree with all of this but a note on number 2.

In the current market anyone would struggle to sell players. The wages we pay isn't making it easy or maybe possible to sell to 90% of European clubs.
 

Goobers

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If the optics or having our chief executive of football operations embroiled in this type of allegation and investigation was not enough, this ruling will surely mean us cutting ties with him.
we really are having some tome
Of it ...
 

0-Tibsy-0

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See ya later, Fab.

Thanks for the managerial search to end up with Nuno. The memories will be treasured forever.
 
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