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punky

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6 wins in 6 for AVB

http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2014...s-russian-record-with-another-win-for-zenit/?

I'm not suggesting we should have kept him long term but I still don't see the point of firing him mid-season.

Nothing has been confirmed AFAIK but there has been plenty of ITK speculating that he lost the dressing room and that we were close to losing our best players entirely if we waited until the end of the season.

On balance of probabilities I think it's true.
 

carpediem991

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Ah the thread where I got about 50 negative ratings.
Can still live with that opinion though :D
 

tototoner

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Kyle Walker says former Tottenham manager Andre Villas-Boas "started crying in front of us" when he was sacked by chairman Daniel Levy in December 2013.

The Manchester City defender, who spent eight years at Spurs between 2009-17, described his former manager as "so, so nice," on the latest episode of the You'll Never Beat Kyle Walker podcast.

Walker says he will "never, ever forget" the moment Villas-Boas addressed his Spurs team following his sacking, revealing that members of the squad also broke down in tears.

"I've got tears running down my eyes... Michael Dawson is welling up," said the 34-year-old. "That's how much he meant to the lads."

Portuguese manager Villas-Boas took charge of Spurs in July 2012 and almost guided the club to the Champions League in his first season - finishing just one point behind fourth-placed Arsenal in the Premier League.

Spurs' squad that year included 2012-13 PFA Player of the Year, Gareth Bale.

The Wales star made a then-world record £85.3m move to Real Madrid in the summer of 2013 and, despite reinvesting in the squad, the team struggled the following season.

After a string of poor results, a chastening 5-0 defeat by Liverpool in December 2013 saw Villas-Boas given his marching orders.

Walker says he regrets the fact the team did not perform well enough to keep their manager in his job.

"Bale was a massive, massive loss," he said. "They signed seven players off the back of the Bale money. There's a lot of changes there and we just never really gelled in time for him [Villas-Boas] to then do well."

Despite the fact that the team "didn't do him justice", Walker says of his former boss, "for 10 or 12 men to be crying because the manager's gone, he's done something well in the dressing room".
 

sidford

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I think it was Danny rose on the spurs podcast who said he was too emotional after wins and loses but they spoke really really highly of him. It actually surprised me how glowing they were about him, I didn't expect that. I had assumed he hadnt clicked too well with the players but that definitely wasn't the case
 

eddiebailey

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Kyle Walker says former Tottenham manager Andre Villas-Boas "started crying in front of us" when he was sacked by chairman Daniel Levy in December 2013.

The Manchester City defender, who spent eight years at Spurs between 2009-17, described his former manager as "so, so nice," on the latest episode of the You'll Never Beat Kyle Walker podcast.

Walker says he will "never, ever forget" the moment Villas-Boas addressed his Spurs team following his sacking, revealing that members of the squad also broke down in tears.

"I've got tears running down my eyes... Michael Dawson is welling up," said the 34-year-old. "That's how much he meant to the lads."

Portuguese manager Villas-Boas took charge of Spurs in July 2012 and almost guided the club to the Champions League in his first season - finishing just one point behind fourth-placed Arsenal in the Premier League.

Spurs' squad that year included 2012-13 PFA Player of the Year, Gareth Bale.

The Wales star made a then-world record £85.3m move to Real Madrid in the summer of 2013 and, despite reinvesting in the squad, the team struggled the following season.

After a string of poor results, a chastening 5-0 defeat by Liverpool in December 2013 saw Villas-Boas given his marching orders.

Walker says he regrets the fact the team did not perform well enough to keep their manager in his job.

"Bale was a massive, massive loss," he said. "They signed seven players off the back of the Bale money. There's a lot of changes there and we just never really gelled in time for him [Villas-Boas] to then do well."

Despite the fact that the team "didn't do him justice", Walker says of his former boss, "for 10 or 12 men to be crying because the manager's gone, he's done something well in the dressing room".
Is it possible for a coach to be too close to the players? I wonder if AVB not having been a professional footballer himself valued that camaraderie with his team in a way that someone who had had that as a player might have put behind them. I don’t get the impression for instance that Ange does see it as part of his role to be emotionally close to his squad.
 

IfiHadTheWings

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Kyle Walker says former Tottenham manager Andre Villas-Boas "started crying in front of us" when he was sacked by chairman Daniel Levy in December 2013.

The Manchester City defender, who spent eight years at Spurs between 2009-17, described his former manager as "so, so nice," on the latest episode of the You'll Never Beat Kyle Walker podcast.

Walker says he will "never, ever forget" the moment Villas-Boas addressed his Spurs team following his sacking, revealing that members of the squad also broke down in tears.

"I've got tears running down my eyes... Michael Dawson is welling up," said the 34-year-old. "That's how much he meant to the lads."

Portuguese manager Villas-Boas took charge of Spurs in July 2012 and almost guided the club to the Champions League in his first season - finishing just one point behind fourth-placed Arsenal in the Premier League.

Spurs' squad that year included 2012-13 PFA Player of the Year, Gareth Bale.

The Wales star made a then-world record £85.3m move to Real Madrid in the summer of 2013 and, despite reinvesting in the squad, the team struggled the following season.

After a string of poor results, a chastening 5-0 defeat by Liverpool in December 2013 saw Villas-Boas given his marching orders.

Walker says he regrets the fact the team did not perform well enough to keep their manager in his job.

"Bale was a massive, massive loss," he said. "They signed seven players off the back of the Bale money. There's a lot of changes there and we just never really gelled in time for him [Villas-Boas] to then do well."

Despite the fact that the team "didn't do him justice", Walker says of his former boss, "for 10 or 12 men to be crying because the manager's gone, he's done something well in the dressing room".
Glad he was sacked after reading that.

12 grown men crying because someone got the tin tack.

the games gone. :cautious:
 

E17yid

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Jan 21, 2013
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Glad he was sacked after reading that.

12 grown men crying because someone got the tin tack.

the games gone. :cautious:
Next they’ll be saying they all hugged each other. Grown men hugging each other. This is what the UK is coming to, we’ve let European culture infest these shores. Thank god for Brexit.
 

Ribble

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Is it possible for a coach to be too close to the players?

They were talking on Totally today (well yesterday) about how Xavi was too close to some of the players, especially as he had been a player alongside a few of them.
 

rossdapep

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Kyle Walker says former Tottenham manager Andre Villas-Boas "started crying in front of us" when he was sacked by chairman Daniel Levy in December 2013.

The Manchester City defender, who spent eight years at Spurs between 2009-17, described his former manager as "so, so nice," on the latest episode of the You'll Never Beat Kyle Walker podcast.

Walker says he will "never, ever forget" the moment Villas-Boas addressed his Spurs team following his sacking, revealing that members of the squad also broke down in tears.

"I've got tears running down my eyes... Michael Dawson is welling up," said the 34-year-old. "That's how much he meant to the lads."

Portuguese manager Villas-Boas took charge of Spurs in July 2012 and almost guided the club to the Champions League in his first season - finishing just one point behind fourth-placed Arsenal in the Premier League.

Spurs' squad that year included 2012-13 PFA Player of the Year, Gareth Bale.

The Wales star made a then-world record £85.3m move to Real Madrid in the summer of 2013 and, despite reinvesting in the squad, the team struggled the following season.

After a string of poor results, a chastening 5-0 defeat by Liverpool in December 2013 saw Villas-Boas given his marching orders.

Walker says he regrets the fact the team did not perform well enough to keep their manager in his job.

"Bale was a massive, massive loss," he said. "They signed seven players off the back of the Bale money. There's a lot of changes there and we just never really gelled in time for him [Villas-Boas] to then do well."

Despite the fact that the team "didn't do him justice", Walker says of his former boss, "for 10 or 12 men to be crying because the manager's gone, he's done something well in the dressing room".
Felt a bit for AVB.

He's clearly an intelligent guy and a good person.

The Chelsea player's comments were horrible to read too.

I think he had 3 big issues.

1. Levy and the board. So close to signing Moutinho who would have been a great signing and the club failed at the ultimate moment. If AVB came in with promises, and those weren't kept in his first summer. I can understand why he was pissed off with the following window.

2. Media. They never took to him. They were on him immediately and any little thing he said was made into something it wasn't. He was pressured into saying he was "The Group One" because journalists needed a moniker for him. They the. used that to beat him with as well as his touchline behavior.

They also took the side of John Terry who had just been found guilty of racial behavior which makes you a little sick.

3. His team needed super functional attackers (like he had at Porto) and the likes of Lamela (who was injured), Soldado, Adebayor etc were either not ready, disruptive or the wrong type of player.

The heavy defeats may have got him the sacked but I believe him and the board had lost trust in each other long before then and the media's hounding probably had him wishing for an exit.
 
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