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EssexSH27

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Hopefully Cathro being a early thirties non playing AM will be more respected than Joao Sacremento another non playing 30/31 year old was by the team.
 

chrissivad

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Cathro didn't do to well when he was head coach at Hearts.
I'm surprised to see him go back to assistant
 

EssexSH27

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I must have missed this. What were the issues with Joao Sacremento?
Despised by the players according to the athletic..

Quote: Indeed, rival coaches are understood to have tried to exploit his lack of experience, with one claiming Sacramento had little authority over the players, largely shouting instructions to an uninterested group from the touchline.
 
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Cathro didn't do to well when he was head coach at Hearts.
I'm surprised to see him go back to assistant
Often assistants take the step up but realise it's a totally different job and then should step back down. Sadly lots of assistants keep trying and failing. Sometimes you've got to realise that you're best as an assistant.
 

GetSpurredOn

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Six staff left Wolves at the time Nuno did, odd that only three have joined him. Weren’t there stories around the amount of coches others were going to be allowed to bring, Conte for instance.
Rui Pedro Silva (assistant coach)
Julio Figueroa (1st team coach)
Joao Lapa (rehab coach)

These are the three that have not been taken on.
Incidentally Nuno did his coaching badges in Scotland, Cathro was on the same course. He then went to Rio Ave to be Nuno’s assistant, followed him to Valencia. Left there and went to Newcastle under McLaren and stayed under Benitez, tried his hand as a manager at Hearts, but when it didn’t pan out rejoined Nuno at Wolves. Appears a trusted member of staff.
 

bubble07

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The question is how much impact did the coaches not joining nuno have when together at Wolves?
 
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He isn't going to be. He has gone back to his ambassador role, which is disappointing.



Why's it disappointing, though?

He hasn't got any coaching badges, and seemed to be a token gesture in Jose's team, and apparently there's no worse fate than having an ex-player take the big job as his first, so there's no valid reason for him to be involved really.
 

spurs9

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Why's it disappointing, though?

He hasn't got any coaching badges, and seemed to be a token gesture in Jose's team, and apparently there's no worse fate than having an ex-player take the big job as his first, so there's no valid reason for him to be involved really.
Disappointing because as an ex academy player, he can be valuable for advice/guidance for players making the step up to the first team. It can also be a positive to have a coach who has a genuine connection at the club. I also imagine with his awful injury experiences, he can be a positive voice in guiding players back mentally when they have a serious injury and keeping them going.

Disappointing from the perspective of King as 8n April he was talking about "continuing down the path" as a coach.

Coaching badges were something he was planning on doing shortly and I bet he learnt more last season than he will on the course for the first set of badges.

Coaching is more than just taking them out for training routines and teaching techniques and tactics.
 
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Disappointing because as an ex academy player, he can be valuable for advice/guidance for players making the step up to the first team. It can also be a positive to have a coach who has a genuine connection at the club. I also imagine with his awful injury experiences, he can be a positive voice in guiding players back mentally when they have a serious injury and keeping them going.

Disappointing from the perspective of King as 8n April he was talking about "continuing down the path" as a coach.

Coaching badges were something he was planning on doing shortly and I bet he learnt more last season than he will on the course for the first set of badges.

Coaching is more than just taking them out for training routines and teaching techniques and tactics.

Interestingly, the first part describes Mason far more, but the general consensus on here was that they didn't want him involved.

You also don't have to be in the coaching team to mentor or give advice. Danny Rose has proved that.
 

spurs9

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Interestingly, the first part describes Mason far more, but the general consensus on here was that they didn't want him involved.

You also don't have to be in the coaching team to mentor or give advice. Danny Rose has proved that.
Mason will be valuable in preparing them whilst they're in the youth team, however Ledley could have been useful for guidance after they had stepped up to training with the first team.

When you talk about the general consensus not wanting him involved do you mean Mason or King? Who didn't want him involved?

Rose is a great example but he didn't have his own first team commitments to focus on (the fact that he went out of his way to mentor the youngsters in the situation he was in showed a great attitude IMO) and he is no longer here. Who else is going to mentor them, Winks doesn't seem the type and Kane might be too focused and if he does want out but is still here, he might not be the best state of mind to be a positive influence.
 

ILS

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He isn't going to be. He has gone back to his ambassador role, which is disappointing.


I loved Ledley as a player but it was a tick box exercise appointing him in the first place.

Another one of the fall back options Levy carries out when shit isn't going right. He appointed Poyet, Freund and then Ledley to try and get the fans on their side. I'm kinda of surprised he hasn't given Nuno another ex spurs player to work with.
 
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